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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:02 am

    superbucks wrote:

    This is a well balanced team, I think you can be pretty happy with all the picks tbh.

    Liicha - is he fully priced, or underpriced somewhat when Mbye was pitching in?
    Woods - He is very worthy selection and I think is underpriced - he's a ~55ish premium at just under 50ppg price. Well at least in the past he's performed at a very high level.
    Ah Mau - I remember him picking it up in over the course of the season in 2015. Was it tog related? A lot of potential in the dragons pack this year. At his price you'd probably be hoping he averages over 45?
    SST - What are you expecting from him this year? Just general improvement? Good player.
    Rochow - I picked him in my team coz I couldn't afford Cartwright (rate Carty the better fantasy prospect). Rochow is a good player, but will he ever be good in fantasy? I am just vaguely remembering 2014 here, but he never struck me as an offensive powerhouse. He's a good defender and will get tackles. I remember him scoring much better in sportsbet than fantasy, which indicates to me that attack and/or miss tackles were a problem. He is value regardless.
    JReynolds - Should he get a boost with no Hoddo?

    played around a tad mate because i think i can get more out of my team with 2 rookie priced CTRS was in the middle or reposting my original team before i added Fergo in the CTR but will answer the questions as most are still in there and re post my team

    Lichaa avg is around the 54 mark when he plays 80, few injury affected games and some rest at the start of the season as he adjusted to big minutes, almost zero attacking stats so plenty of room for improvement in that department after a year as a full time starter if he doesn't 54 is a good return

    Ah mau averaged 50 minutes and 50 points in the last 10 rounds of 2015, again nearly all base stats 1 LB all season, no tries potential there to really stamp his mark without Merrin

    No Cordner for a big stretch, I'm backing SST to pick up some minutes he averages 50+ points when he plays over 50+ minutes, even if he doesn't go that big i figure i don't lose any cash get a few 40's but save a trade over origin where the origin roosters like Guerra miss 5 games

    Rochow averaged 34 in 2014 and 40 albeit in only 5 games last year, still pretty young, no Beau Scott and an aging Jeremy Smith, im back Rochow to go in the 40s and only priced at 30, if he only matches 2014 he still makes slow $$ and i burn a trade to shift him

    J Rey averages 45 when playing 80 in the halves with Mbye (thanks Milch) might not go that high but should get bulk KM and a leadership role
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:14 am

    Changed my thinking in the halves to something i noted in the fantasy thread and came up with this, also have a potential return to form POD in the WFB

    Smith, Lichaa
    Woods, Burgess, Ah Mau, Welch
    Merrin, Taukeiaho, Cartwright, Rochow, Bhana, Whitchurch
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Auva'a Gutherson, Henry, MCK
    Mansour, Gordon, Nightingale, Mata'utai, T. Phillips

    Holmes would likely replace Nightingale if named at FB and want to see Mann in the trials at FB
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:18 am

    Welshy wrote:Changed my thinking in the halves to something i noted in the fantasy thread and came up with this, also have a potential return to form POD in the WFB

    Smith, Lichaa
    Woods, Burgess, Ah Mau, Welch
    Merrin, Taukeiaho, Cartwright, Rochow, Bhana, Whitchurch
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Auva'a Gutherson, Henry, MCK
    Mansour, Gordon, Nightingale, Mata'utai, T. Phillips

    Holmes would likely replace Nightingale if named at FB and want to see Mann in the trials at FB
    Whats the reasoning behind the Nightingale pick mate?
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:23 am

    Krump wrote:
    Whats the reasoning behind the Nightingale pick mate?

    looking for a POD because i think Mansour fires and Gordon will hopefully be solid, Nightingale averaged 42 in 2014, he only scored 5 tries the whole of last year so i expect more in that regard, with Mann new at FB if named could potentially be back there more helping him with hit ups, didn't realise he was under $300k either
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:32 am

    Welshy wrote:

    looking for a POD because i think Mansour fires and Gordon will hopefully be solid, Nightingale averaged 42 in 2014, he only scored 5 tries the whole of last year so i expect more in that regard, with Mann new at FB if named could potentially be back there more helping him with hit ups, didn't realise he was under $300k either
    So you think he'll get less hitups but more points? You've lost me Welshy Shocked
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:34 am

    Krump wrote:
    So you think he'll get less hitups but more points? You've lost me Welshy Shocked
    less hit ups? i said he could be potentially back there more helping Mann out lol
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:53 am

    Welshy wrote:
    less hit ups? i said he could be potentially back there more helping Mann out lol
    Right you are, I read it as Mann helping him. Carry on nothing to see here Very Happy
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:57 am

    Krump wrote:
    Right you are, I read it as Mann helping him. Carry on nothing to see here Very Happy

    lol!

    surely he scores more than 5 tries the bugger! Would probably switch him with Holmes if he gets the FB gig though
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    Post by SoylentGreen Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:07 am

    Welshy (or anyone else for that matter) - care to put some predicted points against my team? I'm going with a very mid-range heavy lineup and while I've only got one (less than ideal) captain option, I'm quite happy overall.

