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    Post by RandomSil Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:32 pm

    Teamlists, Team Reviews, and Thank You Notes.

    Here are some 2017 resources.

    Honey Badger's team picker
    http://www.azwebsolutions.co.nz/teampicker.php

    Milchcow's team planner (still draft version with incorrect prices)
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/t8gqrkac3r1tomk/2017+Team+Planner+v0.1.xlsm

    Price Predictor
    https://www.mediafire.com/?b6c5cy0c1941i4g
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:54 pm

    The return of the rate my team thread Beating Heart

    This was bloody handy for many in helping to get some unbiased opinions on their team going and helping to see that some picks were more with your heart than with your head
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:17 pm

    Will add my scores in here to avoid the main thread getting clogged
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    Post by standard-issue Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:19 pm

    Was a great thread for bouncing shit around, Sik cut sick in that thread!
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    Post by RandomSil Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:36 pm

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    What you boys think of this team? I had a computer pick it for me, so it must be genius.
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:42 pm

    Maubbs in the auto select team.

    The universe is just telling you it isnt' going to be your year again Random haha
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:40 am

    @Rhinoceroo

    Welshy ratings for:

    main team

    Smith 130, King 20-40
    McGuire 48-52 JWH 35-45 AFB 30-40 (PKaf)
    Surges 55-60 Taupau 50-55 Klemmer 48-52 KBrom 35-45 (Simpkins, Stimson)
    SJ 50-55, Maloney 30-45, Guth 35-40 (Hingano)
    SMat 35-45 Idris 20-40 (Kelly, Scott)
    RTS 40-55 Slater 30-40 Hayne 35-55 (Rennings, Drew)

    726 - 894 - avg 810

    son's team

    Hodgson 50 Farah 48-60
    JWH 35-45 Gurgess 35-50 Wallace 30-40 (PKaf)
    Surgess 110-120, KBrom 35-45, SMat 35-45 (Butcher, Simpkins, Stimson)
    SJ 50-55 DCE 50-55 Maloney 30-45 Austin 35-45
    Hurrell 30-45 Idris 20-40 (Kelly, Scott)
    RTS 40-55 Hayne 35-55 Holmes 30-45(Rennings, Drew)

    698 - 895 - avg 796.5
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    Post by Spectre Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:47 am

    This ones a winner.

    Smith, Macca
    McGuire, JWH, AFB, Wallace
    Surgess, ET, KBrom, Lane, nuffiex2
    Norman, Hokko, Elgey, Hingano
    Whare, Idris, PMat, Scott
    RTS, Holmes, Hayne, Uate, Python

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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:51 am

    Spectre wrote:This ones a winner.

    Smith, Macca
    McGuire, JWH, AFB, Wallace
    Surgess, ET, KBrom, Lane, nuffiex2
    Norman, Hokko, Elgey, Hingano
    Whare, Idris, PMat, Scott
    RTS, Holmes, Hayne, Uate, Python


    Smith 130 Macca 45-55
    McGuire 48-52 JWH 35-45 AFB 30-40 Wallace 30-40
    Surgess 55-60 ET 48-52 KBrom 35-45 Lane, nuffiex2
    Norman 50-60 Hokko 30-45 Elgey 30-35 Hingano
    Whare 25-30 Idris 20-40 PMat, Scott
    RTS 40-55 Holmes 30-45 Hayne 35-55 Uate, Python

    791 - 884 avg - 837.5

    probably highest I seen avg wise
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    Post by Spectre Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:53 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Smith 130 Macca 45-55
    McGuire 48-52 JWH 35-45 AFB 30-40 Wallace 30-40
    Surgess 55-60 ET 48-52 KBrom 35-45 Lane, nuffiex2
    Norman 50-60 Hokko 30-45 Elgey 30-35 Hingano
    Whare 25-30 Idris 20-40 PMat, Scott
    RTS 40-55 Holmes 30-45 Hayne 35-55 Uate, Python

    791 - 884 avg  - 837.5

    probably highest I seen avg wise

    The problem is it's the exact cap amount. 0 left.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:54 am

    Spectre wrote:

    The problem is it's the exact cap amount. 0 left.

    based on my unqualified expected averages that is Laugh 3
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    Post by Spectre Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:00 am

    Welshy wrote:

    based on my unqualified expected averages that is Laugh 3

    Nonsense, I think you're highly qualified.

