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    Post by NewyCoop Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:47 pm

    Ok, so this is what I'm working with at the moment. P.Carter and Paasi are the only pick I'm not sold on.

    HOK: Peats, (Granville)
    FRF: Bromwich, Fifita (vc), (Packer, B. Lawrence)
    2RF: Mannering (C), S. Burgess, Paasi, (Pauli, Carter, Aloiai)
    HLF: A. Reynolds, Hastings, (J. Nikorima, Taylor)
    CTR: Aubusson, Auva'a, (Henry, Littlejohn)
    WFB: Dugan, Gordon, Feeney, (Mitchell, Gutherson)

    Got 23k to spare.


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    Post by Dttragic2016 Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:09 pm

    mango wrote:

    Haha it don't sound all that bad if that's how it all ends up

    Yep, I'm stage 3 Cheers
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    Post by Fortitude Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:22 pm

    Hey guys
    This is my very first time doing Fantasy, id appreciate any feedback.

    Lichaa, (Nikorima (S))

    Bromwich, K,Evans, (Leuluai, Pauli)

    Merrin, Sue, Soiloia, (Ah Mau (s), Cartwright (S) C.Welch)

    Milford, Hastings, (Mcrone, Dockar)

    Croker, CLawarence, (Gutherson (S), Griffin)

    Tedesco, Mansour,Ferguson, (Wells Eden)
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    Post by PAPA GUISEPPE Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:43 pm

    Fortitude wrote:Hey guys
    This is my very first time doing Fantasy, id appreciate any feedback.

    Lichaa, (Nikorima (S))

    Bromwich, K,Evans, (Leuluai, Pauli)

    Merrin, Sue, Soiloia, (Ah Mau (s), Cartwright (S) C.Welch)

    Milford, Hastings, (Mcrone, Dockar)

    Croker, CLawarence, (Gutherson (S), Griffin)

    Tedesco, Mansour,Ferguson, (Wells Eden)

    Im no fantasy expert but i would spend a bit more money and get a gum captain (captains score double points)..

    I would also get rid of McCone and go A Taylor

    And i wouldnt rely on Gutherson scoring to well as your last reserve...

    Im pretty new still so the people on here can help you out alot more then what i can
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    Post by Fortitude Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:49 pm

    PAPA GUISEPPE wrote:

    Im no fantasy expert but i would spend a bit more money and get a gum captain (captains score double points)..

    I would also get rid of McCone and go A Taylor

    And i wouldnt rely on Gutherson scoring to well as your last reserve...

    Im pretty new still so the people on here can help you out alot more then what i can


    Cheers for the feedback

    I don't have a lot of money in the bank, was thinking maybe downgrade one of the back 3, just not sure who to put in.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:10 pm


    On my honeymoon in the Cook Islands, my wife and I went to see the Titakaveka Bulldogs play a team from Christchurch in a friendly.

    Beautiful ground to watch league at. Will see if I can dig up a photo.

    Best honeymoon ever
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:47 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    Beautiful ground to watch league at. Will see if I can dig up a photo.

    Make sure your wife is in the photo.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:01 pm

    Dttragic2016 wrote:

    Immediate thought:
    Jtrob to blaw and upgrade centres. Id go copley to whoever you can afford. If you cant get to aubs croker etc then downgrade rochow to someone around 270k say turner etc.
    Essentially youre downgrading jtrob to blaw which imo is say a 5 to 10 pt downgrade and rochow to say turner again say 5 to 10 pts.
    That's roughly15 points which I think you're easily making up for with copley to aubs or croker whilst also suring up 1 of 2 centre slots.

    Cheers for the thoughts pal.
    Made some changes based on your info and then some haha

    Seggy, Parcell
    McGuire, Woods, BLawrence, Leuluai
    Fensom, Merrin, SST, Carty, Pauli, Frei
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Jikorima
    Aubbs, Croker, Auvaa, Henry
    Mansour, Slater, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson

    Centre Dream Team haha
    Probably quite different to the norm on here this year
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:16 pm


    Stadium here.

