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    Post by Pookus McFly Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:05 pm

    Decided to make a King team of my own. Still hankering on Seggy news though.

    Smith, King
    McGuire, Daifiti, Gurgess, Wallace
    Surgess, Bolton, Kbrom, Aloiai, L.Leilua, Capewell
    Norman, Johnson, Elgey, Hinago
    SMat Idris, Moga, Scott
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Pythian, Jennings
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:08 pm


    Bit late to the trade Talk, but I think the should list the number of trades, in conjunction with introducing a wild card.

    Wild card would be good fun. A lot of people would be tempted to use it early to try and get the bid cash cows in, but would be real value for anyone who could hold off until just before origin finishes.
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    Post by No Worries Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:12 pm

    mulvy wrote:Bring on the dog fucking


    There was a poster on here called Top Dog. Maybe you could root him.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:14 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:Decided to make a King team of my own. Still hankering on Seggy news though.

    Smith, King
    McGuire, Daifiti, Gurgess, Wallace
    Surgess, Bolton, Kbrom, Aloiai, L.Leilua, Capewell
    Norman, Johnson, Elgey, Hinago
    SMat Idris, Moga, Scott
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Pythian, Jennings

    As much as a King team looks the goods, I just don't see him starting for the Eels and even being relevant at the seasons start anyway. So I have edged away from creating teams with King as second hooker

    Love that back 5 and halves combo
    I would personally look to downgrade Gurgess/Wallace and upgrade Bolton into someone more substantial, love KBrom and Aloiai picks and LucyL could be decent cow
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:16 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    HOK: Have been playing with some King teams lately, gives so much bulk to the rest of the pack. Still do not think I am the man to take the plunge though.
    FRF: I'm not sold on Vaughan, feel free to convince me. I just can't see him doing anything he wasn't already doing at the Raiders.
    2RF: I agree that SMat is a good pick, but if you think this, then surely he is far more useful to you at CTR? I guess you could always trade him there later on. I just like the safety of thinking he will gun it in a tricky position and give me one less thing to worry about. Plenty of other mid-range talent in the second row this year.
    HLF: solid enough, I have had Hodkinson in and out of my team. But lately the Knights seem in such shambles, I don't want to bring any backs in this year so I have gone cold. Could still be a genius move though.
    CTR: I like all these undervalued picks individually, but you are already taking a gamble with Idris so why run with Kahu too? They could both stink it up big time in the centres leaving you with little base value to fix the hole. I would move SMat to CTR instead of Kahu and someone like Aloiai (assuming he gets a starting role) into the second row instead.
    WFB: All good hear, I really like the French pick. RTS and Hayne just about a must, but most ppl seem to go with Teddy, Holmes or Slater as their third (I chose Holmes myself). French might be a good little POD who plays all bye rounds.

    Sorry man, didn't mean to sound overly critical. reading back I sound like a jerk haha. I actually really like your team, is similar to my own (build #17865) in many ways. Good job cheer

    I think I'm willing to take a punt on King.

    Vaughan I was unconvinced by too, but a couple of people on here reckon he'll step up this year, so I've come around to the idea. IMO the raiders pack was way better than the dragons current pack, so he's probably got a bit more opportunity this season.

    SMat is in 2rf because I don't see much value in the sub 250k range in that position, while I reckon kahu could go well. Also like Milne in the CTRs but not sure how the dragons backs will line up.

    Other than Norman, I'm not excited about any halfs, so I'm ok taking a punt on hodko
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:19 pm

    No Worries wrote:


    There was a poster on here called Top Dog. Maybe you could root him.

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    Post by No Worries Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:19 pm

    Don't hold your breath on Seggy. ESL release a player for a $$$ and don't pay player contracts who have left.Included in cap or not Sharks are prepared to run a Hooker & Dan Mortimer or 2nd hooker to cover the 80 than pay
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    Post by RandomSil Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:21 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:Decided to make a King team of my own. Still hankering on Seggy news though.

    Smith, King
    McGuire, Daifiti, Gurgess, Wallace
    Surgess, Bolton, Kbrom, Aloiai, L.Leilua, Capewell
    Norman, Johnson, Elgey, Hinago
    SMat Idris, Moga, Scott
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Pythian, Jennings

    Your write up made me want to do one.

    HOK: Aside from Seggy coming in I think this is the best HOK combination to start with as it doesnt compromise the rest of your team.

