Camo123 2024 Team Tracker

77k ITB

Grant
Murray Tupouniua Tatola
Wong Piakura
Cleary Fogarty
Simonsson Burbo
Papenhuyzen Rapana Weekes

Luki Lussick Hutchison Cotter
Salmon Hughes Cotric Mikaele

Other options in consideration depending on TLT 1B
HOK: Levi, Hands
MID: Curran
EDG: Blore, Curran
HLF: Moses
CTR: Penisini, Suli, Kris, Strange
WFB: Kini

Team actually hasn’t changed too much post TLT2, 151k ITB

Grant
Murray Tupouniua Tatola
Wong Piakura
Cleary Fogarty
Kiraz Burbo
Papenhuyzen Rapana Kini

Cotter Luki Hutchison Salmon
Chan Levi Strange Hughes

Thoughts on Vegas Players (including misses)
Murray - move to EDG seemingly net negative but may have been exacerbated by Arrow less mins (previous average 70 mins for Arrow on EDG in 2022)
Tupouniua/Wong - injuries impacting scores so looking to keep money ITB to rectify if needed
Haas - Haas doing Haas things, have made my bed early on though
Cheese - possibly my big regret with Arthur-gate ruining other HOK options. Considering double gun in Robson + Grant at cost of mid cover to avoid trades at the position/relying on Levi in R4

Camo123 wrote:Team actually hasn’t changed too much post TLT2, 151k ITB

Grant
Murray Tupouniua Tatola
Wong Piakura
Cleary Fogarty
Kiraz Burbo
Papenhuyzen Rapana Kini

Cotter Luki Hutchison Salmon
Chan Levi Strange Hughes

Thoughts on Vegas Players (including misses)
Murray - move to EDG seemingly net negative but may have been exacerbated by Arrow less mins (previous average 70 mins for Arrow on EDG in 2022)
Tupouniua/Wong - injuries impacting scores so looking to keep money ITB to rectify if needed
Haas - Haas doing Haas things, have made my bed early on though
Cheese - possibly my big regret with Arthur-gate ruining other HOK options. Considering double gun in Robson + Grant at cost of mid cover to avoid trades at the position/relying on Levi in R4

Not to shabby Camo... I'd tell you that Burbo and Kini are traps but my form in making these predictions is not good

R1: 688 (61243 overall)

Team remained the same as post TLT1B, post TLT2 have no issues with 20 starters and Kini on bye

Looking at Tatola to Koroisau to improve HOK depth (arguably locking down HOK for the year - please don’t see this fantasy gods). Holding off on the mid range mids to get more info (Terrell May mins with no EDG injuries/JWH return, Smithies role when Horse returns, Duncan/Seyfarth, Cheese mins)

Team (25k ITB post trade)

Grant
Murray Cotter Tupouniua
Wong Piakura
Cleary Fogarty
Burbo Strange
Papenhuyzen Kiraz Rapana

Koroisau Luki Salmon Kini*
Hutchison Levi Chan Hughes

Transfer in watchlist: JAC (when price bottoms out), Galvin, mid ranger MID, Campbell (once back)
Transfer out watchlist: Hutchison, Kini, Cotter, Murray (if EDG role continues)

Thoughts on Liddle over Koro?

Shady2K wrote:Thoughts on Liddle over Koro?

@Shady2K I think the Liddle score was a bit artificially inflated (2 TS and TO is 18 points)

I think Koroisau with GK should be 50+ which should be couple more than Liddle usually

Koroisau might also have the Mahoney MT gene where if he converts a couple of those to tackles it’s a 3 point turnaround

Camo123 wrote:

@Shady2K I think the Liddle score was a bit artificially inflated (2 TS and TO is 18 points)

I think Koroisau with GK should be 50+ which should be couple more than Liddle usually

Koroisau might also have the Mahoney MT gene where if he converts a couple of those to tackles it’s a 3 point turnaround

True but career 51 points in 70 minute games has me tempted

R2: 799 (33508 rank)

Trade was Tatola to Koroisau, missed the big May score.

Incredibly obvious trades this week: Wong and Luki to May and Galvin

Plan with money will be Kini to Campbell. Hutchison on out watchlist as well

Team (3 trades used, 157k ITB)

Grant
Murray Cotter Tupouniua
Piakura Chan
Cleary Fogarty
Strange Burbo
Papenhuyzen Rapana Kiraz

Koroisau May Galvin Hutchison
Salmon Kini Levi Hughes

In Watchlist: Finefuiaki, back 5 gun (Ponga below 700k next week?) or Campbell
Out Watchlist: Kini, Hutchison, Tupouniua, Rapana/Kiraz

R3: 917 (overall 741)

Huge round with round rank of 20 led by Kiraz and Koroisau

At what cost has it come? Everything.

