NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 68 - Cleary Captaincy Conundrum

White Lightning wrote:I was watching some of the swimming heats last night...I watched & watched & not 1 Kiwi swimmer in any of the heats which btw were dominated by Aussie...you would think yes NZ is surrounded by water so NZ  should be quite good at swimming but we aren't.

NZ have 5 golds, 2 silver and a bronze in the pool so far - second only to Australia.

filthridden wrote:


NZ have 5 golds, 2 silver and a bronze in the pool so far - second only to Australia.

See, too many events.

Camo123 wrote:

Still averaging 52 with Moses, just should likely get an uptick on KM without Moses

I’d much prefer to save the trade so news on his future would be nice

wolfking wrote:

See, too many events.

I'm 100% on board with the two many events and it's not just swimming.

100m race, 200m race, 400m race, 800m sprints. Just have one short one and one long one. Maybe one in the middle at most.

100m
5km
Marathon

Done. Piss the rest off. Same with swimming.

Would certainly make things more competitive again. I know everyone has their specialty distances and I'm sure there's reasons and history behind the amount of events but would make it more interesting in my opinion.

There should only be two olympic events. The 100m sprint and 'kick a torp over the pub'

my tv broke wrote:There should only be two olympic events. The 100m Run from the rozzers and 'kick a torp over the pub'

FTFY

If I go with Teddy, then who do we think is the best half option 756k or under (i.e. not named Munster).

Reynolds seems like the sensible option, but there's always the injury risk there, especially if I'm going down to one trade.

Fog is looking alright. And then obviously there's Brown and SOS who everyone seems to tossing up.

my tv broke wrote:There should only be two olympic events. The 100m sprint and 'kick a torp over the pub'

Now I'm thinking there should be a sprint relay, but instead of a baton you carry a footy, bomb the ball over a building, and the next runner catches it before setting off.

I have four survivors from round 1, five if you count bringing Burton back in.

Randall
Haas, Bullemor, Utoikamanu
Fifita, Tuilagi
Schneider, Ilias
Burton, Aitken
Hynes, Papenhuyzen, Crichton

Nanai, Sexton, Mann, MKing

Vailea, Coates, EClark, Tago

Wish I had kept Clark, Tago and Nanai.

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:week;y update in my team tracker

919 points to go into the top 200

however no trades remaining and suffering under the cleary, moses, elliot trifecta of horror,

this will probably be my zenith and expect to lose lots of ranks in the coming weeks!

enjoy the read and feel free to admonish me in the comments

For a newbie GarethEllisismyDad, you have well and truly smashed it this year.
If you keep improving, you'll be a top 10 gun player within a couple of seasons.
Unlike the Bludger, who has been playing this game since 2015 and still struggles to finish in the top 2000.

filthridden wrote:I have four survivors from round 1, five if you count bringing Burton back in.

Randall
Haas, Bullemor, Utoikamanu
Fifita, Tuilagi
Schneider, Ilias
Burton, Aitken
Hynes, Papenhuyzen, Crichton

Nanai, Sexton, Mann, MKing

Vailea, Coates, EClark, Tago

Wish I had kept Clark, Tago and Nanai.

I have Aitken. And Vailea lol. And will get Burton this week, who I had R1 but has been out of my side more than in.

Not starting with Hynes and choosing Mahoney over Cook for reasons that seemed sensible at the time will haunt me. I think that's essentially the difference between a bad and good season.

robelgordo wrote:

I have Aitken. And Vailea lol. And will get Burton this week, who I had R1 but has been out of my side more than in.

Not starting with Hynes and choosing Mahoney over Cook for reasons that seemed sensible at the time will haunt me. I think that's essentially the difference between a bad and good season.

My top three are trading out Burton for Talakai, falling for both Tass and Peoples and the Elliott debacle.

White Lightning wrote:I was watching some of the swimming heats last night...I watched & watched & not 1 Kiwi swimmer in any of the heats which btw were dominated by Aussie...you would think yes NZ is surrounded by water so NZ  should be quite good at swimming but we aren't.

It's not the being surrounded by water that stops Kiwis being good at swimming, it's that your government doesn't throw literally millions of dollars into a commonwealth elite training centre and program in order to identify and then prepare swimmers for some sense of national pride based on swimming achievements.
If you ever look up the cost of an Olympic gold medal and which countries "invest" the most dollars into winning - Australia is right up at the pointy end. 
The ongoing narrative about our small (relatively) population compared to the 'big countries' like China, USA and Russia etc. is simplistic as it fails to recognise the amount of financial and coaching support our elite athletes receive.

