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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 39 - Host is still playable, right?

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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:58 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Cotter maybe, Nanai I think next to no chance

    People seem so high on Cotter playing Origin but reality he's played ONE game for them, and they won the series without him?

    Think odds are that Carrigan is starting 13, Cotter has been in a struggling team (and himself tbh)

    No one really knows but Billy, but if he rewards form (as he did with Cotter in game 1), I wouldn't be shocked if Fifita and Horse make the team ahead of them

    Disclaimer: I do not have nor intend to buy Cotter until I see the Origin teams announced

    Played 80 at lock with Carrigan coming off the bench at prop, Papa and Collins low minutes in a winning team. Was clearly a key player in their plans, along with the other big minute guys, Carrigan and Tino. Only injury kept him out.
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    Post by Mando Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:59 pm

    Carty and Loiero to bula and hynes is rather tempting.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:01 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Worth noting that if you have Robson (the premium 13/16 hooker), you can't also play Granville in R13. Maybe you can in R16 if he gets DPP (no guarantee based on the first lot of DPPs given)


    So you get a couple good scores, then some potential 20s when Taumalolo gets back. Then maybe a good usable score in R16 (depending on origin make up and what sort of role Granville gets)
    Might not even make much money by the time you sell depending on what he does in a full strength team

    He's basically a cashout with potential upside. But really if you wanted him you had to move 1-2 weeks ago.

    Granville likely scores maybe 10 points less than Robson in 13 and 16, for $400k less and get the cash upside the next few weeks. Is the best cash cow available at the moment.
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    Post by Ando Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:06 pm

    Jeez these Thursday's come around quick, trying to catch up on the thread before kick off. Good luck to all of those pushing the monthly!
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    Post by robelgordo Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:09 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Surprised to not see Gutho mentioned as an alternative to Drinkwater. I trust his scoring way more and if Moses misses time you get a huge boost in scoring

    Have considered. Just seems at value, whereas Drinky is potentially underpriced at 50k less and has a slightly better schedule (R15 bye easier to navigate than R14)
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    Post by GreenSchist Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:11 pm

    The Goat Boys wrote:All those bringing in Brandon Smith this week.

    Just note that he played an extra 10 mins this week then he generally will.

    He got subbed off and victor radley went to hooker, pretty well straight after that radley got binned and the roosters were forced to bring cheese  back on as they had no hooker.
    Well there is every chance Radley gets binned every week…
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:12 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Are you keeping Host mate?
    Yeah bit of sunk cost fallacy with it 

    The option of Host + Manu + extra trade used I went with actually heavily outscored TPJ + Alamoti which was my alternative (as I played IKatoa) and the reason I bought as R13 EDG hasn’t really changed 

    The issue is the stunted cash gen but someone like Luki might not be a bad straight swap if Host has ghosted R13


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    Post by mickspicks Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:12 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Granville likely scores maybe 10 points less than Robson in 13 and 16, for $400k less and get the cash upside the next few weeks. Is the best cash cow available at the moment.

    That's a bit of a stretch. Robson has hit 70+ three times this season. He is down about 10 tackles a game at the moment and about 2 misses per game and not running as much (due to forwards not getting quick ptb). It won't take much for him to covert to 60s, whilst Granny won't take much to revert to 20s.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:16 pm

    mickspicks wrote:

    That's a bit of a stretch. Robson has hit 70+ three times this season. He is down about 10 tackles a game at the moment and about 2 misses per game and not running as much (due to forwards not getting quick ptb). It won't take much for him to covert to 60s, whilst Granny won't take much to revert to 20s.

    Granville averaging 40 in his big minute role the last couple of weeks. Robson more 30s and 40s than 70s. Wouldnt want to be paying $700k+ for a guy that is going to have lots of 30s and 40s when I can get that for $300k.
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    Post by Shady2K Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:18 pm

    Camo123 wrote:
    Yeah bit of sunk cost fallacy with it 

    The option of Host + Manu I went with actually heavily outscored TPJ + Alamoti which was my alternative (as I played IKatoa) and the reason I bought as R13 EDG hasn’t really changed 

    The issue is the stunted cash gen

    Yeah, probably the safe play

    I’m tempted to flip to Granville, but it’s not like a new cow won’t come along eventually

    And getting Granville then makes Robson an awkward target down the track too

    Maybe I’ll play smart instead of balls to the wall for once
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    Post by mickspicks Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:19 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Granville averaging 40 in his big minute role the last couple of weeks. Robson more 30s and 40s than 70s.

    Lolo about 4 weeks away, Luki 2 weeks away...
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    Post by The Goat Boys Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:20 pm

    After letting people know about B Smith, I now think I will be trading him in. Alamoti, Warbrick, Katoa to JDB, Bsmith and Bula is too hard to pass up. Thoughts on these trades?
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    Post by robelgordo Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:21 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Granville likely scores maybe 10 points less than Robson in 13 and 16, for $400k less and get the cash upside the next few weeks. Is the best cash cow available at the moment.

    Think you're going to have to show your working on this one.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:22 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Granville averaging 40 in his big minute role the last couple of weeks. Robson more 30s and 40s than 70s. Wouldnt want to be paying $700k+ for a guy that is going to have lots of 30s and 40s when I can get that for $300k.

    Isn't the issue that you *can't* pay $700k and are constructing an argument to suit that fact?

    Robson is a top three season-keeper hooker with great byes. Granville isn't. It doesn't matter if you're paying premium if you can afford it.
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    Post by Ando Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:22 pm

    I don't think I'm onboard the Granville train. Didn't Payton only use 2 players off his bench last week? I can't see that being the norm moving forward.

    The two alternative cashout options I'm looking at are:

    Hands in the hope Hodgson's role is significantly reduced after his performance last week

    Sele who passed the eye test for me last week and will hopefully pick minutes up over Origin if Cook/Murray/Arrow are out
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:22 pm

    mickspicks wrote:

    Lolo about 4 weeks away, Luki 2 weeks away...

    Lolo 4 weeks away, then Cotter plays Origin.

    Luki plays EDG, so they can dump Gosi
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    Post by Ando Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:23 pm

    Alternatively I skip De Belin and just get Horsburgh in 1 trade instead. Just not sure I can trust Sticky
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    Post by GreenSchist Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:24 pm

    The Goat Boys wrote:After letting people know about B Smith, I now think I will be trading him in. Alamoti, Warbrick, Katoa to JDB, Bsmith and Bula is too hard to pass up. Thoughts on these trades?
    Alamoti and Warbrick appear maxed so no issue shifting them on.
    Trades look solid.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:24 pm

    Ando wrote:I don't think I'm onboard the Granville train. Didn't Payton only use 2 players off his bench last week? I can't see that being the norm moving forward.

    The two alternative cashout options I'm looking at are:

    Hands in the hope Hodgson's role is significantly reduced after his performance last week

    Sele who passed the eye test for me last week and will hopefully pick minutes up over Origin if Cook/Murray/Arrow are out  

    Its a similar situation to Eels at the start of the season, Payten plays the guys he can trust.
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