NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

my tv broke wrote:Yeah my bad.

All good mate, your posts made a lot of sense. Just felt the discussion had run it's course when it's one person vs everyone else and no advice is being asked for.

rhinoceroo wrote:Just noticed Angus Crichton, Nathan Brown and Dylan Napa have been named in the Roosters NSW Cup side this week. Didn't even realise Napa was back.

Add Corey Allan and it's 4 origin reps. They can't keep getting away with this

After Cheese, Warbrick & Hopgood > Grant, Couchman & Russell

27 trades remaining & 46k itb

Grant (vc)
Tapine Carrigan Ford
Katoa Hosking
Cleary (c) Burton
Holmes Alamoti
Miller Walsh Tedesco

Turbo Preston Couchman Blore* (loop for this round)
Luke Russell AKP HSS

Im struggling to work out how to get Hynes in which ideally i can do next round. Ideally id keep Tapine/Carrigan but it may be the only means i have to get Hynes. Alamoti is a bit of an issue too! Im stumped to be honest.

GreenSchist wrote:

Love the first one. JMK is great over the Origin period and Haas is the best player of those 4.
McInnes easily may lose minutes in 2-3 weeks when Finucane returns.

In games played without Rudolf last year McInnes averaged 61 minutes. Even when playing off the bench, with Finucane at lock, he got a 60 minute average.

None of the guys outside of Rudolf, McInnes, Finucane play big minutes.

BHU averaged 39 minutes when starting prop last season.
Hunt averaged 30 minutes when starting prop.

When Finucane is back, even if he is moved back to the bench, he probably comes on after 20 minutes and plays the game out.

Have made a minor change to my trades this week
Figured I can go BMM to Cheese, instead of Alamoti to Bird.
Plan is still very much to get Bird in for Origin but figure any small price rise he experiences can be offset by another week or two of (minor) price rises to Alamoti and Warbrick.
Cheese provides some much needed Hooker cover so I’m not forced to trade Grant to Robson on the Storm bye and can wait till Rd 13.

This week I'm bringing in Haas. I'm no longer waiting for that low game that is never going to happen.

Hopgood and Uto to Haas and maybe Hess - I'm not sold on Hess yet

Papadontbleach wrote:This week I'm bringing in Haas. I'm no longer waiting for that low game that is never going to happen.  

Hopgood and Uto to Haas and maybe Hess - I'm not sold on Hess yet

Surely you can do better than Hess? I would rather go for Soni Luke than him, and bank the money.

If you want someone in that price range and don't already have Lemuelu then get him, or get Cheese if you want hooker cover.

The last 3 week Shark punt worked out well. Happy to give it another crack

t43597 wrote:After Cheese, Warbrick & Hopgood > Grant, Couchman & Russell

27 trades remaining & 46k itb

Grant (vc)
Tapine Carrigan Ford
Katoa Hosking
Cleary (c) Burton
Holmes Alamoti
Miller Walsh Tedesco

Turbo Preston Couchman Blore* (loop for this round)
Luke Russell AKP HSS

Im struggling to work out how to get Hynes in which ideally i can do next round. Ideally id keep Tapine/Carrigan but it may be the only means i have to get Hynes. Alamoti is a bit of an issue too! Im stumped to be honest.

I always find it amusing when some see a player as a buy this week and others see Cheese as a sell. I can definitely see both sides of the argument in this example.

Bethany_B wrote:

Surely you can do better than Hess? I would rather go for Soni Luke than him, and bank the money.

If you want someone in that price range and don't already have Lemuelu then get him, or get Cheese if you want hooker cover.

I need Mid cover and I need someone playable.

Possibly Cheese, I feel like he'll improve. I could cash down to Couchman. I need to think about it.

Milchcow wrote:

Happy to hold. He suffered last week because he moved to wing mid game to cover Addo-Carr

Just hold him until can upgrade him to a long term option just before his bye

Yea mid depth is probably more important to me so cheers for the feedback, Arey it is

Bethany_B wrote:

Surely you can do better than Hess? I would rather go for Soni Luke than him, and bank the money.

If you want someone in that price range and don't already have Lemuelu then get him, or get Cheese if you want hooker cover.

Soni Luke who is averaging 10pts less than Hess? Who has a highest score this year 15pts less than Hess? Who's historical ceiling is less than half that of Hess?

Cheese is also scoring lower than Hess for what it's worth. Connelly isn't a bad shout, but people are short on MIDs and HOKs not EDG.

