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    Post by mrbrownstone Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:00 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Adam Elliot, Tariq Sims, Aaron Woods. Tigers could sign them all and then who knows what heights we could reach.

    Isn't Curtis Scott on the radar too?
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    Post by robelgordo Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:32 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Adam Elliot, Tariq Sims, Aaron Woods. Tigers could sign them all and then who knows what heights we could reach.

    Tariq was apparently prepared to re-sign for less money to see his career out at the Dragons.

    But we're looking to the future instead, with signings like Josh McGuire, George Burgess, Jaydn Sua and Moses Mbye.
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    Post by No Worries Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:24 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Adam Elliot, Tariq Sims, Aaron Woods. Tigers could sign them all and then who knows what heights we could reach.

    Sironen too

    We could reach 9th
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:03 pm


    I've also heard the Tigers are trying to get John Bateman

    As its an actual quality signing, I assume it is 0% chance of happening
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    Post by Dttragic2016 Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:08 pm

    Was having a chat to a few mates about different types of fantasy sports. My basic opinion was that we're a pretty lazy, old school sporting community in Australia and we've always had gambling and had fantasy/sc since the mid 2000s so any new product (eg. DFS - draftstars/moneyball) will always struggle.

    Was interested to see other peoples opinions as I only really follow NRL & Cricket so don't know too much about Aussie fans of American sport or EPL and what the popular type of fantasy/betting is. Thoughts?
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:47 pm


    Draftstars took off in the US, in part, because sports gambling isn't legal and this was a loophole into it.

    Its got a higher barrier to entry than just chucking on a few multis on sportsbet. So don't think it will ever reach massive heights in Australia.
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    Post by Honeysett Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:39 pm

    Dttragic2016 wrote:Was having a chat to a few mates about different types of fantasy sports. My basic opinion was that we're a pretty lazy, old school sporting community in Australia and we've always had gambling and had fantasy/sc since the mid 2000s so any new product (eg. DFS - draftstars/moneyball) will always struggle.

    Was interested to see other peoples opinions as I only really follow NRL & Cricket so don't know too much about Aussie fans of American sport or EPL and what the popular type of fantasy/betting is. Thoughts?

    I love betting on the EPL because of the large odds. Same as basketball although I've stopped myself from doing it on the basketball because it's on every single day and in the morning. I'd basically be waking up and gambling. Just got far too invested into it
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    Post by GreenMachine Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:03 am

    Hello folks… Apologies for disappearing… Life took over the last couple of months. NRL has completely taken a back seat.

    Just a quick check in though to say I’m still alive and if you see that T-shirts fella (forget his User) online, can you please tell him to DM me when he’s ready with all the sizes and orders for the 14 League Champions shirt so I can arrange him a PayPal.

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    Post by my tv broke Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:13 am

    Morning all. Missing the early morning fantasy chatter around here as I settle in for a hard day at the office

    How is everyone doing?
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:17 am

    Dttragic2016 wrote:Was having a chat to a few mates about different types of fantasy sports. My basic opinion was that we're a pretty lazy, old school sporting community in Australia and we've always had gambling and had fantasy/sc since the mid 2000s so any new product (eg. DFS - draftstars/moneyball) will always struggle.

    Was interested to see other peoples opinions as I only really follow NRL & Cricket so don't know too much about Aussie fans of American sport or EPL and what the popular type of fantasy/betting is. Thoughts?

    It was always a struggle to get my mates into Fantasy, in the end I gave up. Few wild multi's and the odd first try scorer is about as into it as they'll get. I guess I'd agree with the 'lazy, old school sporting community" theory. Depends on the type of job you have too, eg I sit around at a desk most of the day so its easy to dig into fantasy/stats stuff.

    I do have one good mate who stopped playing fantasy back around 2014 because it took up too much of his time. Turns out he was on sportal back in the day.
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    Post by AL Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:57 am

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    Post by Dttragic2016 Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:51 pm

    Really interesting hearing a few other opinions on this as my group of friends who are massively into their sport is pretty limited (Living in Sydney mainly following cricket & nrl with some afl/nba). 100% agree that it's too much of an effort to get people into fantasy (or atleast commit for a whole season).