    Make sure you let everyone know that my team trumps all.
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    Post by ryzo90 Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:03 am

    Smith, CKing
    Vaughan, JWH, Gurgess, PKauf
    Surgess, Carty, KBrom, Hess, Nuff, Nuff
    SJ, Maloney, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Whare, RJenn
    TTrbo, RTS, Hayne, Uate, Python
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:18 am

    ryzo90 wrote:Smith, CKing
    Vaughan, JWH, Gurgess, PKauf
    Surgess, Carty, KBrom, Hess, Nuff, Nuff
    SJ, Maloney, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Whare, RJenn
    TTrbo, RTS, Hayne, Uate, Python

    Smith 130 CKing 20-40
    Vaughan 40-45 JWH 35-45 Gurgess 35-55 PKauf
    Surgess 55-60 Carty 52 KBrom 35-45 Hess 30-40, Nuff, Nuff
    SJ 50-55 Maloney 30-45 Elgey 30-35 Hingano
    SMat 35-45 Idris 20-40 Whare, RJenn
    TTrbo 42-50 RTS 40-55 Hayne 35-55 Uate, Python

    714 - 892 - AVG 803
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:50 am

    Guns and Cows

    Smith, McInnes
    Gurgess, DSaifiti, Cowboys bench prop, Cow
    Surgess, ETaylor, Jack DeBelin, KBrom, Stimpson, nuff
    Norman, ATaylor, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Kelly, Scott
    Slater, RTS, Hayne, Phythian, Jennings

    Trying to swap Hess for Chambers/milne via SMat but can't find the cash, Ideally I want dual FR fro Surgess/JDB so I can swap them into the FR at Gurgess expense, switch SMat into the 2RF and bring in Chambers/Milne


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    Post by RandomSil Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:50 am

    ryzo90 wrote:Smith, CKing
    Vaughan, JWH, Gurgess, PKauf
    Surgess, Carty, KBrom, Hess, Nuff, Nuff
    SJ, Maloney, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Whare, RJenn
    TTrbo, RTS, Hayne, Uate, Python

    HOK: Just take note that King scored terribly when not getting big minutes. So ideally he needs to be playing 50+ minutes to have a fair crack at making cash. Milchcow has done a really good breakdown on him that has put me off of him slightly.

    FRF:
    Vaughan I think is great when he gets minutes. That is the problem when it comes to the Dragons pack. Last year the breakout star was meant to be Leeson Ah Mau but he just didn't make the minutes due to the logjam that is the Dragons forward pack. Though it has eased up in some sense. If Vaughan can make 50+ minutes a game, which is what he needs ideally to push himself into that more low-tier gun status then he is a great pick. Though with guys like Packer, Ah Mau, Host and Lui being there it could make it easier. Though I could see Mathews, Sims, Marketo joining that forward rotation with Frizell, Thompson, De Belin in the 2RF. It is just risky because his minutes are so up in the air. JWH and Gurgess could return to gun status so are decent picks. Hard to see P. Kaufusi improving too much on his 20 minutes last year. He could maybe get 30 minutes but he would definitely be a slow burn at making cash.

    2RF:
    Kevin Proctor was averaging 70 minutes last season. If Kenny Bromwich can transition from 40 minutes to 70 minutes that would be a sizable jump and enough for him to push into gun status. However that is almost double his playing time last season. I am not saying he can't do it, just that it is a leap of faith with a stacked backrow. I also personally don't like Hess due to his price. I just don't know how much I see his minutes increasing this year. He could get consistent minutes, but his scores from last season are all boosted by tries. In 8 games he scored a try in 4 of them. Not saying he can't keep that strike rate, but he just looks too risky for his price tag of $267k.

    HLF: I really like the Maloney pick if he can kick on his scores a little to where he previously has been at. He is around 10 points underpriced. Though I do believe Chad Townsend has had that impact on others before. IIRC.

    CTR: Copy and pasting Sione Mata'Utia - S. Mata'Utia could become a keeper in the CTR position it looks like a better option to start him in the 2RF and look at guys like Hurrell, Whare, Lafai, Chambers and hell even Gagai potentially. This isn't a must do move, but it could be a way of replacing Hess and downgrading him to someone else who can make some cash. I like the rest of it, there are also guys like Kelly, Scott and Olive potentially who could be cheapies you could look at if you want to start Whare.