    Mrs Cow might be in the photo somewhere, see if you can spot her

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    Post by Dttragic2016 Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:55 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Cheers for the thoughts pal.
    Made some changes based on your info and then some haha

    Seggy, Parcell
    McGuire, Woods, BLawrence, Leuluai
    Fensom, Merrin, SST, Carty, Pauli, Frei
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Jikorima
    Aubbs, Croker, Auvaa, Henry
    Mansour, Slater, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson

    Centre Dream Team haha
    Probably quite different to the norm on here this year

    Loving that team. Only worries are barba and parcell obviously dependant on TLW.
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    Post by Dttragic2016 Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:56 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    On my honeymoon in the Cook Islands, my wife and I went to see the Titakaveka Bulldogs play a team from Christchurch in a friendly.

    Beautiful ground to watch league at. Will see if I can dig up a photo.

    Best honeymoon ever

    Sounds like good fun. We're at Marina Bay Sands and got upgraded by going on and on about how it was our honeymoon haha

    Cant wait till next weekend though.oh actually next Thursday!
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:02 pm

    Fortitude wrote:Hey guys
    This is my very first time doing Fantasy, id appreciate any feedback.

    Lichaa, (Nikorima (S))

    Bromwich, K,Evans, (Leuluai, Pauli)

    Merrin, Sue, Soiloia, (Ah Mau (s), Cartwright (S) C.Welch)

    Milford, Hastings, (Mcrone, Dockar)

    Croker, CLawarence, (Gutherson (S), Griffin)

    Tedesco, Mansour,Ferguson, (Wells Eden)

    Welcome mate,

    I haven't done the sums but just from the lack of guns compared to others would I be right in saying you have a reasonable bit of cap space left. While having some spare is good you want to try and maximize potential points as much as you can and I think you are leaving too many points in your cap.

    As for your team:

    Hooker- Lichaa is a solid option. Should definitely score as good as last year and there are reports/rumours he wants a bit more of an attacking role this year so could see him increase his average. Niko looks to be a decent cash cow (a cheapie who you hope will increase a lot in price) and many on here have him in your side. I am one of those however who advocate for running a 2nd hooker option so would prefer him in the halves. Generally come the end of the season a 2nd hooker is in most teams as a sub and they are consistent, and high scoring. Having Niko there means he needs to make up a lot of cash and you will also need to find a fair amount of cash to upgrade him come the business end of the season. Also if Lichaa was to go down for 2 or so games and isn't worth a trade out you then have to run Niko as a scorer and that is a risky call. If you after a cheaper gun hooker then look at Hodgson or run a slight risk with Granville.

    Front Row- Bromwich is a proven gun regardless of his drop off the 2nd half of last year. Still the best in the game, he plays big minutes, scores at a steady rate and isn't tied up in Origin like other gun props. Evans is likely to see some benefit from JWH injury but you would be hoping he scores at a much better rate though because he still needs to make up some decent cash to be flipped come round 8 or so when JWH return rumours start. Would go much better as a reserve option in my opinion with a reliable second scorer there as there is no guarantee Evans starts every game and it could easily be rotated between him and Napa. Even switching Ah Mau there provides you with a reliable scorer with a reliable role in his team. Pauli is a good option and I like it, even better with Tapine leaving, while Leuluai is a TLT decision.

    2nd Row- You've gone for a fair bit of depth here which is good. Merrin I like as he could be in for a big year, I've already mentioned my thoughts on Ah Mau but he is a solid scorer who many think can up his game this year. Cartwright is in a similar boat with many on here hoping he becomes a 60+ min backrower as he has the potential for some big games with his attacking abilities. Not sure on Sue, if he is named at lock then he is a decent option but anywhere else and I don't think he has much reason to expect a growth in his game. Same with Soliola. With that packed Raiders backrow, I can't see him growing his game and he isn't at that level yet where you don't care about an increase in price because you are playing for the points, a la Smith, Parker. Would be much better going for someone like De Belin, Matulino from the backrow who could see increased minutes/roles or looking at a gun prop like Woods, Graham, McGuire.

