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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 61 - Captain Teddy hype-train edition

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:59 am

    Fortitude wrote:If you're team is fairly average. You've wasted to many trades on Ctrs and missed the quality cows. Is it crazy to start considering trades like Haas out?

    My thought is. Haas (70av) and someone like JTB (37av) (sitting in my 18) would raise about 1.4m. I could get Hunt (50) and Twal(60av) for about that 1.4m.

    This would let me have a two decent players in my 17, rather than one awesome one and one average on outside of the 17.

    Its not ideal, but i need better balance across the team.


    3 extra points a week for 2 trades doesn't seem worth it to me
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    Post by wolfking Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:59 am

    Fortitude wrote:If you're team is fairly average. You've wasted to many trades on Ctrs and missed the quality cows. Is it crazy to start considering trades like Haas out?

    My thought is. Haas (70av) and someone like JTB (37av) (sitting in my 18) would raise about 1.4m. I could get Hunt (50) and Twal(60av) for about that 1.4m.

    This would let me have a two decent players in my 17, rather than one awesome one and one average on outside of the 17.

    Its not ideal, but i need better balance across the team.


    Matt has brought this thinking to light and is a big advocate of it.  I thought about it, but unless you have a lot of trades it's a punt, it obviously would give better team balance but you look last night at Crichton, if you get a few injuries, you may just be backing yourself in a corner.

    Bear in mind, your team may become more average if you trade out a player like Haas.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:03 am

    Was keen to bring McIntyre in but no longer that keen. Tough times for trading
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    Post by wolfking Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am

    WT2K wrote:Tigers players and staff cleared of covid
    https://twitter.com/Danny_Weidler/status/1283912191234551808?s=19

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    Post by Fortitude Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:06 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    3 extra points a week for 2 trades doesn't seem worth it to me

    Yeah i see this argument. But im not playing JTB. And it means i can drop Drinkwater out of my Hlfs as well.
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    Post by Mr peanutbutter Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:07 am

    Team for the week

    Grant
    Haas(c), MoFo
    Yeo, Leilua, Havilli
    Cleary, Hunt
    Best, Niu
    Ponga, Teddy, Pappy

    Koro, Brailey, Carrigan, Field
    Butcher, Luai, Hetherington, HTF

    Still not sure if I play Luai or Field on that final spot. And only 6 trades left but I do this every year. I just think of this as part 2 of fantasy. The shit part.
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    Post by wolfking Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:08 am

    Fortitude wrote:

    Yeah i see this argument. But im not playing JTB. And it means i can drop Drinkwater out of my Hlfs as well.

    If you need to take a risk and your gut says its worth it, then go for it mate. Don't let us deter you otherwise.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:11 am

    Fortitude wrote:

    Yeah i see this argument. But im not playing JTB. And it means i can drop Drinkwater out of my Hlfs as well.

    I assume that means you are playing someone you expect to score more than 37 each week?

    Assuming it's someone you think will average 40 currently in the 17, that means you are trading out Haas(70) to Twal(60) so that you can "upgrade" the 40 to Hunt(50). If it's someone like Fogarty in the 17 that I think will average closer to 45 then you are probably losing points and 2 trades.

    To me it seems sideways at worst, backwards at best
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:18 am

    WHY?:
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:18 am

    If i assume that Leilua and Butcher are season keepers for me. Hoping Butcher is straight back in next week obviously.

    Then I’ll look at doing something with Luai and Paix in the next two weeks to get myself a decent 18th man.
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    Post by Aardvark Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:19 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    I agree Havili wont be fantasy relevant because you could have got Starling who played same minutes and will score similar for over 100k cheaper.

    Havilli was great in 2018 but last year filling in for Hodgson he was pretty ho hum (similar to what happened yesterday). I had him last year and it was pretty much a waste of two trades.


    Edit : I didn't have him when he was good Very Happy on the plus side I was on the Rein Train both times it shot well past the station
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:30 am

    Aardvark wrote:

    Havilli was great in 2018 but last year filling in for Hodgson he was pretty ho hum (similar to what happened yesterday). I had him last year and it was pretty much a waste of two trades.


    Edit : I didn't have him when he was good Very Happy on the plus side I was on the Rein Train both times it shot well past the station

    To be fair Havili was only a waste of 2 trades last year because Hodgson came back early from injury, he can't really come back super early from an ACL

    Averaged 40 last year when he filled in for Hodgson
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    Post by Mr Snrub Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:34 am

    Just checked fantasy for the first time today. Of course they found 6 extra points for Teddy.

