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    Post by Beast From The Big East Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:30 pm

    Coathanger wrote:Hi Guys, I'm a fantasy rookie who has landed in a league of hot pots.
    Can you please run your eyes over my team and see if I have any shockers!(Be Gentle)

    Luke - Granville
    Surgess-Hannant - Welch,Kennedy
    Mannering - Lowe - Cartwright,Henry.Bhana,Frei
    DCE - Mbye, Mann,Taylor
    Linnett - Hurrell, Lawrence,Griffin
    Ferguson - Oates - Gutherson,Mitchell,Mosby

    60K left.

    Welcome mate.

    Hooker- You have two guys here who are perfectly fine to run as your 2nd hooker, but you need that reliable scorer as your big gun. Yes they are cheaper options than others, but you don't get the consistency and guaranteed minutes you get elsewhere. Luke has some question marks around whether he will play 80, as well as adjusting to a new team, while Granville is likely to not see 80 mins and is an up and down scorer. Would be better to run with one of them, Granville probably the better option given his price, and pairing him with a more reliable high scorer like Smith, or Macca/Peats or Friend/Farah for a bit of a POD move.

    Front Row- Surgess is a great pick but not Hannant. Sure he scores all right but there is no reason to think he will see an increase in point this year which is how you are wanting to pick really. He needs an injury to get his way into the starting lineup and even then I'm not sure you would see too much increase in minutes anyway. If you are really wanting someone from that price range then possibly the best bet to improve their scores this year is JTurbo/Ah Mau, but otherwise look at seeing if you can find the cash and upgrading to an underprice gun like Woods/Graham/McGuire/De Belin/Matulino

    2nd Row-Mannering is an interesting pick. Sure he should still put up big numbers, but with losing the captaincy he could see a reduction in minutes as he doesn't necessarily have to be out there the whole team anymore. Nevertheless he should still put up elite level scores, but this could be somewhere you can look at downgrading in order to fix your hookers. Look at guys like Merrin/Graham as the two just below elite level 2rfs, or guys like Taupau, De Belin, MCooper as guys who could increase in a new role. Lowe is a similar guy in some ways to Hannant. He should score pretty similar to his average and be a nice POD but there just doesn't seem to be too much potential for growth in my opinion. He had a real step up year last year, but with no changes to the Cowboys pack it is hard for me to find ways for him to consistently score more points. Once again look at the guys like Taupau, Cooper or De Belin, Matulino, Guerra as guys who could surpass their average. Cartwright is a good pick, as are your bench but I would worry about not having a 4th option. Henry is still only a possible bench option at the Warriors and none of your 3 reserves will score enough and be regular scorers to cover you if you have to sub them in. Try look for some cheap options here if you are trying to save some cash but try to get at least one reliable scorer rather than just potential cash cows.

    Halves- DCE is good, as is Taylor but I'm not sure on MBye and Mann. You need to fit in Hastings there at least as he is arguably the best cash cow to start the season with. If you downgrade Mann to him that frees up some decent cash. That leaves you deciding what to do with MBye. It is has been brought up here before that of the two, Reynolds is the best pick out of the two of them as he is the one who tends to score more when they are paired together. Other than him, you could look at downgrading to another cheapie like JNiko or TMM and running with DCE and 3 cheapies which many on here are running with. If you prefer a decent scorer alongside DCE however then maybe look at someone like Austin/Widdop as PODs, or use the cash gained from downgrading Mann, and upgrading to AReynolds or Sezer. But if you prefer MBye he should still put up solid scores

    Centres- Here is where you are spending unnecessary money in my opinion. For years and years, centres have always been kind of the dud position fantasy wise. It used to be that there were a lot of DPP 2rfs here and the scoring discrepancy was so big that you just selected them and left it. But in recent times this has always been the best area to save some cash and look at possible cash cows. There aren't as many obvious ones this year but there at least enough options that you shouldn't have to have a reserve from this position, or at least one that isn't a cheapie. Linnett is once again someone who I would question just on the basis of a lack of obvious growth. Around the same price your best bet would be Aubusson, but you are better to go cheaper here. If you shift Lawrence into your number 1 centre slot, you can downgrade Linnett to Auva'a who looks the most likely cheapie option. Hurrell will always be polarizing as he is so hit and miss, both in terms of scores but also whether he plays or not. If you want to gamble on him then go ahead and there are certainly benefits, but just look at TLT to see some likely cheap options you could run with, or even as cheapies on the bench and start with Auva'a.