    Half- Missing your big gun here. While Milford could be a good scorer and increase his average this year, I just can't personally go into a season without at least one recognized gun half. Even someone like AReynolds if you are trying to save some cash, but you will be hurt having Milford there when he is your big name half and he has an off night and scores 20 while someone like DCE has an off night and scores 40. Milford not being the dominant half needs a lot to go his way to score 60 points but the big 5 (JT, Hunt, DCE, SJ, ARey) don't need a whole lot as they should put up 35-45 in base stats pretty much. Besides that Hastings will be in pretty much everyone's team for a reason so good work there. Why have you picked McCrone? Do you think Benji or Widdop will go down injured because picking someone by hoping for an injury won't work out. Look at someone like Ash Taylor who is basement priced but should start each and every week. Same deal with Dockar. He isn't in line for a starting spot, and even then you have TMM likely above him in the pecking order but is the same price. Or if you pick up a second gun hooker then you can put Niko here.

    Centres- Croker should score pretty well most weeks for you, but as with a lot of backs, you need to stick with them for the season because for most of them you are picking them for their average at the end of the season. The backs will fluctuate a fair bit from week to week as they will rely on attacking stats rather than base stats so it will vary from game to game. Croker is just as likely to follow up a 55 with a 25 then follow that up with a 20 and then a 60. You don't want to sell after the 20. Whereas Lawrence you can select as a centre, but will likely be playing 2nd row he will/should score more consistently week to week so you may want to be a bit harsher here if there is a bad patch. Still a very good pairing though, but there is a fair amount of cheap options in the backs this year and many are using them in order to fund a more highs scoring forward pack so just something to consider downgrading one. Gutherson is a solid 3rd option but I wouldn't take Griffin. Needs an injury to get a regular run at centre for the Storm I think with Munster likely playing centre whenever Billy is fit. Look at someone like Auva'a who should start most weeks for the bunnies.

    WFB's- Your best grouping. Teddy is a gun and unlike RTS there probably isn't as much risk of a drop off in points. You've gone for him instead of a gun in another position and although in theory it doesn't matter if you have someone averaging 50 in fullback or someone averaging 50 at prop as they both average the same, I would just like to say that it is likely the prop will maintain that consistently, be that week to week or month to month. But regardless he is a nice pick and should be somewhat of a POD (point of difference) come the early stages of the season. Mansour and Fergo have been in a fair lot of teams so far as they are both mid range options who people think will increase in scoring this year. Both solid and shouldn't let you down.

    The lack of an obvious captain options is a bit of a worry, but with that team there your best bet would likely be Merrin/Bromwich most weeks
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    Post by Kiwi Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:03 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    On my honeymoon in the Cook Islands, my wife and I went to see the Titakaveka Bulldogs play a team from Christchurch in a friendly.

    Beautiful ground to watch league at. Will see if I can dig up a photo.

    Best honeymoon ever
    I got married in raro, what a place!
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:43 pm

    Dttragic2016 wrote:

    Loving that team. Only worries are barba and parcell obviously dependant on TLW.

    Cheers DTTRAGIC, Yeah those two worry me slightly but hopefully i have room to maneuver based on TLT. Fensom and Merrin could be downgraded to grab some cap and upgrade, but we will see.

    Any second opinions would be swell Smile
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    Post by Dttragic2016 Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:23 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:


    Cheers DTTRAGIC, Yeah those two worry me slightly but hopefully i have room to maneuver based on TLT. Fensom and Merrin could be downgraded to grab some cap and upgrade, but we will see.

    Any second opinions would be swell Smile

    Somethjng to consider would be since febsom now also has tapine in a stacked pack downgrading him to a 300ish k fwd expected to get more mins with a good ppm and then upgrading parcell to a granvilla hodgson licha etc if money allows
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    Post by quicksand Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:53 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    On my honeymoon in the Cook Islands, my wife and I went to see the Titakaveka Bulldogs play a team from Christchurch in a friendly.

