NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 63 - I guess I'll play grown up

Regarding Plath, I think people saying "I knew I shouldn't of traded Plath out/Why did I trade Plath out/Trading Plath out has been my worst decision this year" and just seeing recent bias.

I traded him out so did others. He had two weeks at Hooker, scored 35, then 32. There was no reason to keep him when he was scoring like that and the information we had at the time, trading him out was the best move.

None of us can see the future (Obviously), well I don't think any of us can...

Finch wrote:Regarding Plath, I think people saying "I knew I shouldn't of traded Plath out/Why did I trade Plath out/Trading Plath out has been my worst decision this year" and just seeing recent bias.

I traded him out so did others. He had two weeks at Hooker, scored 35, then 32. There was no reason to keep him when he was scoring like that and the information we had at the time, trading him out was the best move.

None of us can see the future (Obviously), well I don't think any of us can...

If you trade someone out because of 2 bad scores, you can not get upset if they then go back to scoring how they did the 10 games prior to that.

Sometimes it's correct to ditch someone after a couple of did weeks, but most of the time they revert to normal scoring

I'm general, people should hold trades a lot more than they do.

RandomSil wrote:With minimal to no trades. Four rounds to go.

What is everyone's rank at the moment, and goal for end of year.

I'm rank 3336 at the moment and want to try and break into the top 2500 although the last 3 weeks have only moved 300 odd spots. Hoping having two trades and injury free team currently (touch wood) that I can continue to move up steadily.

Would like to beat last year rank but that’s very ambitious at this stage

Was also hoping to win autofill and finish top 1000 in that again, but that is out of reach now

RandomSil wrote:With minimal to no trades. Four rounds to go.

What is everyone's rank at the moment, and goal for end of year.

I'm rank 3336 at the moment and want to try and break into the top 2500 although the last 3 weeks have only moved 300 odd spots. Hoping having two trades and injury free team currently (touch wood) that I can continue to move up steadily.

2,335. Goal at the start of the year was top 10,000 so that's well and truly achieved. Would now like to get top 2,000 if I can, but more than that I want to win both my H2H leagues after getting the minor premiership in both

Finch wrote:Regarding Plath, I think people saying "I knew I shouldn't of traded Plath out/Why did I trade Plath out/Trading Plath out has been my worst decision this year" and just seeing recent bias.

I traded him out so did others. He had two weeks at Hooker, scored 35, then 32. There was no reason to keep him when he was scoring like that and the information we had at the time, trading him out was the best move.

None of us can see the future (Obviously), well I don't think any of us can...

There's a bit more to it than that - two games is a very small sample size and he'd only just moved into a new position so there was reason to think he could improve as he settled into playing there. He was basically not running the ball at all in those first two games likely just trying to do the basics right, so there was scope for uptick.

Now of course going on to average 70 after that is outrageous.

Finch wrote:Regarding Plath, I think people saying "I knew I shouldn't of traded Plath out/Why did I trade Plath out/Trading Plath out has been my worst decision this year" and just seeing recent bias.

I traded him out so did others. He had two weeks at Hooker, scored 35, then 32. There was no reason to keep him when he was scoring like that and the information we had at the time, trading him out was the best move.

None of us can see the future (Obviously), well I don't think any of us can...

Yeah fair point. For the most part I've held through bad patches successfully, but something about Plath at hooker just didn't feel right. Trading a green dot that goes on to play really well is the worst feeling in fantasy. But I'll learn from it for next season, hopefully

Milchcow wrote:

If you trade someone out because of 2 bad scores,  you can not get upset if they then go back to scoring how they did the 10 games prior to that.

Sometimes it's correct to ditch someone after a couple of did weeks, but most of the time they revert to normal scoring

I'm general,  people should hold trades a lot more than they do.

I held Plath but disagree with this to an extent.

It was 2 bad scores due to a new position. Some people might have expected some level of bounce back but getting back to his MID average and into the HOK scoring levels of Grant,Cook, Mahoney was at the extreme end of range of outcomes. nature of the game is you often can’t wait 4,5,6 games to see which way the coin lands

Can see why he was a sell

Another timeline it’s the obvious move in hindsight and a minority bemoan having a 530k emergency player they can’t upgrade with limited trades

kamikamicameleons wrote:

Yeah fair point. For the most part I've held through bad patches successfully, but something about Plath at hooker just didn't feel right. Trading a green dot that goes on to play really well is the worst feeling in fantasy. But I'll learn from it for next season, hopefully

I mean what will you learn though?