    WFBs- Ferguson is really the only decent pick here of your starters. Not to say Gutherson isn't good but just that he is a gamble on his scoring so despite featuring in many teams his scoring isn't set in stone. Oates needs to go. Doesn't score well, plays on the wing half usually whenever he starts and doesn't feature in the attack except being on the end of passes. Around his price you could bring in Mann if you really rate his chances this year, you could pay the extra and get the likes of Gordon/Mansour, or you look at a cheaper option in Barba if he gets the FB spot but even then he is a gamble as no guarantee he keeps it.

    You've got the makings of a nice team, and a fair few POD options which can be both good and bad. But in order to make the most of the starting salary cap you really need to pick guys who are either elite level in their position, or likely to improve on their priced average and there are too many in my opinion who are just steady picks with nowhere really to go price and average wise
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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:50 pm

    For @Krump

    @Mango

    Smith 122 Lichaa 50-55
    Graham 52 Grant 35-45 Evans 30-40 Lawrence 30
    Surgess 55-62 Merrin 55-62 Cartwright 40-55 Aubbs 35-50 Saifiti, Bhana
    DCE 55-62 Hastings 30-40 Feeney, Taylor
    Gutherson 25 Auva'a 25 Henry, Scott
    Teddy 45-60 Gordon 40 Barba 20-35 Mitchell, Eden

    744 - 860. Middling out to 802

    I'd like to see Aubbs in the CTR spot and someone like Leuluai in the vacant 2RF spot
    Play Feeney/Taylor as the 4th reserve over Auva'a/Gutherson, think you can get more out of the team that way

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    Post by mango Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:35 pm

    Welshy wrote:For @Krump

    @Mango  

    Smith 122 Lichaa 50-55
    Graham 52 Grant 35-45 Evans 30-40 Lawrence 30
    Surgess 55-62 Merrin 55-62 Cartwright  40-55 Aubbs 35-50 Saifiti, Bhana
    DCE 55-62 Hastings 30-40 Feeney, Taylor
    Gutherson 25 Auva'a 25 Henry, Scott
    Teddy 45-60 Gordon 40 Barba 20-35 Mitchell, Eden

    744 - 860. Middling out to 802

    I'd like to see Aubbs in the CTR spot and someone like Leuluai in the vacant 2RF spot
    Play Feeney/Taylor as the 4th reserve over Auva'a/Gutherson, think you can get more out of the team that way


    Thanks Welshy, same score as my first team.

    If Aubbs goes to centre I'll have to move Henry to 2RF so I can swap them around in case Aubbs has to cover in the 2nd row. I'm also hoping that Aubbs will eventually become Parker or Gallen.

    I may even go back to my previous squad, I only had 1k leftover and one less gun but had both Aubbs and CLaw in the centres. The backs were weaker but the overall side looked stronger.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:52 pm

    Final team (yeah, right) pending teamlists. SJ over DCE because contrary.

    Smith (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Graham, Evans (Leuluai)
    Surgess, Guerra, Cartwright, Whitehead (BHenry/Aloiai, JSaifiti)
    SJ, JRey, Hastings (Taylor)
    Leilua, Auva'a/NGreen (Auva'a/NGreen, Scott)
    Ferguson, Barba, Feeney/Mitchell (Feeney/Mitchell, Gutherson)

    Do your worst, Welshy...
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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:08 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Final team (yeah, right) pending teamlists. SJ over DCE because contrary.

    Smith (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Graham, Evans (Leuluai)
    Surgess, Guerra, Cartwright, Whitehead (BHenry/Aloiai, JSaifiti)
    SJ, JRey, Hastings (Taylor)
    Leilua, Auva'a/NGreen (Auva'a/NGreen, Scott)
    Ferguson, Barba, Feeney/Mitchell (Feeney/Mitchell, Gutherson)

    Do your worst, Welshy...

    Smith 122, Lichaa 50-55
    Woods 50-55 Graham 52 Evans 30-40 (Leuluai)
    Surgess 55-62 Guerra 48-52 Cartwright 40-55 Whitehead 30-45 (BHenry/Aloiai, JSaifiti)
    SJ 55-60 JRey 40-45 Hastings 30-40 (Taylor)
    Leilua 25-40 Auva'a/NGreen 25 (Auva'a/NGreen, Scott)
    Ferguson 35-45 Barba 20-35 Feeney 25-35(Feeney/Mitchell, Gutherson)

    took Feeney over Mitchell as a FB generally scores more than a CTR/Wing

    732 - 863. Middling out to 798

    Nice mate!

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    Post by Beast From The Big East Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:16 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Final team (yeah, right) pending teamlists. SJ over DCE because contrary.