    Lichaa, Parcell
    Vaughn, Douglas, Ah Mau(r), Lawrence(r)
    JDB, Taupau, SST, Cartwright(r), Rochow(r), CWN
    DCE(C), Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubs, Avua'a, Gutherson, MCK
    Fergo, Mansour, Gordon, Phillips, Eden

    Lawrence, Parcell, Taylor all could be the 4th reserve depending on team makeup
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:Welshy (or anyone else for that matter) - care to put some predicted points against my team? I'm going with a very mid-range heavy lineup and while I've only got one (less than ideal) captain option, I'm quite happy overall.

    Lichaa, Parcell
    Vaughn, Douglas, Ah Mau(r), Lawrence(r)
    JDB, Taupau, SST, Cartwright(r), Rochow(r)
    DCE(C), Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubs, Avua'a, Gutherson, MCK
    Fergo, Mansour, Gordon, Phillips, Eden

    Lichaa 55, Parcell
    Vaughn 40-48, Douglas 42-48 Ah Mau 40-50 (r), Lawrence 30(r)
    JDB 50-55, Taupau 50-55, SST 40-50, Cartwright 40-55(r), Rochow 40-45(r)
    DCE(C) 55-62, Hastings 30-40, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubs 25-45, Avua'a 25, Gutherson, MCK
    Fergo 35-40, Mansour 40, Gordon 40, Phillips, Eden

    Something like this I have mate

    752-845. middling out to 799

    probably highest i have seen mate BUT requires alot more of the mid rangers hitting their higher predictions which is unlikely
    Cant see much room for Douglas but he could without Myles i suppose if thats your thinking? Same with Vaughan without Shillo
    Aubbs is too risky for me but playing big minutes in the 2nd row he is value, but i don't think you can apply normal logic to Aubbs geek

    Would never advise a half being an everyday captain but this year DCE might be the exception

    I like the Taupau pick but Manly pack is so up in the air its tough to predict what he gets, playing off DCE he could explode
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    Post by Pain Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:47 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Didn't know our 4 ressies so guessed at Barba and Taylor

    Smith 124 Lichaa 55
    Graham 52 Fifita 61 Sue 35-45 Welch-Nicol
    Surgess 55-62 Cartwright 40-55 Tapine 30-40 Chee-Kham Henry Bhana
    DCE 55-62 Hastings 30-40 Barba 20-30 Taylor 25-30
    Auva'a 25 CLawrence 35 Copley LittleJohn
    Mansour 40 Gordon 40 Ferguson 40 Gutherson Mitchell 

    757-836 middling out to 797. nice

    Cheers Welshy!
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    Post by Warriors Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:58 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:Welshy (or anyone else for that matter) - care to put some predicted points against my team? I'm going with a very mid-range heavy lineup and while I've only got one (less than ideal) captain option, I'm quite happy overall.

    Lichaa, Parcell
    Vaughn, Douglas, Ah Mau(r), Lawrence(r)
    JDB, Taupau, SST, Cartwright(r), Rochow(r), CWN
    DCE(C), Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubs, Avua'a, Gutherson, MCK
    Fergo, Mansour, Gordon, Phillips, Eden

    Lawrence, Parcell, Taylor all could be the 4th reserve depending on team makeup

    Very similar lineup to mine except I have Smith, Merrin, Croker for your Lichaa, Taupau, Fergo and one other.
    Hoping Barba picks up the fullback gig and is added as a Fullback after teamlists come out. Reckon he's in for a good year.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:56 am

    Hi guys first time rookie here. Have been researching heavily the last week and getting no work done:) My first draft:

    Smith Granville
    Graham woods JDB NPR
    Surgess LAM Rochow Pauli Benry NPR
    DCE JRey hasting taylor
    copley auva'a MCK NPR
    Gordon Mansour Slater Gutherson NPR

    Just weighing in on the Granville debate (as a cowboys supporter), Kostjasyn isn't a hookers asshole, Greeny just puts him in there to tackle whilst Granville is off. Granvilles minutes were increasing through the year and I can see kostjasyn being shuffled through the backrow as well as hooker. So 60-65min for mine for Granville. If you look at the eleven rounds where Jake played 56 min or more (for an average of 65min) he averaged 50.5 points. The question for you more experienced guys please is, is this a good enough increase to make it worthwhile?? Thanks for any comments (please, rip it apart)
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    Post by SoylentGreen Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:15 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Lichaa 55, Parcell
    Vaughn 40-48, Douglas 42-48 Ah Mau 40-50 (r), Lawrence 30(r)
    JDB 50-55, Taupau 50-55, SST 40-50, Cartwright 40-55(r), Rochow 40-45(r)
    DCE(C) 55-62, Hastings 30-40, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubs 25-45, Avua'a 25, Gutherson, MCK
    Fergo 35-40, Mansour 40, Gordon 40, Phillips, Eden

