NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 38 - Milkshakes, Centers and travel bubbles

That was a reasonably good fight.

robelgordo wrote:

I just think it’s the Darwin trip

Can name him and give it to 24 hrs out to see if he’s ok if it’s in Sydney. Not worth the risk when it’s a trip to Darwin and back involved

Yeah I guess.

Jele wrote:And for those without Cleary, one wise old poster (can’t remember who) posted a few weeks ago about the cons of chasing a missing gun. Basically, you can’t get those points back and have to now pay premium dollars, so you will always be behind those that started with him. That has proven - so far - to be a mistake but i reckon the strategy now has to be to zig while everyone else is zagging. Use the money everyone else has tied up in Cleary to grab other guns, and hope to make ip ground that way. Once you get him, you’ve locked in the disadvantage of not starting with him forever...

I found this post very interesting so I hunted it down to pen some thoughts.

I've caved in this week and (as at right now) finally brought Cleary in. I had every single intention of waiting for that elusive price drop (which will 100%, undoubtedly occur this week now that I finally brought him in), but to be totally honest, I just wasn't enjoying Fantasy this year without him in my team.

The main problem for me was that it was affecting both my Overall and H2H enjoyment. Overall, I have to write off already for 2021. I've accepted it and can just try to start to get somewhere near that top 10,000 and call it a win. Which is a sad thing after last year. But even in H2H, if you play someone with (C)leary and you don't have him, you can write that week off immediately. I had a shocking week last week on many levels and lost by well over 200 points in the end, but the contest was over and out on Thursday night. No way back unless four of his players got HIAs in the first minutes of their matches.

I guess my point that I haven't even insinuated yet is that we're not in this Fantasy thing with muppets. Everyone taking it pretty seriously has a good team, with Cleary. It doesn't matter how good your team is without Cleary, because you can't make up that insane difference in points each week unless you have a crystal ball and Captain every single guy who goes over 100 each week, which is obviously impossible.

Anyway, you guys are good at putting stuff into words but I am not. All I know is the week Cleary was out with his HIA I went awesome and got the 47th highest score of the entire round (a rare week where everything went right in my team). It was joyous. But every other week, when Cleary has played, I've been about 200 off the pace. Still can't think exactly what I'm trying to say, but my main point is that I might have Fifita, Crichton, Brailey, Muster or whoever might put a big score in any particular week... but so do the guys who own Cleary. They might have one less gun than me, but having Cleary's score each week, doubled, negates any other cool POD you might have.

I'm sure there's someone out there with a story about how well they're doing even without Cleary, but I'd hazard a guess there's probably only one or two of these folk.

Again, still not sure of my point. I guess the way I've calculated it in my head is that I'm hoping that what I've done with my team in the first six weeks without Cleary gives my team an edge over other teams that already have Cleary, now that I'm bringing Cleary in. And that I can now almost start anew. But I think Cleary has to be a piece of the puzzle. I've only played Fantasy for 4 years but haven't seen a player score so far ahead of the second player as I have this year, and there's no way I can see to play around it.

Apologies, that wasn't meant to be that long and I'm still pretty unsure my point remains unmade.

Stevie Spark what a debut

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Anyone got an idea who this Eels player is having been filmed having set in the dunny?

Better no be IPap on the week everyone brings him in.

The video I saw was hardly anything in it. DBags wasn’t even the one recording it so he’s safe.

Teeth Eater wrote:

Spoiler:

I zagged with and (Lucy)
Getting   (Moses) this week while everyone is focussed on the WFB/CTR crisis.

Just hoping (Teddy) tonnes up this week

Chewie wrote:

I zagged with and (Lucy)
Getting   (Moses) this week while everyone is focussed on the WFB/CTR crisis.

Just hoping (Teddy) tonnes up this week

You don't have Cleary, do you? And you have Mahoney and iPap since really early on, ay? And you're killing it, ay? It shows that being good at Fantasy helps in the battle without Cleary. Something I am not well versed in.

