If nines form is relevant he's in for a big year.Goondalf wrote:
Hoping he picks up an increase in KMs and generally improve with Foran and Gordon there
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The minutes aren't relevant at all, it's how many points the others can score and what their upside is. I just don't see Granville doing much better then last year. Peats has similar scores and better byes, Parcell will score above his price and Lichaa could see increased attacking stats. I'm not saying that they will definitely be better than Granville but I think they offer more.
I guess I just like how the rest of my team looks with Granville there and I do see upside in him. He is $100k cheaper than Peats and I don't think Peats will score that much more than Jake. Agree better byes though. If we can get some clear indication that Parcell is going to start and get decent minutes then my team becomes:
Smith Parcell
Graham Woods JDB NPR
Surgess LAM Rochow Cartwright Pauli Benry
DCE JRey hastings taylor
Copley Auva'a MCK NPR
Gordon Mansour Slater Gutherson NPR
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mulvy wrote:Hi guys first time rookie here. Have been researching heavily the last week and getting no work done:) My first draft:
Smith Granville
Graham woods JDB NPR
Surgess LAM Rochow Pauli Benry NPR
DCE JRey hasting taylor
copley auva'a MCK NPR
Gordon Mansour Slater Gutherson NPR
Just weighing in on the Granville debate (as a cowboys supporter), Kostjasyn isn't a hookers asshole, Greeny just puts him in there to tackle whilst Granville is off. Granvilles minutes were increasing through the year and I can see kostjasyn being shuffled through the backrow as well as hooker. So 60-65min for mine for Granville. If you look at the eleven rounds where Jake played 56 min or more (for an average of 65min) he averaged 50.5 points. The question for you more experienced guys please is, is this a good enough increase to make it worthwhile?? Thanks for any comments (please, rip it apart)
How much of a rise is good enough depends on a few things.
For an NPR who is just there to make cash and isn't part of your playing 17, then you want to make over $100k (15+ points above average)
For one of your starting team who is already averaging over 45, then its not as important that they make massive increases. Sometimes just maintaining last years average is a good result. Not many players priced that high can increase their average by 10 points a game, so any that you can grab are good.
But, when you think about your final 17, you really want all your scoring forwards and backs to be averaging 50 points a game or higher. If you can get one from the start for under $400k then that is a big win.
Krump mentioned that Peats and Granville put up similar scores. If you expect that to be the case then Granville is a no-brainer as he is $100k cheaper.
So the question is really - how likely is it that Granville averages 50+. Because if he does you almost certainly want him.
If you look at finals games and not just the regular season, Granville was still doing a lot of workload sharing, and I would expect that to continue, at least to start the season.
AS for the rest if your team - its all a balancing act. if you are happy that the rest of your team makes up for having weak centres, then go for it.
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Milchcow wrote:
How much of a rise is good enough depends on a few things.
For an NPR who is just there to make cash and isn't part of your playing 17, then you want to make over $100k (15+ points above average)
For one of your starting team who is already averaging over 45, then its not as important that they make massive increases. Sometimes just maintaining last years average is a good result. Not many players priced that high can increase their average by 10 points a game, so any that you can grab are good.
But, when you think about your final 17, you really want all your scoring forwards and backs to be averaging 50 points a game or higher. If you can get one from the start for under $400k then that is a big win.
Krump mentioned that Peats and Granville put up similar scores. If you expect that to be the case then Granville is a no-brainer as he is $100k cheaper.
So the question is really - how likely is it that Granville averages 50+. Because if he does you almost certainly want him.
If you look at finals games and not just the regular season, Granville was still doing a lot of workload sharing, and I would expect that to continue, at least to start the season.
AS for the rest if your team - its all a balancing act. if you are happy that the rest of your team makes up for having weak centres, then go for it.
Jake unlikely to be part of my final 17. Would need to trade him out before origin 2. I was hoping though, that if he increases in value I could trade him out to say Peats without costing too much. If he averaged 50, how much would his value go up do you think?
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Does Foran have much of a long kicking game? Norman more likely to do that? I think if you're gonna go with a mid range half Norman is a good optionKrump wrote:
First team I've seen Norman in,what are your expectations there? I'm not sold on Packer getting enough minutes but other than that it's one of the strongest drafts I've seen yet.
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Hey everyone im a first time poster... Everyone here is pretty knowledgeable i thought may ask for your opinion on my team... Any advice would be appreciated
Lichaa, Parcell
Woods, Surgess, Graham, Lawrence
Mannering, JDB, Ah Mau, Rochow
DCE, Hastings, Taylor, J Niko
Copley, Fergurson
Gordon, Mansour, Barba (hope he get fullback gig
40k spare
Cheers everyone
Lichaa, Parcell
Woods, Surgess, Graham, Lawrence
Mannering, JDB, Ah Mau, Rochow
DCE, Hastings, Taylor, J Niko
Copley, Fergurson
Gordon, Mansour, Barba (hope he get fullback gig
40k spare
Cheers everyone
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PAPA GUISEPPE wrote:Hey everyone im a first time poster... Everyone here is pretty knowledgeable i thought may ask for your opinion on my team... Any advice would be appreciated
Lichaa, Parcell
Woods, Surgess, Graham, Lawrence
Mannering, JDB, Ah Mau, Rochow
DCE, Hastings, Taylor, J Niko
Copley, Fergurson
Gordon, Mansour, Barba (hope he get fullback gig
40k spare
Cheers everyone
What are your plans if Barba doesn't get FB position?