Down to 15 pre trades with Cleary, Grant, Chan, Papenhuyzen, Kini and Piakura out making trades fairly easy again as need a WFB and another player (157k ITB)

Option 1: Hold Cleary (Piakura + Kini to Campbell + Finefuiaki - 2k ITB after trades). Captain one of Murray, Fogarty, Terrell May, Koroisau

Option 2: Sell Cleary and have money for upgrades (Cleary + Kini/Piakura to DBrown/Carrigan + Campbell)

Team pre trades (157k ITB)
Koroisau
Murray Cotter May
Tupouniua Salmon
Fogarty Galvin
Burbo Strange
Kini Rapana Kiraz

Hutchison Hughes Levi Cleary
Grant Chan Papenhuyzen Piakura

I think I'll be trading Cleary and Piakura out, so working on that idea for your team..

Cleary + Piakura out for Campbell and KPP leaves 450k to upgrade Kini to Dylbags next week. Thinking KPP takes priority with his and Dyls BEs this week. Dyl could run rampant on the Tigers and go close to that BE though, so was in my team at some point.

Edge is looking a little light and not really able to utilise the MID dpps of Sitili/Salmon now that Piakura has gone down and JChan's status is unknown. I also have Smithies in addition to those guys and it's feeling a little thin.

After 3 trades, would look something like this next week with a trade and ~$50-70k

Koro
Murray, Cotter, May
KPP, Sitili
Foggy, Galvin
Kiraz, Burbo/Strange
Pap, Campbell, Rapa

Grant, Galvin, Salmon, Hutch
Chan, Levi, SHughes, Burbo/Strange

Not sure of a plan for getting Cleary back, but worry about that later. Maybe flick Levi, Shoes or Chan to Talagi if he looks good and their cash gen has stalled.

WT Winfield wrote:I think I'll be trading Cleary and Piakura out, so working on that idea for your team..

Cleary + Piakura out for Campbell and KPP leaves 450k to upgrade Kini to Dylbags next week. Thinking KPP takes priority with his and Dyls BEs this week. Dyl could run rampant on the Tigers and go close to that BE though, so was in my team at some point.

Edge is looking a little light and not really able to utilise the MID dpps of Sitili/Salmon now that Piakura has gone down and JChan's status is unknown. I also have Smithies in addition to those guys and it's feeling a little thin.

After 3 trades, would look something like this next week with a trade and ~$50-70k

Koro
Murray, Cotter, May
KPP, Sitili
Foggy, Galvin
Kiraz, Burbo/Strange
Pap, Campbell, Rapa

Grant, Galvin, Salmon, Hutch
Chan, Levi, SHughes, Burbo/Strange

Not sure of a plan for getting Cleary back, but worry about that later. Maybe flick Levi, Shoes or Chan to Talagi if he looks good and their cash gen has stalled.

Love your work mate. I noticed how shit my EDG is without Piakura but completely forgot about KPP when scrolling through options and with Chan having Blore risk I like that idea

Hope it works out mate I've gone for KPP at the moment, but thought maybe you'd gone cold on him or preferred the cheaper option in Fine for other moves. I was keen on Fine if I could stash him in the EMG, but with the carnage this week, I think KPP is the better points play and could potentially be keeper level.

I think I've talked myself into Kiraz over Campbell for this week before his price gets out of reach and see how Campbell and Gutho go. Might end up having 4 or 5 wfbs in my 17 in a week or two, until I cut Rapana loose anyway. Not normally how I play, but a 40-50 average wfb is better than these 30-35average forwards and halves I'm trotting out early season.

WT Winfield wrote:I think I'll be trading Cleary and Piakura out, so working on that idea for your team..

Cleary + Piakura out for Campbell and KPP leaves 450k to upgrade Kini to Dylbags next week. Thinking KPP takes priority with his and Dyls BEs this week. Dyl could run rampant on the Tigers and go close to that BE though, so was in my team at some point.

Edge is looking a little light and not really able to utilise the MID dpps of Sitili/Salmon now that Piakura has gone down and JChan's status is unknown. I also have Smithies in addition to those guys and it's feeling a little thin.

After 3 trades, would look something like this next week with a trade and ~$50-70k

Koro
Murray, Cotter, May
KPP, Sitili
Foggy, Galvin
Kiraz, Burbo/Strange
Pap, Campbell, Rapa

Grant, Galvin, Salmon, Hutch
Chan, Levi, SHughes, Burbo/Strange

Not sure of a plan for getting Cleary back, but worry about that later. Maybe flick Levi, Shoes or Chan to Talagi if he looks good and their cash gen has stalled.

What he said, really like those moves. Hopefully Dylbags hits some big scores whilst Cleary is out and he bridges the gap to flip back to him.

Think you have a deep squad. Just the three Melbourne players plus some unfortunate late outs to injury makes it look worse.

Think Kini needs to go as a priority. Is your biggest dead cow. Piakura and Cleary can be sold if needed for cash.

Really love the Campbell pick. Allows you to stop playing strange at CTR next week.

Tohu and Carrigan are my top picks for your team if you are trading Cleary. Not so fussed on which you pick here or if there’s others you like (KPP also works).

Fine would work if you want to try holding Cleary but don’t love it.