Teeth Eater wrote:

I found this post very interesting so I hunted it down to pen some thoughts.

I've caved in this week and (as at right now) finally brought Cleary in. I had every single intention of waiting for that elusive price drop (which will 100%, undoubtedly occur this week now that I finally brought him in), but to be totally honest, I just wasn't enjoying Fantasy this year without him in my team.

The main problem for me was that it was affecting both my Overall and H2H enjoyment. Overall, I have to write off already for 2021. I've accepted it and can just try to start to get somewhere near that top 10,000 and call it a win. Which is a sad thing after last year. But even in H2H, if you play someone with (C)leary and you don't have him, you can write that week off immediately. I had a shocking week last week on many levels and lost by well over 200 points in the end, but the contest was over and out on Thursday night. No way back unless four of his players got HIAs in the first minutes of their matches.

I guess my point that I haven't even insinuated yet is that we're not in this Fantasy thing with muppets. Everyone taking it pretty seriously has a good team, with Cleary. It doesn't matter how good your team is without Cleary, because you can't make up that insane difference in points each week unless you have a crystal ball and Captain every single guy who goes over 100 each week, which is obviously impossible.

Anyway, you guys are good at putting stuff into words but I am not. All I know is the week Cleary was out with his HIA I went awesome and got the 47th highest score of the entire round (a rare week where everything went right in my team). It was joyous. But every other week, when Cleary has played, I've been about 200 off the pace. Still can't think exactly what I'm trying to say, but my main point is that I might have Fifita, Crichton, Brailey, Muster or whoever might put a big score in any particular week... but so do the guys who own Cleary. They might have one less gun than me, but having Cleary's score each week, doubled, negates any other cool POD you might have.

I'm sure there's someone out there with a story about how well they're doing even without Cleary, but I'd hazard a guess there's probably only one or two of these folk.

Again, still not sure of my point. I guess the way I've calculated it in my head is that I'm hoping that what I've done with my team in the first six weeks without Cleary gives my team an edge over other teams that already have Cleary, now that I'm bringing Cleary in. And that I can now almost start anew. But I think Cleary has to be a piece of the puzzle. I've only played Fantasy for 4 years but haven't seen a player score so far ahead of the second player as I have this year, and there's no way I can see to play around it.

Apologies, that wasn't meant to be that long and I'm still pretty unsure my point remains unmade.

Hey Teeth,
Someone posted earlier that only 1 player in the top 1,000 does not have Cleary.
He’s scoring about 20-25 more than any other gun, so if you don’t have him you’re starting 50 odd points behind each week.
In fact, six weeks in and Cleary has scored more points than anyone else even though he’s missed a game.

Teeth Eater wrote:

I guess my point that I haven't even insinuated yet is that we're not in this Fantasy thing with muppets.

I think that there is at least one

Jumping Marlin wrote:

Hey Teeth,
Someone posted earlier that only 1 player in the top 1,000 does not have Cleary.  
He’s scoring about 20-25 more than any other gun, so if you don’t have him you’re starting 50 odd points behind each week.  
In fact, six weeks in and Cleary has scored more points than anyone else even though he’s missed a game.  

Hey mate, that'd be about what I'd assume. At first I thought it was cool to go in without Cleary and try to make it work, but like I said, it just made Fantasy unenjoyable seeing someone score at such a ridiculous level and realising there was no way other than insane luck or being able to see the future to make those points up.

Good teams will be able to scrape through here and there without him, but I think at the end of the year all the highest ranked teams will have had Cleary for the majority of the year. Not taking into consideration any unforeseen injuries, of course.

Cookie Monster wrote:


I think that there is at least one

Point well taken.

Teeth Eater wrote:

You don't have Cleary, do you? And you have Mahoney and iPap since really early on, ay? And you're killing it, ay? It shows that being good at Fantasy helps in the battle without Cleary. Something I am not well versed in.

I've had Cleary since the start...captained him every round.
He was by far the best captaincy option available at the start of the season with MC9 out and Haas not playing the first 4

Ranked 6704 and with 28 trades left, thinking of double trading but with round 13 in mind.