    WFB: Not convinced on Valentine Holmes? Literally the only issue, question or concern.
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    Post by RandomSil Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:51 am

    Also I need to start compiling a list of issues/write ups I do for individual players. Then I can just copy and paste it all and adjust as necessary. Would save time.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:09 am

    Any chance JDB or Surgess get added FRF dual 2RF before the season starts?
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:15 am

    Welshy wrote:@Rhinoceroo

    Welshy ratings for:

    main team

    Smith 130, King 20-40
    McGuire 48-52 JWH 35-45 AFB 30-40 (PKaf)
    Surges 55-60 Taupau 50-55 Klemmer 48-52 KBrom 35-45 (Simpkins, Stimson)
    SJ 50-55, Maloney 30-45, Guth 35-40 (Hingano)
    SMat 35-45 Idris 20-40 (Kelly, Scott)
    RTS 40-55 Slater 30-40 Hayne 35-55 (Rennings, Drew)

    726 - 894 - avg 810

    son's team

    Hodgson 50 Farah 48-60
    JWH 35-45 Gurgess 35-50 Wallace 30-40 (PKaf)
    Surgess 110-120, KBrom 35-45, SMat 35-45 (Butcher, Simpkins, Stimson)
    SJ 50-55 DCE 50-55 Maloney 30-45 Austin 35-45
    Hurrell 30-45 Idris 20-40 (Kelly, Scott)
    RTS 40-55 Hayne 35-55 Holmes 30-45(Rennings, Drew)

    698 - 895 - avg 796.5

    Cheers Welshy
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    Post by RandomSil Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:37 am

    Welshy wrote:Guns and Cows

    Smith, McInnes
    Fifita, DSaifiti, Cowboys bench prop, Cow
    Surgess, ETaylor, KBrom, Hess, Stimpson, nuff
    Norman, ATaylor, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Kelly, Scott
    Slater, RTS, Hayne, Phythian, Jennings

    trying to swap Hess for Chambers/milne via SMate but can't find the cash

    HOK: What are you going to do if a Bench Hooker is named for the Dragons? Other than that concern if he plays the 80 minutes he scores like an absolute monster.

    FRF: Daniel Safiti is interesting, if he can push for more minutes this season he is capable of scoring well. He had a PPM of 0.9 last season and only went over 1ppm 3 times and only 1 try in the game. So the guy looks to have solid base stats to keep up the PPM. The only issue is he does seem to miss tackles now and then. Almost 2 per game, but that is something after a full year he may have improved on. With all the changes to the Knights forward pack (Sims brothers departing, Pauli Pauli injury, Robbie Rochow leaving. It opens the door for him to play 50-60 minutes which could result on a score of 40 - 55 point average. (Note: I did what I think is the absolute worst he would score on average under those minutes and what is the best he can look to achieve consistently.) I also think there is no risk as it is likely he will get at least 50 minutes and it is very unlikely his PPM drops below 0.75PPM from his stellar 0.9PPM. Which even with a significant drop wouldn't make him lose cash.

    2RF: Kevin Proctor was averaging 70 minutes last season. If Kenny Bromwich can transition from 40 minutes to 70 minutes that would be a sizable jump and enough for him to push into gun status. However that is almost double his playing time last season. I am not saying he can't do it, just that it is a leap of faith with a stacked backrow. Although for safety sake if he jumped to 55 minutes. Which is still a decent size bump to depend on he would improve his scores by around 10 points on average. Which wouldn’t push him to a true gun status, but would be a viable long-term keeper who will make you cash to make the trade up easier. He also shouldn’t lose cash. So you are hoping for a lot if you want him to be a gun, but he looks alright to be a mid-tier guy who you can make some money and be traded up. Just don’t expect 50 points games.

    HLF: Taylor is a superstar and with Elgey beside him he will do the bulk of the kicking. While Peats and Hayne will play a role and take some kick meters away. They should also help accent Taylors attack. He has the potential to be a consistent 45-50 point scorer this year if not more. The only factor floating around is Tyrone Roberts. When Roberts plays it hampers Ash Taylors scores to a degree. Ashley Taylor only scored over 50 points once when Roberts played out of 17 games (Which involved a try), meanwhile he scored 50 points in 2 out of the 4 games when Tyrone Roberts was out. (None involving a try.) This is all because Tyrone Roberts does a lot of kicking, which Kane Elgey does a lot less of. If Tyrone Roberts is on the bench or not in the 17, then Ashley Taylor is your man. If Tyrone Roberts is starting in the halves, look elsewhere or expect mediocre scores.

    CTR: S. Mata'Utia could become a keeper in the CTR position it looks like a better option to start him in the 2RF and look at guys like Idris, Hurrell, Whare, Lafai, Chambers and hell even Gagai potentially. Then you have cheapies like Scott, Jennings, Kelly, and potentially J. Olive currently who could be rookie options if you wanted to replace a 2RF rookie.

    WFB: Running with Slater in your 17. I currently have him, but not in a starting spot. But hey live life on the edge right?

    Overall:
    You already want to swap Hess out for Mata'Utia which makes perfect sense. How much cash do you have left in the bank? Have you looked at other alternative instead of Chambers that may interest you? Otherwise you could look at swapping out Taylor if my spiel regarding Roberts puts you off him for a cheaper option.

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