If the money saving is the only factor, just trade out to a base price cashie and hope for the best.

mattnz wrote:

I always find it amusing when some see a player as a buy this week and others see Cheese as a sell.  I can definitely see both sides of the argument in this example.

Im not entirely opposed to keeping him but i cant go any longer with him as my number 1 hooker. If i could find another way to get Grant but keep the Cheese i probably would.

mattnz wrote:

In games played without Rudolf last year McInnes averaged 61 minutes. Even when playing off the bench, with Finucane at lock, he got a 60 minute average.

None of the guys outside of Rudolf, McInnes, Finucane play big minutes.

BHU averaged 39 minutes when starting prop last season.
Hunt averaged 30 minutes when starting prop.

When Finucane is back, even if he is moved back to the bench, he probably comes on after 20 minutes and plays the game out.

This was my conclusion about mcinnes but without the data

Think it’s his time to shine

mattnz wrote:

I always find it amusing when some see a player as a buy this week and others see Cheese as a sell.  I can definitely see both sides of the argument in this example.

Yeah mindset is a crazy thing, if I’d started with Cheese I’d probably be wanting to flog him out first chance but having not started with him and running the gauntlet of no HOK cover he looks a decent in for me. Especially considering Hopgood and BMM are gone out of my team this week his DPP suits my team makeup well. Hopefully he’s bottomed out.

SoylentGreen wrote:

Soni Luke who is averaging 10pts less than Hess? Who has a highest score this year 15pts less than Hess? Who's historical ceiling is less than half that of Hess?

Cheese is also scoring lower than Hess for what it's worth. Connelly isn't a bad shout, but people are short on MIDs and HOKs not EDG.

If the money saving is the only factor, just trade out to a base price cashie and hope for the best.

Soni Luke has ramped his minutes up and now seems good for at least 40-45 mins a game, potentially 50-55 if Kenny plays more middle minutes. He's also starting to find his groove in attack, and Penrith are starting to trample teams.

Cheese isn't doing amazingly but if semi-playable MID/HOK cover is what you want, he'll do alright.

The saved money could be used to get a gun MID in later (I'm targeting Tapine in R9 for example)

Bethany_B wrote:

Soni Luke has ramped his minutes up and now seems good for at least 40-45 mins a game, potentially 50-55 if Kenny plays more middle minutes. He's also starting to find his groove in attack, and Penrith are starting to trample teams.

Cheese isn't doing amazingly but if semi-playable MID/HOK cover is what you want, he'll do alright.

The saved money could be used to get a gun MID in later (I'm targeting Tapine in R9 for example)

Hmmm maybe Luke is an option after all. The two try assists and still only scoring in the 30s has me worried for a hooker. Doesn’t seem to tackle much

mattnz wrote:

In games played without Rudolf last year McInnes averaged 61 minutes. Even when playing off the bench, with Finucane at lock, he got a 60 minute average.

None of the guys outside of Rudolf, McInnes, Finucane play big minutes.

BHU averaged 39 minutes when starting prop last season.
Hunt averaged 30 minutes when starting prop.

When Finucane is back, even if he is moved back to the bench, he probably comes on after 20 minutes and plays the game out.

So how do we think it breaks down?
Sharks have generally stuck pretty close to 100 mins off the bench for their forwards rotation.

Kaufusi = 38 min average, no doubt this could eat into Hunts mins a bit.

Graham will get his 20-25 mins

That leaves McInnes closer to 50, maybe 55.
Maybe it is 60 mins. I think the point people need to consider is that it is not clear and there is risk associated with a trade in.

Bethany_B wrote:

Soni Luke has ramped his minutes up and now seems good for at least 40-45 mins a game, potentially 50-55 if Kenny plays more middle minutes. He's also starting to find his groove in attack, and Penrith are starting to trample teams.

Cheese isn't doing amazingly but if semi-playable MID/HOK cover is what you want, he'll do alright.

The saved money could be used to get a gun MID in later (I'm targeting Tapine in R9 for example)

Soni Luke’s mins have correlated to open and blowout vs tight games

Gets lower mins in tight games (R1, R4 - HIA affected but came on with 30 mins left). Higher mins in R2 (Kenny HIA affected, R6)

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
Hmmm maybe Luke is an option after all. The two try assists and still only scoring in the 30s has me worried for a hooker. Doesn’t seem to tackle much

That’s a good point, the better one is his 45 mins for 20 points. I’d rather punt on Crossland for an extra fiddy k.