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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 23 - Flegler is the real moreton bay bug

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    Post by the_great_wobbler Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:42 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Yes and was biggest gut feel that he wouldn't match his price score wise

    Thanks for letting me know how much better your gut feels are than mine, I'll keep that in mind for the start of next season.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:42 am

    the_great_wobbler wrote:

    I don't quite follow? You mean Fifita was a bad call to start with? In hindsight sure

    Loomer wrote:

    Yes and was biggest gut feel that he wouldn't match his price score wise

    I was telling anyone that would listen that Fifi was poor value....
    Shame I decided to go with Crichton and Mahoney instead
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    Post by Chewie Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:45 am

    Planning on 1 trade this coming week, time to start banking a few.
    Both Sexton and DFifita can stay in the team for now, hopefully the Titans can find some form
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:47 am

    Bit of a rescue job on my score from Captain Haas and Cotter yesterday

    Brodie Jones, Tuilagi, Thompson, Katoa, Sexton all 30 or less in the 17

    Only Papy, Burton and Penisini to come for me so will need a great showing to even hit 800
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    Post by Guest Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:51 am

    the_great_wobbler wrote:

    Thanks for letting me know how much better your gut feels are than mine, I'll keep that in mind for the start of next season.

    Hey bro you're going good this round but you're reply to loomer sounds like you're a bit pissed off & all loomer was doing was giving his opinion & there was nothing in it to make you mad.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:51 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Bit of a rescue job on my score from Captain Haas and Cotter yesterday

    Brodie Jones, Tuilagi, Thompson, Katoa, Sexton all 30 or less in the 17

    Only Papy, Burton and Penisini to come for me so will need a great showing to even hit 800
    I’ll be happy to hit 650 this week 🤣
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    Post by Bazoots Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:56 am

    Grabbed Gilbert this week. That was painful. Looks like he'll go straight back out again.

    O well, you cant get them all right. Or any of them it would seem in my case
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    Post by sajjos Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:03 am

    mattnz wrote:For those in NZ wondering, Australia also had daylight savings end last night, so game times are the same

    Oh! Did we also end our daylight savings? Its hard to keep track when you dont have a clock or a watch.
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    Post by ytsb Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:10 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:



    I was telling anyone that would listen that Fifi was poor value....
    Shame I decided to go with Crichton and Mahoney instead

    I think the main case for Fifita was some certainty for the edges. Most here started with Nanai, Tuilagi, Bullemore, and one of Katoa/Fermor/Wilton. None seemed solid, long-term edge options. I grabbed Crichton after the clean-slate judiciary wipe for valuable DPP, but as a mid mainly. The decision was between iPap and Fifita for most. I went through an in-depth analysis of both players and determined that based on Fantasy scoring changes, both would probably average the same. The decision was between a 22 year old entering his "prime years", banking on that potential, and also a pedigree in a slower game, and a player who just had a breakout season and definitely benefitted from the faster game. iPap would get the ball on a blistering run and seemingly break millions of tackles and went over a bunch. My theory was that Fifita would be less effected by this, since he had a lesser motor and could recharge in a slightly slower game, whereas iPap really relied on space being created for him. I was wrong of course.

    The unanticipated (personally) changes to this fantasy scenario, was that we are seeing defensive lines be much more set on the whole with both the slower game and penalties > 6 again rulings. We've gone back to the arm-wrestle by and large. A much more solid defensive line has comparatively affected Fifita more than iPap who is a really solid tacklebot and defends in the middle. He's still getting points from that, whereas Fifita's points are fairly one-dimensional. The other unanticipated change is the change in spine for the Titans. Fifita is just not the focal point of attack like he once was. Fogarty might have been really positive for Fifita's scoring.

    Tl;DR I had an in-depth look at iPap and Fifita and picked Fifita, and it wasn't even a close decision for me really. It's just one of those 50/50s. No one could predict Fifita's current shite scoring, thought 50s were the minimum.  

    PS: I can't wait for my isolation to end and for me to have a life again, there's only so many solo beers one can have.
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:14 am

    I won't be able to afford Cleary so probs gonna grab DCE as an alternative and just pray that the scoring differences between the two won't be too bad. That game from DCE yesterday was a fkn masterclass, one of the best kicking performances I've seen in a minute. 4 scores in the 60's too very promising!
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    Post by Grouse Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:17 am

    Had a mates 19th yesterday so missed all the footy action. Other than the Raiders being a pile of shite, what did I miss? Anything major?
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    Post by Loomer Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:21 am

    Which legendary coach has max traded and last 3 trade ins are Hopgood, Gilbert, and Jones(for Tuilagi who was brought in for Uto Rd 2).
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    Post by Cake Tiger Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:25 am

    Mr Snrub wrote:Genuinely considering Fifita to Haas. Not owning him is a pretty big blow to the rankings with how consistent he is and how many captain him.  

