2016 NRL.com Fantasy pre-thread Part 2

Not much talk about moylan at only 349k could be a good pick up. If the tigers start to loose can anyone see brooks or moses being dropped for littlejohn.

manlybeaver wrote:Not much talk about moylan at only 349k could be a good pick up. If the tigers start to loose can anyone see brooks or moses being dropped for littlejohn.

moylan at 349k is appealing but the prospect of him moving to the halves is putting me off slightly. he could go alright in the halves but it could also take awhile for him to adjust. could easily find his way into my 1st week lineup but at this stage I have other wfbs im prioritizing.

Pick this apart:

Segeyaro, Lichaa
JGraham, JTurbo, NAS, NPR
SBurgess, Hoffman, Tapine, Edwards, Chee-Kam, NPR
DCE, Milford, Hastings, Taylor
JRoberts, Lawrence, Copley, Auva'a
Ferguson, Gordon, Slater, Gutherson, NPR

+11k

manlybeaver wrote:Not much talk about moylan at only 349k could be a good pick up. If the tigers start to loose can anyone see brooks or moses being dropped for littlejohn.

Moylan's just one of those blokes whose brilliance doesn't translate as well to Fantasy points.

Is that Moga with a dirty Sanchez in your avatar?

jstands, you're in L1 again mate.

rhinoceroo wrote:Pick this apart:

Segeyaro, Lichaa
JGraham, JTurbo, NAS, NPR
SBurgess, Hoffman, Tapine, Edwards, Chee-Kam, NPR
DCE, Milford, Hastings, Taylor
JRoberts, Lawrence, Copley, Auva'a
Ferguson, Gordon, Slater, Gutherson, NPR

+11k

hookers- seggy is great and potentially underpriced, will be a common hooker selection. lichaa is solid. but without much of an attacking game there isn't really any reason to see his average rise. would be better finding some cash and getting someone like peats who possibly has more points in him as well as a better bye schedule

props- graham will be common in a large amount of sides you see posted here and with good reason. the manly pack looks good for fantasy value this year and jturbo is at the head of that so nice pick. NAS good represent some nice value and could see a large majority of points on the back of stats like tackle busts but getting the minutes to make him worthwhile may be the only issue.

2nd row-once again Surgess will be a common sight. Ryan Hoffman started last year very strong but faded once the tries dried up. he no longer possess' the running ability he used to have and doesn't put up the tackle numbers to be worthwhile. played huge minutes last year so reduced interchange won't really affect anything so it would be better to look at a better option. Tapine and Edwards are polarizing with some thinking they will get the minutes to be worthwhile while others don't. Until we get some trial news and TLT they are as good options as any. If MCK finally gets game time he should be a solid cash cow

Halves- DCE should be the go to gun to start the season with. a little bit underpriced with many expecting a huge year without Foran to take away some playmaking duties. Hastings and taylor are standard at this point so no need to comment there. I'm not a fan of halves that don't get a bulk of points from kicking duties so I personally wouldn't go for Milford. He should score pretty well for the most part when the Broncos are playing well but when they have to grind out some 12-10 wins you may wish you had have gone for more of an underpriced player like Mullen or paid for the more consistent scoring of a proven fantasy gun.

Centres- I would look at gaining some cash for other positions by downgrading here. Spending big money on centres can often be a risk. Unless you are going for reliable guns like Inglis or Dugan it can be a problem. Roberts may take a bit of time to adjust to the new setup and system, as well as not being the go to when you need something to happen as the Broncos have other guys in the backline capable of sparking an attack. The other 3 are solid picks. Lewis Brown could be a decent downgrade option for Roberts, as good a NPR and starting Copley and this would free up a lot of cash.

WFBs- Very solid options with Slater and potentially Gordon as PODs. You'll likely want to sell Slater round origin but as long as you can handle a 50 one week then a 25 he has a great early season schedule and good be in for a nice rise in price.

Who is 'NAS'? Thanks in advance

Speedball Deluxe wrote:Who is 'NAS'? Thanks in advance

Nelson Asofa-Solomona

Speedball Deluxe wrote:Who is 'NAS'? Thanks in advance

Asofa-Solomona from Storm. Huge beast of a man but he's only a 19-20 year old.

manlybeaver wrote:Not much talk about moylan at only 349k could be a good pick up. If the tigers start to loose can anyone see brooks or moses being dropped for littlejohn.

If anything it will be Brooks to make way. Word is he is not tracking as well as hoped for in some aspects.
Might be Rankin over littlejohn that is next in line though.

Will find out next in line is in rd1 as Brooks is out suspended.

