NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 12 - No need for a restart

Honeysett wrote:

I think the really important aspect here that's been missed is he's just a great footballer. He's not just some gap filler who will get dropped on form. He's always around the ruck when they make a quick play and he can bust a tackle. I like him as a player.

Agreed. Also he's got a bit of mongrel about him. I remember when they played the Roosters he was giving JWH everything he got. Didn't back down at all. Bit like Radley that way I guess.

Who are people that are interested in Koro thinking they'd drop for him? Starting hooker or get him as your backup?

BCT05 wrote:

I'm confused are you banking on him doing all the kicking even if Sezer is back in next week or are you banking on Sezer not coming back in?

Sezer is available, trained this week, at 14, just wasn't picked ahead of the other 2.
Sullivan was on my radar, even if next to Sezer.
His pricing includes interchange games, a 3 point injury game and playing next to hunt.
He was primary kicker next to Sezer in the trials and starting next to a rookie 6.
Kid has talent, now getting opportunity.

L-Jimmy wrote:Damn, my teams so mid-range that I genuinely cannot guess who to loop


Options:
Wong
Sitili
TDuncan
Rapana
Chan
Tuaupiki
Salmon
Piakura
Kris
Berry

What a shower.

Two scenarios:

1. Your internet in no mans land will be so bad you'll fuck it up anyway so it wont matter
2. Even if you manage to loop correctly you'll choose the wrong player to loop

mattnz wrote:

When there is a small sample size, including a length of the field try for a forward, giving 52 points in 31 minutes in one of the games, reserve grade stats are more likely to give a better idea of likely output in that position. In this case it is pretty clear not to be expecting 1 PPM from him.

I'm with Matt on this one. Throwing a good sample of reserve grade stats out the window because "hurr durr reserve grade" is pretty moronic. Especially when you're comparing apples with oranges (starting lock vs impact bench player).

At the end of the day Duncan is playing EDG which is neither lock nor interchange. You would be remiss to ignore his reserve grade starts at lock, just as you would be remiss to ignore his first grade average of 1ppm including a length of the field try (which is in his range of possible outcomes).

Basically, consider all the data available to you, interpret it using the best of your (our) combined 78 IQ, and come to a conclusion if he's a buy.

My 78IQ (maybe less in fantasy terms) tells me he's a fairly obvious buy.

Snatchpato wrote:
Two scenarios:

1. Your internet in no mans land will be so bad you'll fuck it up anyway so it wont matter
2. Even if you manage to loop correctly you'll choose the wrong player to loop

That side needs serious rebalancing, to get the cash in the 17. Would start by trading in a decent half so you aren't relying on Strange there.

mattnz wrote:

I have seen him play. Great player. Will wait and see his role before trading in though. Who do you trade out that he is going to do much better than, before Arrow returns - Sitili, Piakura, Wong? Is he really an upgrade on them?

Lolo for me

Camo123 wrote:Thoughts on Koro with Sezer on bench? Seems less of a genuine utility than Simpkin/Da Silva

Should definitely be GK as well

Hoping for all that is good and holy that he gets more minutes than I predicted (and I predicted 80 minutes) because my first round was a dumpster fire and the only reason I'm still holding out hope is because I had a "gun" on a bye.

Camo123 wrote:Salmon, Levi and Chan, Hutchison - who to loop

Have Salmon and Levi in loop, Hutch in 17 and Chan left out currently

Got the same bunch and Salmon is definitely in my 17, personally.

I'm currently set up to loop Hutch and Chan, but confident Hutch will do enough that a loop need not be considered. I actually have Hughes over Levi in my pecking order, personally.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Well 21 green dots and not a lot I really want to do with 180k in the bank. Hopefully can save some trades and consolidate after a decent Round 1

Unless there's something obvious mate, enjoy the chance to kick back and pat yourself on the back for a job well done. I'd happily swap your situation for mine

There'll be plenty of rounds where you're forced into a double trade, so unless there's a big upgrade or no-brainer cash gen option, I'd be sitting on my hands.

No real trades needed for me (753 last week - only real letdowns were Hopgood, Cleary, Grant and Piakura - but they are all long term holds for me so will bounce back)
will have cotric, Kini and Willison as Red/Black dots, but they sit nicely on the EMG bench.
Possibly think of moving Willison out for a green cheaply to possibly start rising in value.

mickspicks wrote:

The way he skips across across field is intriguing me.