    Something like this I have mate

    752-845. middling out to 799

    probably highest i have seen mate BUT requires alot more of the mid rangers hitting their higher predictions which is unlikely
    Cant see much room for Douglas but he could without Myles i suppose if thats your thinking? Same with Vaughan without Shillo
    Aubbs is too risky for me but playing big minutes in the 2nd row he is value, but i don't think you can apply normal logic to Aubbs geek

    Would never advise a half being an everyday captain but this year DCE might be the exception

    I like the Taupau pick but Manly pack is so up in the air its tough to predict what he gets, playing off DCE he could explode

    Cheers Welshy - it's much harder to get a fix on the mid-range potential scores than the tried and true Smiths, Parkers, Fensoms etc.

    DCE is a worry as my only captain option - I'm really just hoping that he doesn't have a poor score in the first 5-6 weeks, by which time I'm hoping to upgrade one of the forwards to another more reliable captain choice.

    Taupau running off DCE is exactly my reasoning for picking him

    Aubbs is Aubbs, but the similar option pricewise that I can see is Chris Lawrence, and he's as much of an enigma in my view.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:56 pm

    mulvy wrote:Hi guys first time rookie here. Have been researching heavily the last week and getting no work done:) My first draft:

    Smith Granville
    Graham woods JDB NPR
    Surgess LAM Rochow Pauli Benry NPR
    DCE JRey hasting taylor
    copley auva'a MCK NPR
    Gordon Mansour Slater Gutherson NPR

    Just weighing in on the Granville debate (as a cowboys supporter), Kostjasyn isn't a hookers asshole, Greeny just puts him in there to tackle whilst Granville is off. Granvilles minutes were increasing through the year and I can see kostjasyn being shuffled through the backrow as well as hooker. So 60-65min for mine for Granville. If you look at the eleven rounds where Jake played 56 min or more (for an average of 65min) he averaged 50.5 points. The question for you more experienced guys please is, is this a good enough increase to make it worthwhile?? Thanks for any comments (please, rip it apart)

    Welcome mate. I like your team. I'm a fan of Granville as well but the argument goes that an 80 minute back up to Smith is the way to go. But the way I see it the 100k you save going for Granville can be better distributed elsewhere. i.e. the selection of J. Reynolds.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:15 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    Welcome mate. I like your team. I'm a fan of Granville as well but the argument goes that an 80 minute back up to Smith is the way to go. But the way I see it the 100k you save going for Granville can be better distributed elsewhere. i.e. the selection of J. Reynolds.

    Thanks for the reply. But why is the conventional wisdom that you need an 80min back up hooker - is it in case of injury? or points on the bench? (I would have thought 50 points on the bench is solid)
    Yeah I like JRey there but if I feel absolutely compelled to get JNik (because of other limited cash cows and maybe Pearce is out six weeks+) then an NPR becomes Cartwright and Woods becomes McGuire to fit him in.
    The big question mark is what to do with Parcell with Buher and Hodges out and the Korisau arrest (and still nursing and injury)?
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:27 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    Welcome mate. I like your team. I'm a fan of Granville as well but the argument goes that an 80 minute back up to Smith is the way to go. But the way I see it the 100k you save going for Granville can be better distributed elsewhere. i.e. the selection of J. Reynolds
    The minutes aren't relevant at all, it's how many points the others can score and what their upside is. I just don't see Granville doing much better then last year. Peats has similar scores and better byes, Parcell will score above his price and Lichaa could see increased attacking stats. I'm not saying that they will definitely be better than Granville but I think they offer more.
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    Post by Goondalf Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:37 pm

    Anyone have any advice on my latest draft
    Smith Parcell
    Fifita AhMau Packer/Lawrence (Welch)
    Surgess Cartwright Graham Rochow (Bhana Chrichton)
    DCE Notman Hastings (Taylor)
    Kata Auvaa (Henry MCK)
    Slater Gordon Mansour (Gutherson Eden)
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    Post by Krump Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:40 pm

    Goondalf wrote:Anyone have any advice on my latest draft
    Smith Parcell
    Fifita AhMau Packer/Lawrence (Welch)
    Surgess Cartwright Graham Rochow (Bhana Chrichton)
    DCE Notman Hastings (Taylor)
    Kata Auvaa (Henry MCK)
    Slater Gordon Mansour (Gutherson Eden)
    First team I've seen Norman in,what are your expectations there? I'm not sold on Packer getting enough minutes but other than that it's one of the strongest drafts I've seen yet.
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    Post by Goondalf Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:54 pm

    Krump wrote:
    First team I've seen Norman in,what are your expectations there? I'm not sold on Packer getting enough minutes but other than that it's one of the strongest drafts I've seen yet.

    Hoping he picks up an increase in KMs and generally improve with Foran and Gordon there

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