    Smith (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Graham, Evans (Leuluai)
    Surgess, Guerra, Cartwright, Whitehead (BHenry/Aloiai, JSaifiti)
    SJ, JRey, Hastings (Taylor)
    Leilua, Auva'a/NGreen (Auva'a/NGreen, Scott)
    Ferguson, Barba, Feeney/Mitchell (Feeney/Mitchell, Gutherson)

    Do your worst, Welshy...

    really like the look of this team.

    -Gun hooker combo
    -2 reliable and potentially under priced gun frf's and a likely decent cash cow in evans
    -gun 2nd rower, a high end scorer in Guerra who I think hasn't been mentioned enough and a mid ranger who has great potential. Not a fan of the Whitehead pick. Too many question marks surrounding minutes and role for me at this stage.
    -a gun and mid ranger in the halves for a change of pace from most others. bold move going with SJ early on. Not worried about a slow start like last year?? Hunt might be a better alternative if you are after a POD compared to DCE.
    -don't really like the Leilua pick but that's just me. cheap options here so saved some money
    -a pretty standard wfb line which is similar to what most others are putting out. what's the plan though if Barba isn't named at FB, or if he gets shifted after 2 rounds?
    not sol
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    Post by rhinoceroo Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:29 pm

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    really like the look of this team.

    -Gun hooker combo
    -2 reliable and potentially under priced gun frf's and a likely decent cash cow in evans
    -gun 2nd rower, a high end scorer in Guerra who I think hasn't been mentioned enough and a mid ranger who has great potential. Not a fan of the Whitehead pick. Too many question marks surrounding minutes and role for me at this stage.
    -a gun and mid ranger in the halves for a change of pace from most others. bold move going with SJ early on. Not worried about a slow start like last year?? Hunt might be a better alternative if you are after a POD compared to DCE.
    -don't really like the Leilua pick but that's just me. cheap options here so saved some money
    -a pretty standard wfb line which is similar to what most others are putting out. what's the plan though if Barba isn't named at FB, or if he gets shifted after 2 rounds?
    not sol

    Haven't really worked out a plan for the Barba situation. Would prob mean downgrading Woods or JRey to get a Gordon/Slater level player in the WFBs, but that ruins some of the good points you've seen in the team. That or hope one of the ressies are scoring well enough to put into the 17 and try to grab another cow.
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:39 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Haven't really worked out a plan for the Barba situation. Would prob mean downgrading Woods or JRey to get a Gordon/Slater level player in the WFBs, but that ruins some of the good points you've seen in the team. That or hope one of the ressies are scoring well enough to put into the 17 and try to grab another cow.

    yea the Barba situation is the main issue I'm having deciding on my team. He's priced so awkwardly that if he bombs, it is a reasonable cost to upgrade him to a reliable scorer. I'm thinking that if I run with him to start I need to have a bit more than just 15k left over in the cap
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:51 pm

    Is this team to light on guns?? Or has some balance been struck. Bold are obvioulsy reserve options, not to keen on reserving any of the halves down to wfb except for Taylor

    Seggy (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Grant, Evans, BLaw
    Cooper, Carty, LAM, Rochow, NAS, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNikorima
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Gutherson
    Mansour, Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Mitchell

    16k spare,helps if i post in the right spot Razz
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:16 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Is this team to light on guns?? Or has some balance been struck. Bold are obvioulsy reserve options, not to keen on reserving any of the halves down to wfb except for Taylor

    Seggy (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Grant, Evans, BLaw
    Cooper, Carty, LAM, Rochow, NAS, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNikorima
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Gutherson
    Mansour, Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Mitchell

    16k spare,helps if i post in the right spot Razz

    Replied on other thread Smile

    1. Think there are better options than Cooper (assuming Mike, but same for Gavin) for his price. Downgrade NAS to a $130k player and you could upgrade Cooper to Parker, or to Surgess with plenty of change and your 17 would look a lot stronger. (Think there's even money left over to go M.Cooper to Surgess and Seggy to Smith, if you want)

    2. Would prob pick Ferguson over Mansour in this particular team because you don't have any WFB/CTR DPPs at the back.

    3. Don't fancy CLawrence personally, but may well be wrong on that.

    4. No top-tier captaincy options, but that's fixed by 1.
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    I'll add that 5. After those changes I might steal your team. Looks solid.
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:21 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Is this team to light on guns?? Or has some balance been struck. Bold are obvioulsy reserve options, not to keen on reserving any of the halves down to wfb except for Taylor