    Beautiful ground to watch league at. Will see if I can dig up a photo.

    Best honeymoon ever

    how many have you had ?
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:07 am

    Dttragic2016 wrote:

    Somethjng to consider would be since febsom now also has tapine in a stacked pack downgrading him to a 300ish k fwd expected to get more mins with a good ppm and then upgrading parcell to a granvilla hodgson licha etc if money allows

    This has just gotten silly pal. My team has become mid range city, isn't that what your not supposed to do??

    Lichaa (c), Hodgson
    McGuire, Woods, BLawrence, Leuluai
    Merrin, SST, Carty, Rochow, Pauli, Frei
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Jikorima
    Aubbs, Croker, Auvaa, Gutherson
    Mansour, Slater, Barba, Feeney, Mitchell

    1k left as surely there's nothing you can say now
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:00 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    This has just gotten silly pal. My team has become mid range city, isn't that what your not supposed to do??

    Lichaa (c), Hodgson
    McGuire, Woods, BLawrence, Leuluai
    Merrin, SST, Carty, Rochow, Pauli, Frei
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, Jikorima
    Aubbs, Croker, Auvaa, Gutherson
    Mansour, Slater, Barba, Feeney, Mitchell

    1k left as surely there's nothing you can say now

    Nice team there. Spread the cap around a bit more than some teams which can be both good and bad. You have a decent bit tied up in the centres though and I'm not sure it is worth running both Aubo and Croker to start the season. Why not just go with Aubo to start then pocket the cash and trade him to Croker once Cordner returns. Pair him with a cheaper partner and that should you give you the cash to get a legitimat gun captaincy option in the forwards somewhere. Besides that it is all looking pretty good, but just be aware that Barba and Aubo are TLT dependent.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:14 am

    Thought i would finally post a team and get involved. 1k in the bank
    Have chopped and changed and what is currently saved pending TLT.

    Undecided originally if i want to go with the cheap halves as reserves (as they should score reasonable to a mid range forward but opted this for current setup).
    This would allow me to bring in a couple more keepers, but the problem is no real cows pushing through in prop and 4-5 players low mid that look to be decent value.

    Alot of DPP as well, dual position players as well Wink Bit light in fullback but if both start should make some $$ and score reasonably (compared to going weak in CTRS)


    Smith (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Grant, Evans, Lawrence
    Surgess, Merrin, Ah Mau, Cartwright Henry, Leuluai
    Dce, Hastings, (JNiko, Taylor)
    Aubusson, Jlawrence, (Auvua, Gutherson)
    Gordon, Barba, Feeney, (Mitchell, Anderson)
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    Post by Fortitude Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:40 am

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    Welcome mate,

    I haven't done the sums but just from the lack of guns compared to others would I be right in saying you have a reasonable bit of cap space left. While having some spare is good you want to try and maximize potential points as much as you can and I think you are leaving too many points in your cap.

    As for your team:

    Hooker- Lichaa is a solid option. Should definitely score as good as last year and there are reports/rumours he wants a bit more of an attacking role this year so could see him increase his average. Niko looks to be a decent cash cow (a cheapie who you hope will increase a lot in price) and many on here have him in your side. I am one of those however who advocate for running a 2nd hooker option so would prefer him in the halves. Generally come the end of the season a 2nd hooker is in most teams as a sub and they are consistent, and high scoring. Having Niko there means he needs to make up a lot of cash and you will also need to find a fair amount of cash to upgrade him come the business end of the season. Also if Lichaa was to go down for 2 or so games and isn't worth a trade out you then have to run Niko as a scorer and that is a risky call. If you after a cheaper gun hooker then look at Hodgson or run a slight risk with Granville.

