2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 7

Cheers for the ideas lads

McInnes, Brailey
DSaiiti, Gurgess, FKaufusi, NPR
JDB, Surgess, ET, SMat, Sironen, NPR
SJ, Lamb, Elgey, NPR
TTurbo, Idris, Scott, Cotric
Tedesco, RTS, Hayne, Pythian, Suli

Alright a lil rejig, and that leaves me 66k for things.

AL wrote:

Yeah CS9 is a tough one this year, I see the merit in McInnes and Brailey but every time I have started without Smith I have regretted it and it takes serious surgery to get him in.  I have him at the moment but if I go the other way I would want Fifita or Gallen for a Captain, the other options carry a bit more risk I feel.  Could be exciting choosing between RTS, Tedesco, Hayne or SJ though!

Yeah, I can't bring myself to start without CS9. But then I do have Fifita and Gal and Teddy and SJ. I guess in theory I could go McInnes Brailey and that would gimme cash to strengthen a few mid rangers but TBH, I've tried and I just end up coming back to the same thing everytime.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

That's fair enough with the betting I understand that but what I don't like is what happens when a couple of years ago Cameron Smith got pretty bad back spasms in the final warm up. Coaches cant plan for that what if they didn't name a hooker in the original 21? So they can pick anyone because the team is already set? Surely if that were to happen a few mins before kick off how does that affect applying for special consideration from the nrl?

Sorry i'm not directing these questions to you, more in general haha I just wanted to voice my thinking

Yeah not sure MF. From memory though Cam wasn't replaced by a specialist hooker was he? I remember the game but was at a party so had a few on board. Thought he was just replaced by the 18th man with the utility or someone filling in.

Most teams warm up with an 18th man and carry a utility of sorts on the bench, so I assume the plan won't change much in that respect. Seeing specialist halves or hookers on the extended bench though may make fantasy coaches nervous. At least you know to make the effort to check the final team.

Mighty Fishes wrote:

That's fair enough with the betting I understand that but what I don't like is what happens when a couple of years ago Cameron Smith got pretty bad back spasms in the final warm up. Coaches cant plan for that what if they didn't name a hooker in the original 21? So they can pick anyone because the team is already set? Surely if that were to happen a few mins before kick off how does that affect applying for special consideration from the nrl?

Sorry i'm not directing these questions to you, more in general haha I just wanted to voice my thinking

Typically this is probs a knee jerk reaction from NRL HQ as it usually is MF. Implement a ruling without really thinking it through cos they are a bunch of boffins. For transparency in betting terms (a current "blight on the games image" according to Greedyberg) it is great but it realistically allows no flexibility for the teams themselves.

What it will do is make teams more inclined to name a utility on their bench all the time. That way they are covered (at least up until the team list announcement 1 hour prior to the game). Following that, I think it'll just be tough bikkies

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Cheers for the ideas lads

McInnes, Brailey
DSaiiti, Gurgess, FKaufusi, NPR
JDB, Surgess, ET, SMat, Sironen, NPR
SJ, Lamb, Elgey, NPR
TTurbo, Idris, Scott, Cotric
Tedesco, RTS, Hayne, Pythian, Suli

Alright a lil rejig, and that leaves me 66k for things.

Looks much better to me!

Edit: Talakai could stay in the NPR centres over one of the other two pending team lists obviously.

Do we think the cheapness of RTS and Hayne, 2 genuine previous fantasy superstars are blinding people from starting the season with a cheapie like Phythian because he plays for the knights and Feeney was horrocious

I mean if RTS and Hayne were both $400,000 I don't think there would be any arguments to running them and a basement guy because you are forking out $800,000 on 2 players.

Do you look at RTS and Hayne as mid rangers with potential or just guns

Haynes a cash cow!!

Welshy wrote:Do we think the cheapness of RTS and Hayne, 2 genuine previous fantasy superstars are blinding people from starting the season with a cheapie like Phythian because he plays for the knights and Feeney was horrocious

I mean if RTS and Hayne were both $400,000 I don't think there would be any arguments to running them and a basement guy because you are forking out $800,000 on 2 players.

Do you look at RTS and Hayne as mid rangers with potential or just guns

I don't think it's fair to call either of them guns currently. Sure, they were in the past and have the POTENTIAL to be again so therefor I'd say they're middies with potential. Certainly more of an upside than other mid rangers out there.