Bird and Tedesco vibes the way he runs.
Hopgood and Kiraz vibes the way his first instinct appears to be offload.

Could be a deadly mix for fantasy, and a really frustrating time for opposition middles.

DazzaNZ wrote:No real trades needed for me (753 last week - only real letdowns were Hopgood, Cleary, Grant and Piakura - but they are all long term holds for me so will bounce back)
will have cotric, Kini and Willison as Red/Black dots, but they sit nicely on the EMG bench.
Possibly think of moving Willison out for a green cheaply to possibly start rising in value.

Collecting red dots is asking for trouble. Start trading them out before they cause an issue when you have other problems to deal with.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Here is some 2013 under 20s stats I found laying around. We should have data on most of these players for their career to show how worthless these stats are

First Name	Surname	CLUB	POSITION	AVG SCORE
Bryce	Cartwright	PEN	2nd row/Halfback	67.29
Michael	Lichaa	CRO	Hooker	54.47
Jake	Trbojevic	MAN	Front row	54.14
Matthew	Lodge	MEL	Front row	52.86
John	Talioe Sila	CBY	Wing	51.44
Mitch	Cornish	CBR	Halfback	51.23
Brenko	Lee	CBR	Centre	50.71
David	Bhana	NZL	Lock	48.36
Dallin	Watene-Zelezniak	PEN	Fullback	48.28
Joeseph	Ualesi	PAR	Lock/2nd row/Front row	48.20
Hymel	Hunt	GCT	Centre/2nd row/Front row	46.57
Kal	Collins	STI	Lock	46.25
Zac	Santo	NQL	Fullback/Wing/Centre	45.05
Pauli	Pauli	PAR	Front row/2nd row	44.56
Luke	Brooks	WST	Halfback	44.06
Francis	Molo	BRI	Front row	43.76
Javid	Bowen	NQL	Centre/Fullback	43.61
Jack	Ahearn	CBR	Fullback/5-8/Halfback	43.50
Iszah	Yeo	PEN	2nd row/centre	42.71
Jonathon	Reuben	CBR	Wing	41.81
Kyle	Lovett	WST	2nd row/Front row	41.45
Matt	McGahan	MEL	Halfback/Front row	41.43
Brenden	Santi	WST	2nd row/lock	41.43
Patrick	Mago	CBR	2nd row/Lock	39.80
Tevita	Pangai	CBR	2nd row	39.67
Luke	Bateman	CBR	Lock/2nd row	39.53
John	Asiata	SYD	Lock	39.53
Clint	Gutherson	MAN	Fullback/Centre	39.08
Kurt	Mann	MEL	Fullback/5-8/Wing	38.73
Adrian	Templeman	CBY	Fullback	38.09
Nathan	Brown	WST	Front row	37.60
Evander	Cummins	STI	Fullback	37.40
Moses	Mbye	CBY	5-8/Centre	37.33
Solomone	Kata	NZL	Centre	36.69
Jeremy	Hawkins	CBR	Centre/Wing/2nd row	36.57
George	Jennings	PEN	Centre	33.78
Mitchell	Moses	WST	F-E/Centre	33.21

1. A shitload of those players are out of position
2. No one was referring to under 20s stats
3. Players develop over time
4. Heaps of those players who are in the same position have similar stats???

Not sure the point you were making with this post, but I'm certain you didn't make it.

I'm letting Lolo go, only because there's something fucked there in that situation and it looks like he's on the outer. Why else would you limit his minutes?

It's interesting the paths of the gun props of 5 years ago, Taumalolo is playing within himself, Taupau is struggling to make a first grade team but Papalii is looking like this season could see a resurgence. I would love to see Taumalolo play the same role as Papalii because I don't think age has got fuck all to do with it, Ricky just pumps him up and he goes to work

Got two options to roll with.

Leniu > JSaifiti. Seems pretty logical as to why.

Or a double trade

Leniu > Seyfarth (not totally convinced)
Lolo > Liddle.

Thoughts?

Camo123 wrote:

Wrong Saifiti haha. Jacob was the one that gunned it last week

Oh shit yeah I'll edit that. I'm used to saying Daniel as the better Saifiti haha!