    FRF: I am not sold on McGuire getting a bump in minutes or a bump in workrate like everyone believes he is going to. (Not that he isnt gun level.) I just dont think he makes it to that god like tier. Also not sold on the amount of minutes Wallace would get but I am leaning towards him.

    2RF: What are peoples thoughts on Bolton? I mean are his minutes or workrate going to change all that much. Like Tamou is gone and Bolton may start but are his minutes changing all that much from last year? Like wont they just trickle down so he gets Tamou minutes and benchies get his. (Not sure how big the difference between his and Tamous minutes were.)

    HLF: I am not big on investing much in the halfs to start the season. Particular Johnson who you could get at a cheaper rate elsewhere. Also Norman I am not sold on but everyone else is so he should be fine.

    CTR: One thing you mentioned is SMat is having him in the CTRs in your review. Personally there is more value in the CTRs than the 2RF at this stage. I would start him at 2RF and move him to the CTRs if he is a keeper. Does Moga even get a run at the Broncos with how packed the pecking order is. He couldnt get a run in the Cowboys even after some injuries iirc.

    WFB: No problems here a few doubts about Holmes but he should be decent. Especially with no Barba for half the season.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:26 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    As much as a King team looks the goods, I just don't see him starting for the Eels and even being relevant at the seasons start anyway. So I have edged away from creating teams with King as second hooker

    Love that back 5 and halves combo
    I would personally look to downgrade Gurgess/Wallace and upgrade Bolton into someone more substantial, love KBrom and Aloiai picks and LucyL could be decent cow

    Yeah I agree completely that King will be irrelevant. And I have already been outspoken about my dislike for basement priced hookers. Still fun to make a 'King' team though. I could call it a 'Cherrington' team if my dreams simply leant another direction. Thanks for the advice, I had been somewhat worried about my surplus of midrangers (the front from setup similar to a few of my drafts). Sub 450k though, pickings looks slim. Maybe ET or Guerra with Tauks out.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:35 pm

    No Worries wrote:Don't hold your breath on Seggy. ESL release a player for a $$$ and don't pay player contracts who have left.Included in cap or not Sharks are prepared to run a Hooker & Dan Mortimer or 2nd hooker to cover the 80 than pay

    I have a feeling this will be the case also, my Seg team dreams are quickly fading
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:38 pm

    Random wrote:

    Your write up made me want to do one.

    HOK: Aside from Seggy coming in I think this is the best HOK combination to start with as it doesnt compromise the rest of your team.

    FRF: I am not sold on McGuire getting a bump in minutes or a bump in workrate like everyone believes he is going to. (Not that he isnt gun level.) I just dont think he makes it to that god like tier. Also not sold on the amount of minutes Wallace would get but I am leaning towards him.

    2RF: What are peoples thoughts on Bolton? I mean are his minutes or workrate going to change all that much. Like Tamou is gone and Bolton may start but are his minutes changing all that much from last year? Like wont they just trickle down so he gets Tamou minutes and benchies get his. (Not sure how big the difference between his and Tamous minutes were.)

    HLF: I am not big on investing much in the halfs to start the season. Particular Johnson who you could get at a cheaper rate elsewhere. Also Norman I am not sold on but everyone else is so he should be fine.

    CTR: One thing you mentioned is SMat is having him in the CTRs in your review. Personally there is more value in the CTRs than the 2RF at this stage. I would start him at 2RF and move him to the CTRs if he is a keeper. Does Moga even get a run at the Broncos with how packed the pecking order is. He couldnt get a run in the Cowboys even after some injuries iirc.

    WFB: No problems here a few doubts about Holmes but he should be decent. Especially with no Barba for half the season.

    Tamou 46 Bolton 35. Moga I thought was going really well until he did his ACL. Would be stacks better than Benji imo
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:39 pm

    Panthers haven't haven't bought in any bench hookers?

    Peter Wallace avg is 47 playing 80mins at hooker. 21 game sample
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:45 pm

    Something different for you.

    Smith Luke
    Woods Gurgess Musgrove Perrett
    ET KBrom SMat Aloiai Knight Stimpson
    Norman Austin Elgey Hingano
    TTrbo Idris Kelly Scott
    Tedesco RTS Hayne Phythian RJennings

    15k left over.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:46 pm

    Random wrote:
    Your write up made me want to do one.

    HOK: Aside from Seggy coming in I think this is the best HOK combination to start with as it doesnt compromise the rest of your team.