That said. I'm still super proud of our swimmers at the ComGames.  

filthridden wrote:

My top three are trading out Burton for Talakai, falling for both Tass and Peoples and the Elliott debacle.

I went Burton as part of getting Cleary, and I think that was a reasonable decision at the time. I would feel more gross if it was for Talakia

Also fell for Peoples, plus Matamua, which are terrible, but not sure they cost me that much.

Whereas by the time I got Hynes in R6 it cost me a few hundred points, a trade, but also 300k. I shudder to think what I could've done with 300k more team value. Haven't even bothered working out Mahoney v Cook, but it'll be bad

filthridden wrote:I have four survivors from round 1, five if you count bringing Burton back in.

Randall
Haas, Bullemor, Utoikamanu
Fifita, Tuilagi
Schneider, Ilias
Burton, Aitken
Hynes, Papenhuyzen, Crichton

Nanai, Sexton, Mann, MKing

Vailea, Coates, EClark, Tago

Wish I had kept Clark, Tago and Nanai.

I only have four survivors from round 1 and a further two that I sold and brought back. I got some calls right (starting with Munster over Hughes, starting with Ipap over Angus Crichton, buying Cook in round 5 instead of Grant) but some horribly wrong (selling Teddy and not starting with Hynes, starting with and captaining Cheese in round 1 etc.)

Cheese
Haas, Ipap, JKing
Fifita, Bullemor
Munster, Schneider
Tago, Penisini
Teddy, Papy, Critta

Randall, MKing, Tuilagi, Coates

Ilias, Russell, Billy Smith, Vailea

The Bludger#2 wrote:
It's not the being surrounded by water that stops Kiwis being good at swimming, it's that your government doesn't throw literally millions of dollars into a commonwealth elite training centre and program in order to identify and then prepare swimmers for some sense of national pride based on swimming achievements.
If you ever look up the cost of an Olympic gold medal and which countries "invest" the most dollars into winning - Australia is right up at the pointy end. 
The ongoing narrative about our small (relatively) population compared to the 'big countries' like China, USA and Russia etc. is simplistic as it fails to recognise the amount of financial and coaching support our elite athletes receive.

That said. I'm still super proud of our swimmers at the ComGames.  

Bingo

NZ, Canada etc. don't throw shitloads of public money at winning medals.

I mean Australia would be pretty good at swimming anyway, because we have the climate and facilities and yes, lots of kids do squad swimming as a result. But there's a big investment and it gets even more absurd in more niche sports. e.g. we identify and convert elite but not quite world class junior athletes into winter Olympians in technical events with small talent pools like freestyle aerial skiing and womens skeleton.

EDIT: it's sports where Olympics aren't the focus too. At Wimbledon, UK hope Cam Norrie originally represented NZ but didn't get public funding, so used his parents UK citizenship instead. Fair enough as tennis is an expensive sport and unless you're in the top 70-100 or so you're not making much. Aus elite junior tennis players don't have that issue.

Parra going to name Moses on the extended bench or something   shouldn't be that hard to give an update

Khany wrote:Parra going to name Moses on the extended bench or something   shouldn't be that hard to give an update

Good news is they play early in the round, bad news is if they leave it til the last minute they play after Reynolds, Teddy, and Munster lock, the three main options I'd trade him to.

robelgordo wrote:

Bingo

NZ, Canada etc. don't throw shitloads of public money at winning medals.

I mean Australia would be pretty good at swimming anyway, because we have the climate and facilities and yes, lots of kids do squad swimming as a result. But there's a big investment and it gets even more absurd in more niche sports. e.g. we identify and convert elite but not quite world class junior athletes into winter Olympians in technical events with small talent pools like freestyle aerial skiing and womens skeleton.

EDIT: it's sports where Olympics aren't the focus too. At Wimbledon, UK hope Cam Norrie originally represented NZ but didn't get public funding, so used his parents UK citizenship instead. Fair enough as tennis is an expensive sport and unless you're in the top 70-100 or so you're not making much. Aus elite junior tennis players don't have that issue.

Having immediate family represent Australia in ‘niche sports’ (equestrian and javelin/discus) one at multiple Olympics, winning a bronze. They get between $0 and fuck all financial support.