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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 2

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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:55 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    I'm into sc this year & most on the sc sites think he'll play 60-65 minutes. But even they're divided on McGuire & have the same views as yourself mate & can't see much upside with him. However lately I see him in more teams.

    I'd say though that a move from prop to lock is much less attractive in SC than in Fantasy, due to the extra points for hitups helping FRF scoring.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:56 pm

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    My main concern is still: Is he good enough for my 17th player or do I need to plan my team with another reserve?
    IMO easily good enough for a start to season reserve mate
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:59 pm

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    Nah first year playing mate. Do we even have a sc thread here. Actually I think I played it 3-4 years ago but I wasn't serious & only spent 5 mins a week on it.

    We sure do, it racked up 1.5 pages for the entire 2016 season Rolling Laugh

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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:01 pm

    Since they removed all the dpp's for frf/2frf none of the 2fr guns really inspire me except for Surgess. JDB, Mannering, Merrin too expensive & their price will drop. Gallen is injury prone. Not interested in Whitehead or J-Trbo. I think the only ones that could maintain their average are Cordner, B. Thompson, Cartwright, Harris. I do like Buhrer/Barnett  as I think they'll make 100 tackles a game but I have Sione. After that price range it's pretty bare. Dare I say it Aubusson playing 80 mins in a much better 2017 Roosters looks good.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:02 pm

    Welshy wrote:Myself and Bullbender were well into SC year before last, I was top 25 for a long while

    Was that the same year you told me not to trade in Radradra before he went big? Salt
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:03 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    IMO easily good enough for a start to season reserve mate

    Thanks mate, I think so too assuming he is starting, just needed some reassurance.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:04 pm

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    Was that the same year you told me not to trade in Radradra before he went big? Salt

    It was

    something along the lines of

    there is no way Semi can keep scoring tries and 80m TB runs like he has the last few games....

    semi then proceeds to avg around 70 ish fo he next few games lol! lol!
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:06 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    I'd say though that a move from prop to lock is much less attractive in SC than in Fantasy, due to the extra points for hitups helping FRF scoring.

    In sc McGuire has a ppm of 1.00 in 2016 so they assume 65 mins is an easy 65 points.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:08 pm

    mulvy wrote:

    Thanks mate, I think so too assuming he is starting, just needed some reassurance.

    Start of season a 3rd/4th reserve scoring 25+ which should be easily attainable (for a starting half) is more than enough IMO
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:12 pm

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    We sure do, it racked up 1.5 pages for the entire 2016 season Rolling Laugh

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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:13 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    In sc McGuire has a ppm of 1.00 in 2016 so they assume 65 mins is an easy 65 points.

    Yeah, but my gut feel (and I don't play SC seriously so it's just gut) is that there's a bigger difference between FRF and 2RF ppms in SC than there is in Fantasy because of the extra points for hitups in SC (which favours props).
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:14 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Bren wrote:

    Was that the same year you told me not to trade in Radradra before he went big? Salt

    It was

    something along the lines of

    there is no way Semi can keep scoring tries and 80m TB runs like he has the last few games....

    semi then proceeds to avg around 70 ish fo he next few games lol! lol!

    I did that to the Bin Dipper as well last year with SKD. Probably the most objective and mathematically sound post I have ever made. Turned out to be the worst one as well! Poor Liverpool left SKD out and the bloke went and scored 3 50 odds in a row or something, and a 70 or something not long after as well.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:16 pm

    SI wrote:

    I did that to the Bin Dipper as well last year with SKD.  Probably the most objective and mathematically sound post I have ever made.  Turned out to be the worst one as well!  Poor Liverpool left SKD out and the bloke went and scored 3 50 odds in a row or something, and a 70 or something not long after as well.

    You Beating Heart the bin dipper brush I tarred Liverpool with don't you Very Happy

    You feel bad at the time making suggestions which blow up like this, but It ain't half funny looking back on them after the dust settles.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:19 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    Yeah, but my gut feel (and I don't play SC seriously so it's just gut) is that there's a bigger difference between FRF and 2RF ppms in SC than there is in Fantasy because of the extra points for hitups in SC (which favours props).

    Yeah sc even has different points for a hit up before & after 8 metres I think. That's why you don't see J. Graham in many teams because most of his hit ups he passes like a half before the defensive line & doesn't actually hit the line with his hit up. Sometimes it's very confusing spending most of the day on sc forums & then trying to adjust my thinking to fantasy haha. The lines get blurred.
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:20 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Start of season a 3rd/4th reserve scoring 25+ which should be easily attainable (for a starting half) is more than enough IMO

    By that logic, King is a reasonable option as a reserve. Yes I know risky, only two player position, hard to upgrade, injury prone, sucks if CS9 goes down etc etc, but if trials show King going okay then he would be a reasonable choice as reserve?
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:20 pm

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    You  Beating Heart  the bin dipper brush I tarred Liverpool with don't you Very Happy

    You feel bad at the time making suggestions which blow up like  this, but It ain't half funny looking back on them after the dust settles.

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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:22 pm

    Gee the way we're going boys we should reach the page 51 party in a couple of days. It's been very busy on here considering there's 5-6 weeks to go. Loving it.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:27 pm

    mulvy wrote:

    By that logic, King is a reasonable option as a reserve. Yes I know risky, only two player position, hard to upgrade, injury prone, sucks if CS9 goes down etc etc, but if trials show King going okay then he would be a reasonable choice as reserve?

    Brad Arthur has said he wants to play an 80 minute hooker & that hooker is King so he should score 40-50 I reckon if he doesn't get injured which is possible based on his history. I have him & hope in a way Sege doesn't sign with the Sharks cause then I can put Mortimer (dpp hok/hlf) in the halves as insurance if King goes down.
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    Post by Mr Fernando Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:29 pm

    Is Gallen gonna be available at prop?
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:32 pm

    mulvy wrote:

    By that logic, King is a reasonable option as a reserve. Yes I know risky, only two player position, hard to upgrade, injury prone, sucks if CS9 goes down etc etc, but if trials show King going okay then he would be a reasonable choice as reserve?

    Difference with someone like King is he is in a position which is tricky because there are only 2 position places (1 if you never sway from captain Cam) and if he stinks its a tough hole to get out of especially which his starting price so low, usually means big face-lifts elsehwhere in your team to correct it! Much more manoeuvrability in say the FRF or 2RF where you have extra spots to move guys around

    decent choice if he starts and goes okay, very bad if he is scott moore

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