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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:04 pm

    Broncos fans on here, how likely do you think it is that Ryan James gets 40 or more mins a game?


    I just had a look at his stats last year (excluded games under 30 mins), and it seems like if he does get 40 mins a game, he'll be value.

    * 3 games between 30 and 39 mins, with scores of 35(34), 31(30) and 36(31), for an average of 34 at 1.07PPM

    * 5 games between 40 and 50 mins, with scores of 47(41), 61(40), 49(42), 33(47) and 59(43), for an average of 49.8 at 1.18PPM

    The combined 8 game sample has him averaging 43.8 at 1.14PPM, and he's priced at 34.
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:34 pm

    Problem is you have two middles in Carrigan and Haas who have massive motors and can easily play 80 min (and have done so in the past). Also tricky in the sense that the second presumed starting prop (Flegler) is out for the first three weeks so there is every likelihood that James gets increased usage and minutes in the first three rounds, just enough to entice everyone before he becomes a 20-30min bench player again.

    On a personal note, I would love to see him go well as he has been a great stalwart of the game and a relatively undervalued player over his career.


    Bethany_B wrote:Broncos fans on here, how likely do you think it is that Ryan James gets 40 or more mins a game?


    I just had a look at his stats last year (excluded games under 30 mins), and it seems like if he does get 40 mins a game, he'll be value.

    * 3 games between 30 and 39 mins, with scores of 35(34), 31(30) and 36(31), for an average of 34 at 1.07PPM

    * 5 games between 40 and 50 mins, with scores of 47(41), 61(40), 49(42), 33(47) and 59(43), for an average of 49.8 at 1.18PPM

    The combined 8 game sample has him averaging 43.8 at 1.14PPM, and he's priced at 34.
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:43 pm

    Those that are keen on Tapine I just read he's unvaxxed currently so he can't play in Q/land or Victoria...still plenty of time to rectify though & you'd imagine with Ricky as coach he's drag him by the ear if he had to to get vaxxed.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:01 pm

    Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Problem is you have two middles in Carrigan and Haas who have massive motors and can easily play 80 min (and have done so in the past). Also tricky in the sense that the second presumed starting prop (Flegler) is out for the first three weeks so there is every likelihood that James gets increased usage and minutes in the first three rounds, just enough to entice everyone before he becomes a 20-30min bench player again.

    On a personal note, I would love to see him go well as he has been a great stalwart of the game and a relatively undervalued player over his career.




    I think Haas and Carrigan will play 60-65 mins each, and James/Fleg would get 35-45 each.

    If anything, it's between James and Kobe for a good cheapie, either Carrigan starts at lock (meaning James likely starts at prop since Flegler is an impact player) or he starts at prop (in which case Kobe starts at lock and is a buy there).

    I would prefer Carrigan starts at prop since Kobe is cheaper and has HOK dual.
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    Post by Lemmy KGB Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:12 pm

    Is J King from Storm not a thing anymore with NAS playing now? That makes things tricky getting 4 mids.
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    Post by my tv broke Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:13 pm

    Carrigan will wear the 13, you can lock that in.

    James is a trap imo. Flegler is going to have a good year (gut feel). The club loves hetherington. Its just too easy to spread the mins there
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:15 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Carrigan will wear the 13, you can lock that in.

    James is a trap imo. Flegler is going to have a good year (gut feel). The club loves hetherington. Its just too easy to spread the mins there
    You reckon Kobe could be a trap?
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    Post by Honey Badger Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:16 pm

    Lemmy KGB wrote:Is J King from Storm not a thing anymore with NAS playing now? That makes things tricky getting 4 mids.

    I still think he can potentially be a thing. There is still Tui's mins. See how he goes in the trials
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:16 pm

    Lemmy KGB wrote:Is J King from Storm not a thing anymore with NAS playing now? That makes things tricky getting 4 mids.

    Most likely not, though he could very well still get 35 mins, and may even start at lock if Bellyache decides to put NAS on the bench as an impact player.

    I'm hesitant to pick him with all the suspensions as we won't know his real role, though if he can get 35 mins a game, he will be value, as he gets roughly 1PPM and is priced at 26.

    if Mann gets dual before Rd1, then I won't bother with him as I will then have 4 mids without him.
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    Post by Camo123 Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:20 pm

    Rapana 2 week suspension

    Probably doesn’t create any fantasy relevance
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    Post by my tv broke Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:22 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    You reckon Kobe could be a trap?

    I wouldnt be picking him. Hes just not a fantasy relevant guy
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    Post by Camo123 Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:26 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    I wouldnt be picking him. Hes just not a fantasy relevant guy

    Everyone is talking about the wrong Hetherington Razz
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:26 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    I wouldnt be picking him. Hes just not a fantasy relevant guy

    If he starts at lock (with Carrigan prop), then I think he'll be a decent pick given the lack of good MID cheapies, though he'd be a slow burn.

    If Carrigan is at lock, then James becomes a good buy as he has much better PPM (average of 1.14 in 30+ minute games last year compared to 0.77 for Kobe)
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    Post by my tv broke Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:41 pm

    Neither are good buys i will put money on this
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:43 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Neither are good buys i will put money on this

    Neither of them are particularly good but there's not that many guys there.

    That said, King may be better than both of them given he's cheaper (priced at 26) and only really needs 35 mins to be value (he gets roughly 1PPM), which I think he'll get even with NAS there.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:00 pm

    IF Davey starts and Tapine can get the minutes, I can field a team I am completely happy with. Closest i’ve come yet.
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:25 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Neither are good buys i will put money on this

    Agree.

    The only way I can see James being an option is if Kevie has decided he needs and old head out there to guide the forwards in crunch times of the match on a more regular basis. Real young pack and we have seen over the last couple of years they lack guidance and game management on a  consistent basis. Old heads like Reynolds and James, especially with the retirement of Alex Glen, will be vital this season (how that translates to fantasy points I don't know). Can't think of another regular team starter or bench player that has more 100 game to their name.


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    Post by mattnz Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:28 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:IF Davey starts and Tapine can get the minutes, I can field a team I am completely happy with. Closest i’ve come yet.
    Cant see Tapine getting more minutes this season, short of changing clubs. Vax issues are a huge red flag as well until resolved.
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    Post by Milchcow Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:47 pm

    Lemmy KGB wrote:Is J King from Storm not a thing anymore with NAS playing now? That makes things tricky getting 4 mids.

    How keen are you to get this year's Leniu?
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 pm

    Kevvy won't have Croft to fall back on either

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