Next guy that has a positional change and scores worse there continues to score worse there. You hold because Plath. Will probably be told the signs were there to jump off because of the role change as he’s now dropped 200k

It’s all easy in hindsight

RandomSil wrote:With minimal to no trades. Four rounds to go.

What is everyone's rank at the moment, and goal for end of year.

I'm rank 3336 at the moment and want to try and break into the top 2500 although the last 3 weeks have only moved 300 odd spots. Hoping having two trades and injury free team currently (touch wood) that I can continue to move up steadily.

127 atm, dropped out of the top 100 this week. Would love to improve my best ever finish of 78, and it would be nice to at least top the Eels league.

2 trades left

robelgordo wrote:

I held Plath but disagree with this to an extent.

It was 2 bad scores due to a new position. Some people might have expected some level of bounce back but getting back to his MID average and into the HOK scoring levels of Grant,Cook, Mahoney was at the extreme end of range of outcomes. nature of the game is you often can’t wait 4,5,6 games to see which way the coin lands

Can see why he was a sell

Another timeline it’s the obvious move in hindsight and a minority bemoan having a 530k emergency player they can’t upgrade with limited trades

i posted at the time* that it seemed pretty obvious he was pacing himself in those first two games (well, i'd only seen the first of the two, lol). but we've all seen him play this year, he's tenacious and loves to get involved. he was warming into the position. to turn into a 30's player as an 80 min hooker seemed like the most unlikely scenario.

*cocky hindsight crow

re 'what can you learn'.. probably not much, the next player that comes along will be different. but plath was an eye test pick from the start. i don't think there was a lot to change opinion of him because of two low scores.

my tv broke wrote:Curious to know how i went against SI in the eliminator but alas the app is fucking useless, so we wait ..

The senior coder has been defeated!

robelgordo wrote:

I mean what will you learn though?

Next guy that has a positional change and scores worse there continues to score worse there. You hold because Plath. Will probably be told the signs were there to jump off because of the role change as he’s now dropped 200k

It’s all easy in hindsight

Yeah I don't really know what I'll learn, except never trade Galvin.

Edit:
The things I have learned this year.

• Don't have or hold too many origin players through the origin
  
• Don't have too many injury prone players
  
• Roosters forwards - never (except Angus)
  
• Past spuds don't often unspud. Looking at you Joey Lussick
  
• Don't buy players at their peak
  

Probably mostly obvious, but things I didn't know in my first season last year

Plath outcome (thankfully never considered trading due to numerous other fires) has me weary of getting Koloamatangi this week.

Need to see if it was a one off before making any knee jerks on him too

Just on the Plath trade out, context is everything. My instinct was to hold Plath but I made a number of trades that week to 'upgrade' my team. The primary trade was to bring in Cleary and the choice came down to holding Weekes or holding Plath.

My gut was telling me to hold Plath (pretty sure I even said it on here) but I had plenty of MID/HLF cover and sweet fuck all WFB cover I could rely on with Garrick out the next round. I thought it would be more productive to be able to loop Weekes and Gray rather than just play Gray.

It wasn't, Plath went well and I was wrong. The trade had not much to do with Plath's bad scores (i.e. I've held Nikora through a worse run for a reasonable average) and a lot to do with trying to achieve 'balanced team coverage'. As it turned out, holding him would have been the best option.

@Finch is right, sometimes you make a call for the right reasons and it just doesn't work out.

@milchcow is right too, people spunk too many trades on reactive trades when the norm is usually the players average.

Swapped Weekes to Ponga the last round incidentally

On Plath...

I kept him because
A: I was low on trades
2: I thought it was only a temporary position switch
III: I was low on trades

Looking forward to have Teddy & Angus back this week, which means less spuds in the 17
No Broncos this week, 21 green dots likely, no loops

wolfking wrote:Scored 887 this week and gained a couple of ranks sitting at 513.

we seem to be following the same scores/ranks every week.

879 rank 561 for me haha

Chewie wrote:On Plath...

I kept him because
A: I was low on trades
2: I thought it was only a temporary position switch
III: I was low on trades

Can’t trust this logic given you’ve used 3 different numbering systems for your dot points