    And yep 100% agree with Milch on why DFS took off in the US and won't necessarily reach those heights here. Although in saying that, the US is legalising gambling across their states so will be interesting to see what their landscape looks like in 5 years. 'Dream11' is super popular in India (for similar reasons as DFS in the US, gambling is illegal there) to the point where they sponsored last year's IPL.
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    Post by StuDogg101 Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:41 pm

    GreenMachine wrote:Hello folks… Apologies for disappearing… Life took over the last couple of months. NRL has completely taken a back seat.

    Just a quick check in though to say I’m still alive and if you see that T-shirts fella (forget his User) online, can you please tell him to DM me when he’s ready with all the sizes and orders for the 14 League Champions shirt so I can arrange him a PayPal.

    My email is set to receive notifications.

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    Post by Aardvark Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:46 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Morning all. Missing the early morning fantasy chatter around here as I settle in for a hard day at the office

    How is everyone doing?


    I'm definitely 'kicking stones' around the home office.....finishing the weeks work early Thursday morning now though Very Happy
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    Post by filthridden Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:07 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    It was always a struggle to get my mates into Fantasy, in the end I gave up. Few wild multi's and the odd first try scorer is about as into it as they'll get. I guess I'd agree with the 'lazy, old school sporting community" theory. Depends on the type of job you have too, eg I sit around at a desk most of the day so its easy to dig into fantasy/stats stuff.

    I do have one good mate who stopped playing fantasy back around 2014 because it took up too much of his time. Turns out he was on sportal back in the day.

    name and shame, MTB! haha. Was it Gramsy? Timmah?!

    As for my opinion on the gambling stuff - gambling is made so easy, so accessible, is heavily advertised and built deeply into the Australian culture. A new form of gambling that is slightly more difficult? Yeah its gonna struggle.

    The major cultural difference I found when moving from NZ to Aus was the gambling culture. It's not great in NZ either but it's terrible here. It's essentially what made me give up the punt permanently within a year of moving here.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:52 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Morning all. Missing the early morning fantasy chatter around here as I settle in for a hard day at the office

    How is everyone doing?

    Yeah missing the chat too. Luckily my work picks up in the off season so I'm pretty busy at least from now on.

    You do realize how much fantasy monopolises your time once it's finished.
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:41 pm

    filthridden wrote:
    my tv broke wrote:

    It was always a struggle to get my mates into Fantasy, in the end I gave up. Few wild multi's and the odd first try scorer is about as into it as they'll get. I guess I'd agree with the 'lazy, old school sporting community" theory. Depends on the type of job you have too, eg I sit around at a desk most of the day so its easy to dig into fantasy/stats stuff.

    I do have one good mate who stopped playing fantasy back around 2014 because it took up too much of his time. Turns out he was on sportal back in the day.

    name and shame, MTB! haha. Was it Gramsy? Timmah?!

    As for my opinion on the gambling stuff - gambling is made so easy, so accessible, is heavily advertised and built deeply into the Australian culture. A new form of gambling that is slightly more difficult? Yeah its gonna struggle.

    The major cultural difference I found when moving from NZ to Aus was the gambling culture. It's not great in NZ either but it's terrible here. It's essentially what made me give up the punt permanently within a year of moving here.

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    Post by robelgordo Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:39 pm

    @Dttragic2016, here’s a long winded answer…

    I’ve got a core group of mates/work colleagues that will do various fantasy draft league (NFL, NRL, NBA, a few madmen have done MLB and NHL).. I also work with data daily, so it’s a biased sample

    Interest as waned as we all get older though. Not being able to do a draft in person for Nearly Sport/NRLCeo doesn’t help either, thanks COVID

    Stuff like NRL fantasy, SuperCoach, FPL where you are against the whole field and there’s less rivalry are a harder sell becuase they aren’t as social.

    Stuff with a financial investment just discourages casuals, and people who might invest might just find getting on the punt easier.

    The other thing is Aussie sports don’t have the same stats culture as US sports. There’s no obsession on Moneyball like baseball or all the metrics in NFL… I mean they do exist, but as IP in-house for clubs and stats providers.

    Even soccer is starting to promote awareness of OptaStats like expected goals.

    Meanwhile cricket, which should be stats rich like baseball, experts still mention averages in limited overs cricket. The advanced metrics that are bread and butter to T20 franchises are barely on the radar of the viewers and pundits, and the data are locked away. That effects the fantasy sports side as well. An stats informed audience are more likely to gravitate to these side games

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