    Front Row- Bromwich is a proven gun regardless of his drop off the 2nd half of last year. Still the best in the game, he plays big minutes, scores at a steady rate and isn't tied up in Origin like other gun props. Evans is likely to see some benefit from JWH injury but you would be hoping he scores at a much better rate though because he still needs to make up some decent cash to be flipped come round 8 or so when JWH return rumours start. Would go much better as a reserve option in my opinion with a reliable second scorer there as there is no guarantee Evans starts every game and it could easily be rotated between him and Napa. Even switching Ah Mau there provides you with a reliable scorer with a reliable role in his team. Pauli is a good option and I like it, even better with Tapine leaving, while Leuluai is a TLT decision.

    2nd Row- You've gone for a fair bit of depth here which is good. Merrin I like as he could be in for a big year, I've already mentioned my thoughts on Ah Mau but he is a solid scorer who many think can up his game this year. Cartwright is in a similar boat with many on here hoping he becomes a 60+ min backrower as he has the potential for some big games with his attacking abilities. Not sure on Sue, if he is named at lock then he is a decent option but anywhere else and I don't think he has much reason to expect a growth in his game. Same with Soliola. With that packed Raiders backrow, I can't see him growing his game and he isn't at that level yet where you don't care about an increase in price because you are playing for the points, a la Smith, Parker. Would be much better going for someone like De Belin, Matulino from the backrow who could see increased minutes/roles or looking at a gun prop like Woods, Graham, McGuire.

    Half- Missing your big gun here. While Milford could be a good scorer and increase his average this year, I just can't personally go into a season without at least one recognized gun half. Even someone like AReynolds if you are trying to save some cash, but you will be hurt having Milford there when he is your big name half and he has an off night and scores 20 while someone like DCE has an off night and scores 40. Milford not being the dominant half needs a lot to go his way to score 60 points but the big 5 (JT, Hunt, DCE, SJ, ARey) don't need a whole lot as they should put up 35-45 in base stats pretty much. Besides that Hastings will be in pretty much everyone's team for a reason so good work there. Why have you picked McCrone? Do you think Benji or Widdop will go down injured because picking someone by hoping for an injury won't work out. Look at someone like Ash Taylor who is basement priced but should start each and every week. Same deal with Dockar. He isn't in line for a starting spot, and even then you have TMM likely above him in the pecking order but is the same price. Or if you pick up a second gun hooker then you can put Niko here.

    Centres- Croker should score pretty well most weeks for you, but as with a lot of backs, you need to stick with them for the season because for most of them you are picking them for their average at the end of the season. The backs will fluctuate a fair bit from week to week as they will rely on attacking stats rather than base stats so it will vary from game to game. Croker is just as likely to follow up a 55 with a 25 then follow that up with a 20 and then a 60. You don't want to sell after the 20. Whereas Lawrence you can select as a centre, but will likely be playing 2nd row he will/should score more consistently week to week so you may want to be a bit harsher here if there is a bad patch. Still a very good pairing though, but there is a fair amount of cheap options in the backs this year and many are using them in order to fund a more highs scoring forward pack so just something to consider downgrading one. Gutherson is a solid 3rd option but I wouldn't take Griffin. Needs an injury to get a regular run at centre for the Storm I think with Munster likely playing centre whenever Billy is fit. Look at someone like Auva'a who should start most weeks for the bunnies.

    WFB's- Your best grouping. Teddy is a gun and unlike RTS there probably isn't as much risk of a drop off in points. You've gone for him instead of a gun in another position and although in theory it doesn't matter if you have someone averaging 50 in fullback or someone averaging 50 at prop as they both average the same, I would just like to say that it is likely the prop will maintain that consistently, be that week to week or month to month. But regardless he is a nice pick and should be somewhat of a POD (point of difference) come the early stages of the season. Mansour and Fergo have been in a fair lot of teams so far as they are both mid range options who people think will increase in scoring this year. Both solid and shouldn't let you down.

    The lack of an obvious captain options is a bit of a worry, but with that team there your best bet would likely be Merrin/Bromwich most weeks

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