    Seggy (c), Lichaa
    Woods, Grant, Evans, BLaw
    Cooper, Carty, LAM, Rochow, NAS, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNikorima
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Gutherson
    Mansour, Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Mitchell

    16k spare,helps if i post in the right spot Razz

    Front row is too light for my liking. As much as Grant, Evans and Blaw are potential cash cows, the only one of them who is reliable enough with their scores is Evans. All are a long way off price wise from a gun should they bomb/make little cash. Would rather run with two of them and a gun alongside Woods, or shift LAM there as he is still a cash earner but represents much more reliable scores
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:46 am

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    Front row is too light for my liking. As much as Grant, Evans and Blaw are potential cash cows, the only one of them who is reliable enough with their scores is Evans. All are a long way off price wise from a gun should they bomb/make little cash. Would rather run with two of them and a gun alongside Woods, or shift LAM there as he is still a cash earner but represents much more reliable scores

    Cheers for the tips lads, have made some slight changes

    Option 1:
    Smith (c), Seggy
    Woods, LAM, NAF, BLaw
    Surgess, Merrin, Cartwright, Rochow, Leuluai, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Henry
    Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson, Mitchell

    Option 2
    Seggy (c), Lichaa
    Woods, LAM, Evans, BLaw
    Surgess, Merrin, Cartwright, Rochow, Leuluai, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Henry
    Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson, Mitchell

    Thoughts?
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:17 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    Front row is too light for my liking. As much as Grant, Evans and Blaw are potential cash cows, the only one of them who is reliable enough with their scores is Evans. All are a long way off price wise from a gun should they bomb/make little cash. Would rather run with two of them and a gun alongside Woods, or shift LAM there as he is still a cash earner but represents much more reliable scores

    Cheers for the tips lads, have made some slight changes

    Option 1:
    Smith (c), Seggy
    Woods, LAM, NAF, BLaw
    Surgess, Merrin, Cartwright, Rochow, Leuluai, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Henry
    Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson, Mitchell

    Option 2
    Seggy (c), Lichaa
    Woods, LAM, Evans, BLaw
    Surgess, Merrin, Cartwright, Rochow, Leuluai, JSaifiti
    DCE, Hastings, Taylor, JNiko
    Aubbs, CLaw, Auvaa, Henry
    Gordon, Barba, Feeney, Gutherson, Mitchell

    Thoughts?

    I have no idea who NAF is and I don't think it matters necessarily. I would rate Smith + Segeyaro pair above the Segeyaro + Lichaa pair, but they are both good options.

    For mine Option 1.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:21 am

    Random wrote:

    I have no idea who NAF is and I don't think it matters necessarily. I would rate Smith + Segeyaro pair above the Segeyaro + Lichaa pair, but they are both good options.

    For mine Option 1.

    Haha Auto-Correct strikes me down, apologies random it is meant to be the storms Solomona i just couldnt be bothered typing as its nearly bedtime
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:31 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Haha Auto-Correct strikes me down, apologies random it is meant to be the storms Solomona i just couldnt be bothered typing as its nearly bedtime

    Nearly bed time.. You are staying up for TLT right? Also I am like the only one who doesn't rate NAS, not sure why I just don't. He has solid stats when playing largish minutes so if he gets game time he is good to go.
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:35 am

    My team for TLT..

    Of course rookies won't stay the same. Also Hodgson is pending bench selection.

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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:57 am

    Random wrote:My team for TLT..

    Of course rookies won't stay the same. Also Hodgson is pending bench selection.

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    TLT should be at 7am my time so will be up and ready to see what happens Smile
    Who the hell is Taia by the way.

    Also seems a bit light on the 'big' guns. Probably quite a bit of potential for making money though I'm guessing.
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:06 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    TLT should be at 7am my time so will be up and ready to see what happens Smile
    Who the hell is Taia by the way.

    Played for the Eels and Knights, went over to the Super League. Looks like he will be playing 80 minutes with the Titans and likes to offload.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:10 am

    Random wrote:

    Played for the Eels and Knights, went over to the Super League. Looks like he will be playing 80 minutes with the Titans and likes to offload.

    Oh right nice to know. I also notice a slight lack of the 'big' guns. Are you looking to build cash very early an hoping those bigger names drop down a bit by the time you snap them up.

    I tried to build a team like this but got told it was too weak
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    Post by Krump Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:15 am

    Random wrote:My team for TLT..

    Of course rookies won't stay the same. Also Hodgson is pending bench selection.

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    That's the lightest 2nd row and heaviest centres i've seen. Kudos for going a different way

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