Long story short. Love your trade. Would sell Kini instead.

Cap'n Ranta wrote:Think you have a deep squad. Just the three Melbourne players plus some unfortunate late outs to injury makes it look worse.

Think Kini needs to go as a priority. Is your biggest dead cow. Piakura and Cleary can be sold if needed for cash.

Really love the Campbell pick. Allows you to stop playing strange at CTR next week.

Tohu and Carrigan are my top picks for your team if you are trading Cleary. Not so fussed on which you pick here or if there’s others you like (KPP also works).

Fine would work if you want to try holding Cleary but don’t love it.

Long story short. Love your trade. Would sell Kini instead.

Yeah I’ve done Kini I’m not falling into the trap of leaving deadwood for the year

I can’t believe he actually lost money and the gap to Campbell got larger since R1

Came to offer some advice mate but noticed you are well covered by Winfield and Ranta.
Don’t really think I can add anything of value to what those guys have said.

Copying this from main thread so I don’t deviate from value

HOK:
Cook 733k (-40k) - if Souths get their shit together
Grant 765k (-23k) - good pick up after bye with only 1 LB + LBA so far

MID
Tapine 699k (-38k) - usually picks up around Origin, stacked pack

EDG
Nikora 652k (-70k) - back from suspension R6, probably prime pickup after dropping cash for peaked cow
Sorensen 636k (-47k) - similar as above, except timeframe extended with injury. Might be mid 500s at Origin
Bateman 700k (-40k) - bound to get attacking stats. Probably post first bye

HLF
DCE 780k (-97k) - think he’ll keep dropping while Brooks and Turbo steal attacking stats
Brown 675k (-84k) - obviously on most people’s radar without Moses
SJ 801k (-71k) - could he be a Cleary alternative if you can’t back to him once recovering from injury and gets GK
Hynes 944k (-56k) - no 1 captain while Cleary out

CTR
Crichton 524k (-96k) - could be one to target for Strange post Dogs bye (Origin?)
Best 502k (-87k) - as above but before Raiders bye
Simonsson 428k (-45k) - drops post injury affected game (if he gets back in?)

WFB
Ponga 689k (-68k) - ripe for the picking if you need WFB
JAC 409k (-35k) - drops post injury affected game, probably post Dogs bye

R4: 724 (rank 1135)

Dropped some ranks but feel squad is in a good shape and quite happy with KPP buy with every EDG shitting the bed (trades were Cleary and Kini to KPP and Campbell)

Once again double trading to fix shit cows and red dots
Chan to Talagi
Sitili to DBrown

Team (108k ITB, 1 banked trade)
Grant
Murray Cotter May
KPP Piakura
DBrown Fogarty
Kiraz Strange
Papenhuyzen Rapana Campbell

Koroisau Levi Hutch Galvin
Salmon Talagi Burbo Hughes

If anyone could assist with double loop that would be appreciated

Solid trades, are you following through with the avoiding Hynes/Cleary or have you got a plan to get one?

Regarding the looping, name the 17 as you have above and then your EMG you want:

#18: Hughes
#19: Talagi
#20: Salmon
#21: Brbo

If Salmon scores good you leave Salmon where he is, if he scores poor you swap him with Talagi to get Brbo's score.

If Hughes scores good you leave Galvin at #17, if Hughes shits the bed (likely!) you swap Talagi with Galvin to get his score.

Camo123 wrote:R4: 724 (rank 1135)

Dropped some ranks but feel squad is in a good shape and quite happy with KPP buy with every EDG shitting the bed (trades were Cleary and Kini to KPP and Campbell)

Once again double trading to fix shit cows and red dots
Chan to Talagi
Sitili to DBrown

Team (108k ITB, 1 banked trade)
Grant
Murray Cotter May
KPP Piakura
DBrown Fogarty
Kiraz Strange
Papenhuyzen Rapana Campbell

Koroisau Levi Hutch Galvin
Salmon Talagi Burbo Hughes

If anyone could assist with double loop that would be appreciated

You have to play Salmon or Burbo at EDG so thats one really simple loop. You may want to play both so its not super straightforward.

I'd set it up like this

Grant
Murray Cotter May
KPP Piakura
DBrown Fogarty
Kiraz Talagi
Papenhuyzen Rapana Campbell

Koroisau Hutch Levi Galvin
Hughes Strange Salmon Burbo

Bulldogs play second. I'd be looping Hughes and Salmon.

If Hughes scores well as a starter then leave him and he'll come in for Galvin. If you dont like Hughes then you can move either Strange/Burbo into spot 17
If salmon scores well (more than you expect Burbo to) then you can leave him and he'll sub in as an EDG. If you are keen to risk it then Burbo swaps into spot 19 and hes' your new edge AE.

Note because one is a bench loop (Hughes) and one is a positional loop (Salmon) you can keep niether, one or both so I think this is the best setup.

I also swapped Strange and Talagi because thats how I'd play them.Think Talagi has a better floor and more upside.