Liddle and riki to Oates and Moses.
Need a wfb with Pap out, have gone Oates over Hampton as he plays round 13 and actually ran the ball well last week and worried Hampton may lose his spot if the cowboys recruit another half soon.

Any suggestions on who could be a better pick instead of Moses, upto 694k in any position that plays round 13?

For reference that team is ranked 468th without Cleary and I will damn sure pass that Clearyless squad of spuds this year.

Dttragic2016 wrote:Ranked 6704 and with 28 trades left, thinking of double trading but with round 13 in mind.

Liddle and riki to Oates and Moses.
Need a wfb with Pap out, have gone Oates over Hampton as he plays round 13 and actually ran the ball well last week and worried Hampton may lose his spot if the cowboys recruit another half soon.

Any suggestions on who could be a better pick instead of Moses, upto 694k in any position that plays round 13?

Absolute worst case scenario Hamtpon scores 40 odd points this week and gets dropped next week. He still makes you $50k, and its really unlikely the Cowboys get anyone in a week let alone at the moment. Clune wants to stay at the Dragons. Broncs are giving Deardan a crack and even if he signs with Cowboys I dont think we will want him gone this year. Chad Townsville has stated he wants to be committed to the Sharks for the year, and with SJ and Moylan injury history. Surely they hold him and hope to sneak into the 8.

Oates is a winger who played one of his stronger games in years without a tryand still didnt crack 40 in a side unlikely to score many tries.

I think the risk outweighs the potential of Hampton getting a solid 5 or 6 weeks if not a season.

Very good fight that.

Dttragic2016 wrote:Ranked 6704 and with 28 trades left, thinking of double trading but with round 13 in mind.

Liddle and riki to Oates and Moses.
Need a wfb with Pap out, have gone Oates over Hampton as he plays round 13 and actually ran the ball well last week and worried Hampton may lose his spot if the cowboys recruit another half soon.

Any suggestions on who could be a better pick instead of Moses, upto 694k in any position that plays round 13?

Hampton a much better pick than oates.

Moses the best pick at the moment in my eyes

Is anyone going to be running with Simpkin and Verrills? Just wondering if it’s overkill pending what happens with Turpins minutes etc. This weeks trade ins are Turbo and Simpkin and next weeks are looking like Moses and Verrills. Team would look like this (if I traded out Turpin) and should have over 350k bank(I know it’s not wise to premeditate price rises).


Brailey
Alvaro Crichton Watson
Fifita Schuster
Cleary Moses
Roberts Hampton
Teddy Papy Turbo

Harris
Egan
Simpkin
Verrills

Laurie
Walker
Stefano
Niu

Alternatively I could bring in another CTR if need be but I’ll keep rolling with Roberts and Hampton for now. Probably getting too ahead of myself but I like to be one week ahead with trade plans

What about that fight!!! The link someone posted a bit back skipped from gal having him on the ropes straight to after the fight had finished and even when I rewinded it the same thing happened but I think I watched most of the whole 2 minutes of it

danseels1985 wrote:Is anyone going to be running with Simpkin and Verrills? Just wondering if it’s overkill pending what happens with Turpins minutes etc. This weeks trade ins are Turbo and Simpkin and next weeks are looking like Moses and Verrills. Team would look like this (if I traded out Turpin) and should have over 350k bank(I know it’s not wise to premeditate price rises).


Brailey
Alvaro Crichton Watson
Fifita Schuster
Cleary Moses
Roberts Hampton
Teddy Papy Turbo

Harris
Egan
Simpkin
Verrills

Laurie
Walker
Stefano
Niu

Alternatively I could bring in another CTR if need be but I’ll keep rolling with Roberts and Hampton for now. Probably getting too ahead of myself but I like to be one week ahead with trade plans

Yeah I am running Simpkin and Verrills and I assume most others will be. They’re both gonna earn too much cash while giving 40+ points a round to turn down