Big Kev wrote:

Ferguson should be a given at #1.
Mansour is interesting. Monster 2014, but coming off recurring injuries, worst possible byes of he doesn't crack origin & no Jamal inside him sucking up defenders. I think he's a pass

Even in 2014 Mansour missed quite a few to injury.
Tempting, but I want to see him string some games together first.

He's not cheap enough for me to want to gamble on.

Beast From The Big East wrote:

hookers- seggy is great and potentially underpriced, will be a common hooker selection. lichaa is solid. but without much of an attacking game there isn't really any reason to see his average rise. would be better finding some cash and getting someone like peats who possibly has more points in him as well as a better bye schedule

props- graham will be common in a large amount of sides you see posted here and with good reason. the manly pack looks good for fantasy value this year and jturbo is at the head of that so nice pick. NAS good represent some nice value and could see a large majority of points on the back of stats like tackle busts but getting the minutes to make him worthwhile may be the only issue.

2nd row-once again Surgess will be a common sight. Ryan Hoffman started last year very strong but faded once the tries dried up. he no longer possess' the running ability he used to have and doesn't put up the tackle numbers to be worthwhile. played huge minutes last year so reduced interchange won't really affect anything so it would be better to look at a better option. Tapine and Edwards are polarizing with some thinking they will get the minutes to be worthwhile while others don't. Until we get some trial news and TLT they are as good options as any. If MCK finally gets game time he should be a solid cash cow

Halves- DCE should be the go to gun to start the season with. a little bit underpriced with many expecting a huge year without Foran to take away some playmaking duties. Hastings and taylor are standard at this point so no need to comment there. I'm not a fan of halves that don't get a bulk of points from kicking duties so I personally wouldn't go for Milford. He should score pretty well for the most part when the Broncos are playing well but when they have to grind out some 12-10 wins you may wish you had have gone for more of an underpriced player like Mullen or paid for the more consistent scoring of a proven fantasy gun.

Centres- I would look at gaining some cash for other positions by downgrading here. Spending big money on centres can often be a risk. Unless you are going for reliable guns like Inglis or Dugan it can be a problem. Roberts may take a bit of time to adjust to the new setup and system, as well as not being the go to when you need something to happen as the Broncos have other guys in the backline capable of sparking an attack. The other 3 are solid picks. Lewis Brown could be a decent downgrade option for Roberts, as good a NPR and starting Copley and this would free up a lot of cash.

WFBs- Very solid options with Slater and potentially Gordon as PODs. You'll likely want to sell Slater round origin but as long as you can handle a 50 one week then a 25 he has a great early season schedule and good be in for a nice rise in price.

Thanks for that. The thinking for Hoffman was that he's priced at 33 points and I do see him as potentially a 40+ point player, so there could be some value. The common options around his price seem to be Whitehead and Rochow. Whitehead could be a go after he's settled but I don't see him as being essential over the first month or two, while I have no idea of Rochow's security once Sims is back. Hoffman's at least guaranteed a start when he's fit. Obviously I could be looking at different players if I don't start with Roberts in the centre.

Lichaa I was kind of hoping could add some attacking stats to his game. The aim would be to upgrade him to Smith when the time's right, but again could save money on centres (Lafai? Hurrell?) and just lock Sege/Smith to start and hopefully finish the season.

manlybeaver wrote:Not much talk about moylan at only 349k could be a good pick up. If the tigers start to loose can anyone see brooks or moses being dropped for littlejohn.

Oh wait. is it Arana Taumata? Doing my head in!

SI wrote:

Moylan's just one of those blokes whose brilliance doesn't translate as well to Fantasy points.

Is that Moga with a dirty Sanchez in your avatar?

Nah its Fabrício Werdum (ufc heavyweight champ) doing his troll face.

manlybeaver wrote:

SI wrote:

Moylan's just one of those blokes whose brilliance doesn't translate as well to Fantasy points.

Is that Moga with a dirty Sanchez in your avatar?

Nah its Fabrício Werdum (ufc heavyweight champ) doing his troll face.

So I was close...

rhinoceroo wrote:

Thanks for that. The thinking for Hoffman was that he's priced at 33 points and I do see him as potentially a 40+ point player, so there could be some value. The common options around his price seem to be Whitehead and Rochow. Whitehead could be a go after he's settled but I don't see him as being essential over the first month or two, while I have no idea of Rochow's security once Sims is back. Hoffman's at least guaranteed a start when he's fit. Obviously I could be looking at different players if I don't start with Roberts in the centre.

Lichaa I was kind of hoping could add some attacking stats to his game. The aim would be to upgrade him to Smith when the time's right, but again could save money on centres (Lafai? Hurrell?) and just lock Sege/Smith to start and hopefully finish the season.