Other than that, that is an awesome looking team with a stacked FRF.
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Random wrote:
What are your plans if Barba doesn't get FB position?
Other than that, that is an awesome looking team with a stacked FRF.
I was thinking downgrading a FR, moving Fergurson to WFB and picking up lafai
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PAPA GUISEPPE wrote:
I was thinking downgrading a FR, moving Fergurson to WFB and picking up lafai
That sounds like a good plan.
The only other concern I would have is if Parcell starts from the bench. Because unless Parcell is getting 30+ minutes it is unlikely that he will improve on his price. Not that he is a bad option, he is the only cheap HOK to look at. Although it does look like he will get 40 minutes and start at this stage. Just something to keep in mind.
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Barba only available at half.
The most cow congested possie of them all.
If Ash Taylor, Hastings, Te Marie & J-Nik all get starts, & Barba wins the FB spot.... what are we to do?
The most cow congested possie of them all.
If Ash Taylor, Hastings, Te Marie & J-Nik all get starts, & Barba wins the FB spot.... what are we to do?
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Big Kev wrote:Barba only available at half.
The most cow congested possie of them all.
If Ash Taylor, Hastings, Te Marie & J-Nik all get starts, & Barba wins the FB spot.... what are we to do?
Im pretty sure if barba is named at fullback for the first game he'll get dual status
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Big Kev wrote:Barba only available at half.
The most cow congested possie of them all.
If Ash Taylor, Hastings, Te Marie & J-Nik all get starts, & Barba wins the FB spot.... what are we to do?
Rule out J-Nik because that's going to be a temp thing. That could be a trap as well, imagine he gets a few weeks and then Pearce comes back but you've had 2 massive injuries and need to get rid of them both but J-Nik is playing on the bench and his money is set. You'll be playing catch up with trades for ages.
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Honey Badger wrote:
Im pretty sure if barba is named at fullback for the first game he'll get dual status
Did they do that last year? I don't remember. Thought they had to start 3 games in a pos to get dpp.
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Gone with a team adjusted a bit after the nines.
Segayaro Parcell
Fifita Sue
Parker Merrin Cartwright Paasi
DCE Milford Roberts Hastings
Hurrell Lafai
Mansour Gordon Copley
Segayaro Parcell
Fifita Sue
Parker Merrin Cartwright Paasi
DCE Milford Roberts Hastings
Hurrell Lafai
Mansour Gordon Copley
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Big Kev wrote:
Did they do that last year? I don't remember. Thought they had to start 3 games in a pos to get dpp.
Yeah they did. Tui played fullback for warriors in their first game and was given dual before the game
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SoylentGreen wrote:
Cheers Welshy - it's much harder to get a fix on the mid-range potential scores than the tried and true Smiths, Parkers, Fensoms etc.
DCE is a worry as my only captain option - I'm really just hoping that he doesn't have a poor score in the first 5-6 weeks, by which time I'm hoping to upgrade one of the forwards to another more reliable captain choice.
Taupau running off DCE is exactly my reasoning for picking him
Aubbs is Aubbs, but the similar option pricewise that I can see is Chris Lawrence, and he's as much of an enigma in my view.
No worries mate, that is the problem with the stacked mid rangers, unless the vast majority hit then your score turns average which is why having a few GUNS lessens the risk because they consistently get their already bigger points avgs, even if half of them hit their higher score potential you could still be in trouble
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Honey Badger wrote:
Yeah they did. Tui played fullback for warriors in their first game and was given dual before the game
its 4 games after the season starts isn't it?
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Lone scout said on Twitter that Barba would be given DPP if named there.
They did it last year as well for a couple players in pre-season.
Once the season started they need to start 4 games in the new position (not be named there on tuesday, or move their during the game, but be named their in final team list 1 hour before game)
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Hi all,
What do you think of my team. Any comments would be appreciated:
Smith, Granville
Woods, LAM, Pauli, Welch
Parker, JDB, Burgess, STK, MCK, Bhana
DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Nikorima
Copley, Auva'a, Henry, Nuffie
Ferguson, Mansauce, Gordon, Gutherson, Mitchell
Cheers
What do you think of my team. Any comments would be appreciated:
Smith, Granville
Woods, LAM, Pauli, Welch
Parker, JDB, Burgess, STK, MCK, Bhana
DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Nikorima
Copley, Auva'a, Henry, Nuffie
Ferguson, Mansauce, Gordon, Gutherson, Mitchell
Cheers
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Welshy wrote:
No worries mate, that is the problem with the stacked mid rangers, unless the vast majority hit then your score turns average which is why having a few GUNS lessens the risk because they consistently get their already bigger points avgs, even if half of them hit their higher score potential you could still be in trouble
The law of averages should see them hit somewhere in the middle of those scores as a group - the fewer of those mid-rangers you have the higher the chance you pick mostly duds.