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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 63

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    Post by danseels1985 Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:51 pm

    Moose wrote:
    Every team needs someone like Nathan Brown Love

    Not sure what pay packet he is on but seems to be earning every penny of it.

    Rumour is he is only on 170k at the moment which is bloody amazing for us and we are already in talks to extend him past next season. Quoted in the last day or two as saying he didn't see himself leaving Souths but now he's at Parra he wants to finish his career here. Please be true Circle Jerk
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    Post by Moose Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:52 pm

    danseels1985 wrote:

    Yeah it's my last trade,however if Munster is back then I don't necessarily need Teddy,I could trade either to Gillett or JTurbo? How does that sound? Would leave me with this team

    Smith McInnes
    Fifita/Taupau Brown Eisenhuth Fai
    Taumalolo JDB Gallen Crichton Surgess JTurbo/Gillett
    Pearce DCE NuBrown Hampton
    BJ Scott Fuimaono Kelly
    Munster Mansour Edwards Hayne Phythian
    How much cash do you have in the bank? Id look at trying to find a way to get Tedesco into your squad rather then hoping Mansour can score 45+ each round.
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    Post by danseels1985 Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:53 pm

    Moose wrote:
    How much cash do you have in the bank? Id look at trying to find a way to get Tedesco into your squad rather then hoping Mansour can score 45+ each round.


    58k,the only way I can do it is by dumping Fifita
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    Post by Clack Bocks Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:56 pm

    Spectre wrote: warriors need someone like Nathan Brown
    An absolute warrior constantly putting his hand up for the tough carries and working his ass off in defence
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    Post by code delta Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:57 pm

    danseels1985 wrote:With Munster seemingly back now should I dump Fifita for Teddy? Or dump Fifita or Taupau for Vaughan? Or do nothing lol

    How sure are we that Munster will play? Smile
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    Post by Chewie Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:05 pm

    This season has given us a bunch of new fantasy guns... thinking of Angus, Vaughan, NBrown, Cotric, Ponga, and DEdwards...
    Some honorable mentions go out to Hess, FKaufusi and JWallace... and Lamb doesn't do too bad when the Knights are winning. Lolohea has made himself at home at the Tigers, and Mitch Moses killed Norman.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:10 pm

    Any thoughts for my last trade lads.  Only got 12K so pretty much buggered.

    Smith McInnes
    Fifita Vaughan Taupau Yates
    Crichton Tolo JDB Surgess Brown Fui
    DCE Cleary Lolohea Laybutt
    Turbo Croker Cotric Isaako
    Edwards Rapa Slater Dufty Walker

    I wish I didn't have those 3 sitting in the centres.  Looking at maybe Lolohea or Slater to Nofo for some hardcore POD action.

    Also kind of wanting to get some DPP in the backs so I could play all three of my centres.  Not ideal to have one as a reserve.  Was thinking even something silly like Walker to a cheapie forward like CHN via DPP just to make the most of what I have and being able to play all three while having a 4 forward bench.  I could do something else and just play Cotric over Taupau I guess.

    Don't really have any money at all to do any worthwhile upgrades.
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    Post by SoylentGreen Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:41 pm

    Who gets benched from c.walker, McGuire or dufty?
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    Post by Honeysett Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:20 am

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    Sounds more like a coaching issue then....

    For what it's worth I think Browny is doing a great job and would be competent enough to manage his players

    I respectfully disagree that Blair is that type of player. He's never been known to roll his sleeves up unless everyone else is. He's not the one the young guys could turn to and inspire them. He's too much of a loose cannon for mine. He'd unsettle what we're building I'd feel.

    When he's in a winning pack and doesn't need to do more than required is when he looks a great player but we're not going to win more than we lose and he's going to have to be the one to drag us up. I don't think he can do that.

    As for it being a coaching issue, perhaps. There's been two coaches that have got Blair playing well. Bellamy and Bennett. Two of the best. Brown isn't there obviously and while I think he's a great coach and obviously well respected in Newcastle I would prefer he didn't have to devout too much time into getting Blair to be what we need. I'd rather that player want to step up for us.

    Graham is the pinnacle of what we could get. In an ideal world he comes to us, they out the hard word on him on NRL360. He wants to stay at the Dogs but when he was asked if someone came to him with a 3 or 4 year deal while the Dogs might not offer him one what would we do and he kinda hesitated a bit. He then said he'd like to say no, but what could you do.

    I'd wait and see what happens with Graham before going after someone else. If we miss out then so be it, wait until we get the right player. Which is what Brown has been doing so far.
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    Post by Honeysett Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:21 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:Who gets benched from c.walker, McGuire or dufty?

    Dufty will struggle against the Broncos you'd think.
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    Post by Welshy Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:00 am

    Honeysett wrote:

    I respectfully disagree that Blair is that type of player. He's never been known to roll his sleeves up unless everyone else is. He's not the one the young guys could turn to and inspire them. He's too much of a loose cannon for mine. He'd unsettle what we're building I'd feel.

    When he's in a winning pack and doesn't need to do more than required is when he looks a great player but we're not going to win more than we lose and he's going to have to be the one to drag us up. I don't think he can do that.

    As for it being a coaching issue, perhaps. There's been two coaches that have got Blair playing well. Bellamy and Bennett. Two of the best. Brown isn't there obviously and while I think he's a great coach and obviously well respected in Newcastle I would prefer he didn't have to devout too much time into getting Blair to be what we need. I'd rather that player want to step up for us.