    I also have that as an option. I want to hold Fifi because he will go big at some point but it just feels like I'm going backwards without Haas.
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    Post by Loomer Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:26 am

    Ramitinmyhaaas wrote:I won't be able to afford Cleary so probs gonna grab DCE as an alternative and just pray that the scoring differences between the two won't be too bad. That game from DCE yesterday was a fkn masterclass, one of the best kicking performances I've seen in a minute. 4 scores in the 60's too very promising!

    I could afford but not getting. I'll take the risk he scores big and doesn't leak cash
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    Post by sajjos Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:27 am

    This guy stole your post @Wolfy

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    Post by Loomer Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:27 am

    Cake Tiger wrote:

    I also have that as an option. I want to hold Fifi because he will go big at some point but it just feels like I'm going backwards without Haas.

    Own both. 100k lost on Fifi is enough. Watched every game and he annoys me with his laziness. He's gone I don't care if he goes big
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:28 am

    Loomer wrote:

    I could afford but not getting. I'll take the risk he scores big and doesn't leak cash

    Who's this for sorry? You not getting Cleary or DCE?
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    Post by Loomer Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:30 am

    Ramitinmyhaaas wrote:

    Who's this for sorry? You not getting Cleary or DCE?

    Cleary. Will have +90 BE. 60pts or less next game and you're burning money. I'll wait for a big score then buy
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:31 am

    ytsb wrote:

    I think the main case for Fifita was some certainty for the edges. Most here started with Nanai, Tuilagi, Bullemore, and one of Katoa/Fermor/Wilton. None seemed solid, long-term edge options. I grabbed Crichton after the clean-slate judiciary wipe for valuable DPP, but as a mid mainly. The decision was between iPap and Fifita for most. I went through an in-depth analysis of both players and determined that based on Fantasy scoring changes, both would probably average the same. The decision was between a 22 year old entering his "prime years", banking on that potential, and also a pedigree in a slower game, and a player who just had a breakout season and definitely benefitted from the faster game. iPap would get the ball on a blistering run and seemingly break millions of tackles and went over a bunch. My theory was that Fifita would be less effected by this, since he had a lesser motor and could recharge in a slightly slower game, whereas iPap really relied on space being created for him. I was wrong of course.

    The unanticipated (personally) changes to this fantasy scenario, was that we are seeing defensive lines be much more set on the whole with both the slower game and penalties > 6 again rulings. We've gone back to the arm-wrestle by and large. A much more solid defensive line has comparatively affected Fifita more than iPap who is a really solid tacklebot and defends in the middle. He's still getting points from that, whereas Fifita's points are fairly one-dimensional. The other unanticipated change is the change in spine for the Titans. Fifita is just not the focal point of attack like he once was. Fogarty might have been really positive for Fifita's scoring.

    Tl;DR I had an in-depth look at iPap and Fifita and picked Fifita, and it wasn't even a close decision for me really. It's just one of those 50/50s. No one could predict Fifita's current shite scoring, thought 50s were the minimum.  

    PS: I can't wait for my isolation to end and for me to have a life again, there's only so many solo beers one can have.

    I didn't (and still don't) think Fifita was a terrible pick. By end of the year he will average in the high 50s and put up keeper level scores in a tough position. I just thought starting every game would largely offset the unsustainable try scoring rate which is kind of what we are seeing. The tries aren't flowing yet but he still averaging 46 on the back of 6 extra tackles per game. He has had a few opportunities in space and been one missed tackle away from a 30 point play a few times. I understand the impatience from owners but I don't see him averaging <50 worst case scenario
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:31 am

    Ramitinmyhaaas wrote:I won't be able to afford Cleary so probs gonna grab DCE as an alternative and just pray that the scoring differences between the two won't be too bad. That game from DCE yesterday was a fkn masterclass, one of the best kicking performances I've seen in a minute. 4 scores in the 60's too very promising!
    Something tells me the slower game and the KM/TB nerfs will even the whole field out over time so you wont have another Cleary like season. I think saving on a DCE type will work out in the long run

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