    No complaints, 60+ is a perfectly good captain's score even if Grant or Haas go higher.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:35 am

    What’s the best option for an 18th man?

    DPP? Boom capability?
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    Post by L-Jimmy Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:43 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:What’s the best option for an 18th man?

    DPP? Boom capability?

    CTR/FRF scoring either 15 or 85 each week playing late in the round with an amusing name that you can turn into a verb e.g. “I’m going to risk a little Drinky”
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:43 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:

    CTR/FRF scoring either 15 or 85 each week playing late in the round with an amusing name that you can turn into a verb e.g. “I’m going to risk a little Drinky”

    lol!
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    Post by Aardvark Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    To be fair Havili was only a waste of 2 trades last year because Hodgson came back early from injury, he can't really come back super early from an ACL

    Averaged 40 last year when he filled in for Hodgson

    This is true, should have qualified that it was a waste of two trades for me. He made around $75k over those three weeks but the. had to be traded out which I think is what will happen this time around (i.e. not good enough for top 18, too expensive for emergencies). You could probably get the same $ return from someone like Starling for a smaller investment. If starling hits 30 for the next two or three weeks it's $100k
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    Post by Guest Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:54 am

    Something for the lurkers or people who may be interested, probably basic for most but might help some  
    Quiet at work today so thought I would put my thoughts on what I have been seeing here often

    TIP 1 = Mid rangers/Cut priced keepers aren't always bad....

    Why not grab a couple of Hunt,Brown,Taupau,RTS,Edwards etc (Over Gun + cow and having to play the cow)
    Often they come discounted (Due to injury/previous role)
    At worst if they fail, their price holds and usually it's easy enough to upgrade them and move on

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    Rather than looking at that large score from last weeks FOTM player or chasing the recent big score from the Uber Gun (And paying for it) look to the future.
    You don't get the missed points or cash so understanding why they scored more is probably more important.

    Here is an example :

    Taupau is a frustrating player to watch and scoring hasn't been his usual.
    People know what he is capable of and more minutes he gets, the more destruction he can do. But basically high PPM player, low game time so accept this when buying.
    Uninjured, under 600k with a fantasy pedigree and a safe job sounds good value.
    A fantasy beast on his day, you are buying a lottery ticket for his next big score which is what boosts his season average.

    At worst you have paid for a mid 40s average and won't lose cash, allowing you to strengthen the bench or fix other problems with the $$ saved.
    Other than injury he isn't going anywhere either so you don't have to worry his role changes too much.
    Any easy enough upgrade later if he keeps plodding along and you find some spare cash late in the game. At best he is a keeper.
    If in need of a FRF then why not gamble on him going well, vs someone overpriced that scored a couple tries or got extra minutes the last week due to injury
    Which one is the bigger gamble?

    At any point in a season there are multiple of these type players, just got to be ready to snap them up when they come available

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    TIP 2 = Try and get ahead of the curve

    So you didn't buy the above mid ranger weeks back and now they are killing it?
    It was actually part of your planned out strategy and because of circumstances you didn't get them then?
    Or you saw them on the weekends game or mentioned on the forum and now must have them in your team (Overlooking them weeks ago)

    Ever wonder sometimes why your team always feels like it is chasing other teams scores, with what feels like the same players and the later the season goes on they always feel like 2 players/steps ahead.

    You will never catch them paying top dollar for that same player or spending your cap on full priced players.
    Some guns you can't help this, but do this across the team and you will run out of cash very fast

    Good luck nailing every cow and cash out at the right time to let this perfect 17 happen, or choosing the right one to play for their big score each week. You are setting yourself up for failure.

    Think about it this way, that same player that you are buying now, teams above you probably got bottomed out in price which allowed them to spend the saved money elsewhere.
    Now finally joining the party late you have overlooked far better new options available , and those teams probably even grab them too
    And so the cycle continues

    You can't get everyone, so sometimes you need to move on and look at what is best this week not what was best 3 weeks ago.

    Call it calculated gambles, mitigated risks or whatever... But sometimes you need to look forward not backwards
    Cut your losses, move on and work out what changes/fixes you can do that you have control over.
    Get your team sorted, reduce some of the risk and perhaps settle on cut price keepers if it means you don't have to rely on so many cows to generate cash.
    Will probably find your stress levels reduce, you enjoy watching the games more and your overall team improves
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    Post by Fraser Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:56 am

    Any Knights fans know what the chances are that SMat starts this week? Would be great if he does.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:57 am

    I’m looking at Taupau next week for Paix if I can find a suitable base price cash out for Luai

    A steal for under 600k

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