Hoffman has always been around that scoring avg mate, he always evens out through the year after a few massive games Mannering, Bodene do most of the tackling work, if you are happy enough with the make up of your back row/props because smith and seggy cost a bomb to start the season so the fornt row/back row positions are likely to suffer then locking in seggy and smith isn't a bad idea! normally i will try and find some value in the second hooking spot in order to upgrade to smith/another gun hooker with the upgrade cash and by cashing in a cow. There are a few very tasty options in the second row that are popping up all the time in Whitehead, Rochow, Tapine, Carter, Edwards etc if you gambled and they all fired up you already have your hooking combo set and you can thenupgrade the guys mentioned into the elite second row guns

So to preface this, I have been getting cold feet on Lewis Brown and Chris Lawrence so I dug into them a little.

Lewis Brown -

0.58 PPM while starting Second Row. This means if he gets 60 minutes he would average 35 points a game. (Which is where he is currently priced at.) With that said if he gets 80 minutes he would average 46 points a game.

I am personally not sure he will get the minutes to make him a worthy pick.

(Random guess at Manly Pack)
J. Trbojevic - N. Myles
L. Brown - M. Taupau - J. Buhrer

M. Parcell - L. Burgess - D. Lussick - T. Symonds/J. Starling/F. Mateo/B. Leary/B. Lawrence (Potentially)

Could also see Myles moving into the 2RF at stages during the game.

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Chris Lawrence -

0.53 PPM while starting in the Second Row (Discounting the game he was injured in.) That is uninspiring, but if you remove the games he scored tries (Because he wont do that week in, week out.) he drops to a 0.46 PPM. Which isn't bad if he gets 80 minutes. However if he gets 60 minutes. Which is solid, he would only score 27 Points a game. That would be best case scenario, assuming he scores tries at a reasonable rate and gets 80 minutes he would average 42 points.

(Random guess at Tigers pack)
A. Woods - T. Grant
C. Sironen, C. Lawrence, J. Edwards

K. Lovett, D. Halatau, S. Sue, A. Seumanufagai/J. Buchanan/M. Chee-Kam/M. Cherrington

Add to the fact he does have injury concerns surrounding him.. Yeah not necessarily as great when first looked at.

Random wrote:So to preface this, I have been getting cold feet on Lewis Brown and Chris Lawrence so I dug into them a little.

Lewis Brown -

0.58 PPM while starting Second Row. This means if he gets 60 minutes he would average 35 points a game. (Which is where he is currently priced at.) With that said if he gets 80 minutes he would average 46 points a game.

I am personally not sure he will get the minutes to make him a worthy pick.

(Random guess at Manly Pack)
J. Trbojevic - N. Myles
L. Brown - M. Taupau - J. Buhrer

M. Parcell - L. Burgess - D. Lussick - T. Symonds/J. Starling/F. Mateo/B. Leary/B. Lawrence (Potentially)

Could also see Myles moving into the 2RF at stages during the game.

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Chris Lawrence -

0.53 PPM while starting in the Second Row (Discounting the game he was injured in.) That is uninspiring, but if you remove the games he scored tries (Because he wont do that week in, week out.) he drops to a 0.46 PPM. Which isn't bad if he gets 80 minutes. However if he gets 60 minutes. Which is solid, he would only score 27 Points a game. That would be best case scenario, assuming he scores tries at a reasonable rate and gets 80 minutes he would average 42 points.

(Random guess at Tigers pack)
A. Woods - T. Grant
C. Sironen, C. Lawrence, J. Edwards

K. Lovett, D. Halatau, S. Sue, A. Seumanufagai/J. Buchanan/M. Chee-Kam/M. Cherrington

Add to the fact he does have injury concerns surrounding him.. Yeah not necessarily as great when first looked at.

Good work mate

I like Lafai as almost a lock for me, i know i am relying on him returning to 2014 form but the dragons pack should get some go forward and he is dangerous ball carrier so should see plenty of action at $50,000 cheaper than Lawrence and $70,000 cheaper than Brown i feel i can get some upgrades elsewhere with the spare change

Welshy87 wrote:

Good work mate

I like Lafai as almost a lock for me, i know i am relying on him returning to 2014 form but the dragons pack should get some go forward and he is dangerous ball carrier so should see plenty of action at $50,000 cheaper than Lawrence and $70,000 cheaper than Brown i feel i can get some upgrades elsewhere with the spare change

Benji also had the second highest Try Assists last year which would hopefully improve Lafai's strike rate.

Random wrote:

Benji also had the second highest Try Assists last year which would hopefully improve Lafai's strike rate.

Sure Lafai was injured last year as well which may of affected him, missed a few games didn't he?