HomeWho else is down to 16 like me and has to play Hammer in that 16?
If Cleary is out I’ll be down to 15.
If Cleary is out I’ll be down to 15.
NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 86 - Fantasy is a 15 man game
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by Aardvark Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:37 am
filthridden wrote:I've set up a looping system so elaborate and unnecessary that I'm not even sure Ice would understand it.
I did that last week and then Wiliame played (apparently)
Happens pretty much every time but I never learn....only have 17 but have set up a loop to be able to react if Wiliame does play (most pointless loop ever - HTF vs Wiliame)
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by Rabbits21 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:39 am
anyone know if they’ve decided yet how many will be allowed into McDonald Jones Stadium in Newcastle week 1 with it looking like the Knights host a home semi against Souths? I’m thinking of making the trip up.
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by StormTrooper96 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:44 am
Rabbits21 wrote:anyone know if they’ve decided yet how many will be allowed into McDonald Jones Stadium in Newcastle week 1 with it looking like the Knights host a home semi against Souths? I’m thinking of making the trip up.
Didn't they say they will have 50% capacity for finals?
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by mattnz Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:44 am
The other middles, tevaga and Harris play big minutes. Don’t see his increasing at all.mrbrownstone wrote:Bit slow here, so random question looking ahead to next year: do we think AFB plays more minutes under a new coach?
With his PPM a bump from ~50 minutes to ~60 sees him go from borderline to top tier FRF gun.
They translate pretty well to jurbo - huge minute middle and
taupau - the guy we watch the minutes of every week
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by Camo123 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:44 am
Rabbits21 wrote:Who else is down to 16 like me and has to play Hammer in that 16?
If Cleary is out I’ll be down to 15.
16 is good number
I have 14
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by wolfking Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:46 am
Rabbits21 wrote:Who else is down to 16 like me and has to play Hammer in that 16?
If Cleary is out I’ll be down to 15.
There hasn't been any indication Cleary won't play has there?
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by wolfking Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:47 am
I need confirmation. Cleary to Haas is a stupid, novice like trade isn't it?
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by Camo123 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:48 am
mattnz wrote:
The other middles, tevaga and Harris play big minutes. Don’t see his increasing at all.
They translate pretty well to jurbo - huge minute middle and
taupau - the guy we watch the minutes of every week
Paseka is the one that you get in 2021 to benefit from AFB leaving
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by Rabbits21 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:52 am
I think Newcastle hadn’t decided that yet though like the Raiders still had to decide as well and get government approval etc....StormTrooper96 wrote:
Didn't they say they will have 50% capacity for finals?
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by Rabbits21 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:53 am
I’m wondering if he just plays 30mins and is pulled off........?wolfking wrote:
There hasn't been any indication Cleary won't play has there?
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by Rabbits21 Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:55 am
Captain Haas for me been locked and loaded since Tuesday.
My team this week:
McInnes
Haas MoFo
Lucy Matterson Murray
Cleary Pearce
Peachey
Teddy Ponga Hammer
Carrigan Taupau Sironen Koloamatangi
Randall
Red dots: S. Crichton Hunt Edwards Niu
My team this week:
McInnes
Haas MoFo
Lucy Matterson Murray
Cleary Pearce
Peachey
Teddy Ponga Hammer
Carrigan Taupau Sironen Koloamatangi
Randall
Red dots: S. Crichton Hunt Edwards Niu
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by mrbrownstone Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:57 am
wolfking wrote:I need confirmation. Cleary to Haas is a stupid, novice like trade isn't it?
Most likely. It's either that or genius.
I still think there's just as much chance Burton comes on to rest Koro when the Panthers are up 30-6 and Cleary has 40 points in goals and try assists alone.
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by filthridden Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:05 am
Rabbits21 wrote:
I’m wondering if he just plays 30mins and is pulled off........?
Lucky Nathan.
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by filthridden Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:11 am
Friend
Carrigan, Fotuaika
McInnes, Tevaga, RFM
Cleary, Luai
Peachey, Averillo
Tedesco, Ponga, RTS
Grant, Moses, Crichton, Hunt
McGuire, Sironen, Randall, HTF
I will most likely trade either RTS or Hunt depending on how my 18-21 go
Carrigan, Fotuaika
McInnes, Tevaga, RFM
Cleary, Luai
Peachey, Averillo
Tedesco, Ponga, RTS
Grant, Moses, Crichton, Hunt
McGuire, Sironen, Randall, HTF
I will most likely trade either RTS or Hunt depending on how my 18-21 go
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by StormTrooper96 Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:23 am
Rabbits21 wrote:
I’m wondering if he just plays 30mins and is pulled off........?
Wouldn't be a bad end to the night
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by Aardvark Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:24 am
filthridden wrote:Friend
Carrigan, Fotuaika
McInnes, Tevaga, RFM
Cleary, Luai
Peachey, Averillo
Tedesco, Ponga, RTS
Grant, Moses, Crichton, Hunt
McGuire, Sironen, Randall, HTF
I will most likely trade either RTS or Hunt depending on how my 18-21 go
Did you pick that team specifically to be the undisputed King of round 20? Looks like you should be primed for a rankings boost.
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by Aardvark Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:25 am
StormTrooper96 wrote:
Wouldn't be a bad end to the night
30 minutes in...energy levels could be on the wane for the remaining 50
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by filthridden Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am
Aardvark wrote:
Did you pick that team specifically to be the undisputed King of round 20? Looks like you should be primed for a rankings boost.
haha I thought that last round and still managed to drop ranks.
No Haas is not going to help either. Traded him for McInnes who I captained and scored me 49 points
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 86 - Fantasy is a 15 man game
by easytiger Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:31 am
mrbrownstone wrote:Bit slow here, so random question looking ahead to next year: do we think AFB plays more minutes under a new coach?
With his PPM a bump from ~50 minutes to ~60 sees him go from borderline to top tier FRF gun.
MS touched on this, but I thought I'd put up a bit of analysis that the great Steve Nicholls put together a few years back (which is as relevant now as then).
- How does increased minutes impact PPM:
- So how does increased minutes impact PPM?
Increased minutes can lead to increased fatigue which in turn leads to a reduction in efficiency and a decrease in PPM.
David Klemmer’s scores are a good example of this:
Each of the dots represent a game and show the number of minutes Klemmer played and the PPM he scored at.
The line through the middle represents the overall decline in PPM Klemmer has as his minutes get greater.
The steeper the line the more drastic a change in PPM, while a flatter line represents a player who might not see much change in PPM at all.
Based on the line Klemmer could be expected to have 1 PPM in 30 minutes which would equal 30 fantasy points and about a .8 PPM in 60 minutes which would represent 48 fantasy points.
However, the data points aren’t clustered around the trend line which does impact on how much confidence you can place in the trend line’s accuracy.
Part of the reason for this is because in Klemmer’s games of between 20 and 40 minutes he only had three games with a PPM above the trend line, while a lot of his 40 to 60 minute games are above the trend line. That’s really odd and it could mean the trend line projects Klemmer’s PPM too low.
If I was asked to guess I’d go with a number slightly higher than the trend line.
Regardless it demonstrates how PPM can decline in reduced minutes.
The key here, is generally if you do chart a players PPM vs minutes then you typically see a decline in PPM with extra minutes (largely fatigue/energy conservation).
If a player has a scoring rate of 1PPM for 50 minutes, but that drops a little to say 0.9 for 60 minutes, the scoring shift is really only 4 points (50->54), much less than the 10 you might expect if they were able to maintain that PPM.
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