    Graham is the pinnacle of what we could get. In an ideal world he comes to us, they out the hard word on him on NRL360. He wants to stay at the Dogs but when he was asked if someone came to him with a 3 or 4 year deal while the Dogs might not offer him one what would we do and he kinda hesitated a bit. He then said he'd like to say no, but what could you do.

    I'd wait and see what happens with Graham before going after someone else. If we miss out then so be it, wait until we get the right player. Which is what Brown has been doing so far.

    This I agree with.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:52 am

    Not a lot has changed with Blair since he swapped between Tigers and Broncos. Still does those 1%ers like chasing from marker, kick pressure, running decoys and shutting the gate as the A defender. Kind of stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. He is never going to be the prop that gives your 100 metres and 40 tackles every week but he will give you 50+ metres on high quality runs with quick play the balls and 20+ tackles that all hurt and make the opposition think twice about running in behind the ruck. The problem is the Tigers paid him like and expected him to be the main metre eater when he will never be anything more then a complimentary piece. Blair also brings something the Knights don't have, mongrel. You need someone to hit the kicker or ball player late after they go to the line to let them know you are coming. You need someone to back team mates up when someone gets put in a dangerous position. Blair would be a quality addition to the Knights pack as long as you know what to expect from him
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    Post by danseels1985 Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:40 am

    Taupau to Gagai a good idea to strengthen my CTRS?
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    Post by WT Winfield Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 am

    Why weaken one of the best positions to strengthen the absolute worst?

    Taupau's 35 and Gagai's 92 are in the books mate..
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:51 am

    Honeysett wrote:

    I respectfully disagree that Blair is that type of player. He's never been known to roll his sleeves up unless everyone else is. He's not the one the young guys could turn to and inspire them. He's too much of a loose cannon for mine. He'd unsettle what we're building I'd feel.

    When he's in a winning pack and doesn't need to do more than required is when he looks a great player but we're not going to win more than we lose and he's going to have to be the one to drag us up. I don't think he can do that.

    As for it being a coaching issue, perhaps. There's been two coaches that have got Blair playing well. Bellamy and Bennett. Two of the best. Brown isn't there obviously and while I think he's a great coach and obviously well respected in Newcastle I would prefer he didn't have to devout too much time into getting Blair to be what we need. I'd rather that player want to step up for us.

    Graham is the pinnacle of what we could get. In an ideal world he comes to us, they out the hard word on him on NRL360. He wants to stay at the Dogs but when he was asked if someone came to him with a 3 or 4 year deal while the Dogs might not offer him one what would we do and he kinda hesitated a bit. He then said he'd like to say no, but what could you do.

    I'd wait and see what happens with Graham before going after someone else. If we miss out then so be it, wait until we get the right player. Which is what Brown has been doing so far.

    And I respectively accept your differing opinion..........despite how blatantly incorrect it is Razz

    Look I've never been a Blair fanboy by any means but I can respect what he brings to a team and it is essentially what you earlier described i.e. a leader, both on and off the field that is a disciplined trainer (there would barely be a fitter prop in the comp).
    He also brings a genuine toughness that the young blokes look up to (and that is from the mouth of Bennett himself).

    I see your point regarding Bennett and Bellamy but on the flip side, his only other coaching experience was during a pretty tumultuous time at the Tigers when they were punting Sheens and bringing in Potter (but moving him on at the same time too).
    In fairness to Blair, I know he was paid pretty well during his time at the Tigers but geez that has cost him a fair bit in terms of reputation (and probably subsequent contracts also).
    It's only a small sample size over what has been a pretty bloody successful career but it appears to be the main thing that sticks in most people's minds.
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    Post by Stuffness Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:57 am

    Brock Lamb needs to slow the f&%k down. He'd be a handy cheap fantasy option next year but not if he keeps scoring like he is.
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    Post by WT Winfield Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:03 am

    If he wasn't scoring like he has the past 3 weeks (all with tries), it'd be the same as before and we'd have learned our lesson from this year.. hopefully.
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:04 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Really?

    McCullough
    Gillett
    McGuire
    Thaiday
    Sims

    Then boom rookies/youngsters Easy E and TPJ

    Top 3 would walk into 90% of packs in the league

    Yeah - and that's my point.

    At the start of the season, Macca was rated nowhere near where his is now (i.e. the next QLD hooker in line after Cam Smith).
    McGuire has had a big year and Sims was a discard looking for a 2nd chance.

    Our rookies were basically no names that are now being poached by other clubs.
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    Post by WT Winfield Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:08 am

    I wonder what Merrin's chances of playing are.. I have Leota as a potential bad AE, but Merrin could nix that if he plays.

    Hayne playing first sucks, want to leave him out and play both Munster and Leulia, but that AE risk..
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    Post by Stuffness Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:16 am

    Out of curiosity, what sort of ranking did people get during their first year of playing fantasy? Trying to decide if i should burn my last 2 trades now trying to get max points or hold them as injury cover to guarantee my league win.
    Sitting comfortably on top of my league with an average weekly point gap of 150 to the next best. It's worth noting that it's just a Fantasy Classic league so no bragging rights or anything to be gained, just a warm fuzzy feeling of smashing 15 teams all season hahaha.
    Personally i'd like to save the trades but i'm wondering if this is my inexperience holding me back.
    I'm thinking it's been a good go of a first year with cracking the 1k twice and currently ranked 3398 but i have nothing to compare this with to know if it is a good year or not.

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