    FRF: I am not sold on McGuire getting a bump in minutes or a bump in workrate like everyone believes he is going to. (Not that he isnt gun level.) I just dont think he makes it to that god like tier. Also not sold on the amount of minutes Wallace would get but I am leaning towards him.

    2RF: What are peoples thoughts on Bolton? I mean are his minutes or workrate going to change all that much. Like Tamou is gone and Bolton may start but are his minutes changing all that much from last year? Like wont they just trickle down so he gets Tamou minutes and benchies get his. (Not sure how big the difference between his and Tamous minutes were.)

    HLF: I am not big on investing much in the halfs to start the season. Particular Johnson who you could get at a cheaper rate elsewhere. Also Norman I am not sold on but everyone else is so he should be fine.

    CTR: One thing you mentioned is SMat is having him in the CTRs in your review. Personally there is more value in the CTRs than the 2RF at this stage. I would start him at 2RF and move him to the CTRs if he is a keeper. Does Moga even get a run at the Broncos with how packed the pecking order is. He couldnt get a run in the Cowboys even after some injuries iirc.

    WFB: No problems here a few doubts about Holmes but he should be decent. Especially with no Barba for half the season.

    I too have been unconvinced by McGuire :/ . I would rather Jommich, but I already got Krommich. I can't carry that with Surgess and Gurgess!

    Yeah Bolton may not be a great pick, but he is staying in my team. My Mrs went to school with him. Closest six degrees of seperation I have to an NRL player. He is the mascot of my team, really.

    I am actually struggling to find a lot of value in the halves. Well at least some without massive floors to match their ceilings. I have so little confidence in anyone priced below 400k I was thinking I might just play it safe and choose two guns.

    I agree there is a lot of value in the CTR (Soylent mentioned Milne before, if he gets into the 17 he will push somebody out of my squad for certain). I just don't like to mess with my centres too much. But If I am taking a risk with Idris, I want someone I am more confident of being an established gun in the other spot. SMat has the highest prospect for the lowest price IMO (unless Milne enters, as mentioned)

    Haha you caught my with my Moga showing. Yeah just wanted some different POD nuffies from the other teams man. You got me, but I regret nothing.

    Cheers for the input.


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    Post by lewis9966 Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:47 pm

    Welshy wrote:Panthers haven't haven't bought in any bench hookers?

    Peter Wallace avg is 47 playing 80mins at hooker. 21 game sample

    mitch rein??
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:48 pm

    lewis9966 wrote:

    mitch rein??

    Ahhh horseshit!

    great call.
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:53 pm

    lewis9966 wrote:

    mitch rein??

    Oh yeah, that guy! Forgot about him too
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:55 pm

    Bren wrote:Something different for you.

    Smith 130 Luke 45-50
    Woods 45-50 Gurgess 35-50 Musgrove 25-40 Perrett
    ET 45-52 KBrom 35-45 SMat 35-45 Aloiai 25-35 Knight Stimpson
    Norman 55-60 Austin 35-40 Elgey 30-35 Hingano
    TTrbo 40-50 Idris 25-40 Kelly Scott
    Tedesco 55 RTS 40-55 Hayne 35-55 Phythian RJennings

    15k left over.

    645 - 887 - avg 766
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    Post by Pookus McFly Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:56 pm

    Bren wrote:Something different for you.

    Smith Luke
    Woods Gurgess Musgrove Perrett
    ET KBrom SMat Aloiai Knight Stimpson
    Norman Austin Elgey Hingano
    TTrbo Idris Kelly Scott
    Tedesco RTS Hayne Phythian RJennings

    15k left over.

    I actually really like this team. TTrbo and Teddy give a little more firepower to the backs which most teams will not share, opting for the frugal option this year.
    And still plenty of high ceilings in the forwards. Just think you need to squeeze that ET into a legitimate gun for your second row somehow.

    ....but looking at the rest of the squad, I just can't see where you would possibly pinch those pennies. Taking from the the backs ruins the appeal of the team, and things are already just treading above skint in the forwards. Probably best as is.
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    Post by RandomSil Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:00 am

    mulvy wrote:

    Tamou 46 Bolton 35. Moga I thought was going really well until he did his ACL. Would be stacks better than Benji imo

    Just went through the Broncos and at the back we have now

    Oates, Kahu, Mead, (Center/Winger spot.)
    With Marshall, Seve, Moga, and Opacic all looking to fill that spot.

    I think Marshall will get first crack, but it actually makes Seve or Moga a real possibility this year and certainly over Origin.

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