NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 10 - Not enough Raiders

mattnz wrote:

For Levi I care less about the score and more about the 57+ minutes. At his price, even 0.6 PPM, he makes really good money with those minutes.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Nobody is rating him as ordinary. He was excellent. But "ball playing" for a lock is not "made for fantasy", just ask Victor Radley. You get nothing for being the guy before the guy who assists the try or line break.

And some of us watch Super League and know that offloading and tackle breaking is just not in his game. He's a grafter. That's great for NRL but not amazing for fantasy, Whitehead was the best offloader in England before he came to Australia, he could flip it out like Taupau and actually dialled his ballplaying way back when he hit Australia. Bateman was always a really creative player. Smithies isn't. He has barely any offloads, line breaks or even tackle breaks in Super League, where both those things are far easier to come by. He *does* have a shit load of tackles. He'll need big minutes to do really well at fantasy and the "doubting" is whether the minutes are there when three of the NRL's best ten middles are already in that Raiders pack.

If Hors comes back in R3 and Smithies gets 60+ minutes then I'll get him for sure at about $600k. At that point he might look like a "must have" but not yet. Nice start if you're an owner, but not a rush if you're not.

mickspicks wrote:

32 with a try. Not sure about that. But will make money the next few weeks at least.

wolfking wrote:If I had Ponga, I'd personally be stoked with a 40 given his lack of involvement and how bad they were.

mattnz wrote:

Should update to close to 40 points.

Consistently around 0.6-0.7 PPM across several seasons.

2019 probably a good comparison - 38 points in 59 minutes. Priced at 21.

In round 1, look at minutes and role, not score.

Rabbit wrote:

He's still a kid. "Grafter". lol. Bateman was the ultimate grafter before Ricky wanted a ball playing lock.

Anyway...you'll own him eventually. Yeah, I watch SL.

Rabbits21 wrote:
His career ppm is 0.57 at hooker can we please get the facts right mate thank you.

mattnz wrote:

His lowest season since 2018 has been 0.59 PPM. Calculating expectations on 0.6 PPM is reasonable. Getting 0.45 PPM in 2016 in his rookie season doesn't really matter any more.

FACTS!

wolfking wrote:If I had Ponga, I'd personally be stoked with a 40 given his lack of involvement and how bad they were.

Rabbits21 wrote:

Levi not sure should chase him Starling was good when on Levi might go back to 50mins role, would’ve scored 18 or so without the try as well.

robelgordo wrote:

Yeah I mean that’s the kind of game where Ponga has previously scored 14, I’ll take 40. I didn’t get him for this week only

mattnz wrote:

His lowest season since 2018 has been 0.59 PPM. Calculating expectations on 0.6 PPM is reasonable. Getting 0.45 PPM in 2016 in his rookie season doesn't really matter any more.

FACTS!

Rabbits21 wrote:

Look at hooker when starting ppm is 0.57 that’s the facts when starting so I think it’s wrong to say between 0.6-0.7.

Personally I don’t think he plays 57mins each week Starling looked great off the bench Levi will play high 40’s to low 50’s mins some weeks that’s my opinion.

wolfking wrote:

The only fact I care about right now is 32 with a try.  If I wanted a shitto winger score I would have picked one, not a starting hooker.

We all know Levi is crap and we get what we pay for but that score with a try in that time is putrid no matter how much you choose to polish it.

If he scored 25 with just all tackles in 50 minutes, I think I'd be more happy with starting with him.

mickspicks wrote:Didn't Levi hurt his hammy tonight anyway?