If you want to get real picky you can look Haynes stats for last year (albeit a very small sample) and on those merits you wouldn't call him a gun by any stretch.

I'm not saying both of them can't/wont be, just stating that I wouldn't out and out say they are 100% locked in guns for this year.

I will not run Python in my 17 due to the fact that there is better options out there. Simple. Nothing to do with the Feeney factor as each player is different. Is the next Bris 7 gonna drop the ball in a GF just cos he took over from Hunt? Nope. So why should we bundle Python in with Feeney?

Mearcats wrote:

I don't think it's fair to call either of them guns currently. Sure, they were in the past and have the POTENTIAL to be again so therefor I'd say they're middies with potential. Certainly more of an upside than other mid rangers out there.

If you want to get real picky you can look Haynes stats for last year (albeit a very small sample) and on those merits you wouldn't call him a gun by any stretch.

I'm not saying both of them can't/wont be, just stating that I wouldn't out and out say they are 100% locked in guns for this year.

I will not run Python in my 17 due to the fact that there is better options out there. Simple. Nothing to do with the Feeney factor as each player is different. Is the next Bris 7 gonna drop the ball in a GF just cos he took over from Hunt? Nope. So why should we bundle Python in with Feeney?

I agree with your bottom paragraph 100% but I'm still considering running Phythian with those pair

Hayne played in the halves and had just returned to the game, I'll say they are both GUNS and both average well over 40 a game

I also think if Ponga gets that R1 start with Winterstein gone, Green finds it very, very difficult to leave him out when he returns

Welshy wrote:I also think if Ponga gets that R1 start with Winterstein gone, Green finds it very, very difficult to leave him out when he returns

so if running with python, npr's are ? ponga and cotric?

mulvy wrote:

so if running with python, npr's are ? ponga and cotric?

If I did Ponga/Cotric/Jennings/Uate/Burns/Suli/Fogarty

pick 2 from that bunch

Welshy wrote:
I agree with your bottom paragraph 100% but I'm still considering running Phythian with those pair

Hayne played in the halves and had just returned to the game, I'll say they are both GUNS and both average well over 40 a game

Oh for sure, I don't have a problem with anyone running him in their 17. Plenty of others will run someone like Ponga, Suli or Burns (whoever gets named and looks secure) because of the Feeney effect though with I think is a laff.

I'm not prepared to call either of em guns yet. Hayne is more likely for me due to fitness, lack of injuries and whatnot, RTS may struggle but has more pure talent IMHO. They can both prove me wrong and I'm fine with that, personally I'll run with Teddy as my gun and those two as my midrangers with potential. That way if either of em flop if don't feel disappointed... Like my wife does following a session with me...


























On the beers sick fux!

Mearcats wrote:

Oh for sure, I don't have a problem with anyone running him in their 17. Plenty of others will run someone like Ponga, Suli or Burns (whoever gets named and looks secure) because of the Feeney effect though with I think is a laff.

I'm not prepared to call either of em guns yet. Hayne is more likely for me due to fitness, lack of injuries and whatnot, RTS may struggle but has more pure talent IMHO. They can both prove me wrong and I'm fine with that, personally I'll run with Teddy as my gun and those two as my midrangers with potential. That way if either of em flop if don't feel disappointed... Like my wife does following a session with me...


























On the beers sick fux!

Its either

Tedesco + Gurgess

or

Fifita + Phythian

Welshy wrote:
If I did Ponga/Cotric/Jennings/Uate/Burns/Suli/Fogarty

pick 2 from that bunch

no thanks, but it's certainly worth thinking about. On TLT I'm not expecting truckloads of cheapies and will build the team from the ground beef up.

I'd have no dramas running Phythlan in the 17 if I had 2 bench NPR's who were playing. Just depends where these cheap guys fall imo.

superbucks wrote:I'd have no dramas running Phythlan in the 17 if I had 2 bench NPR's who were playing. Just depends where these cheap guys fall imo.

what he said

Welshy wrote:I also think if Ponga gets that R1 start with Winterstein gone, Green finds it very, very difficult to leave him out when he returns

That will all depend on how he plays. If he is given a bit of freedom to play his natural game and goes mental then it will be hard to bring slow as winter back into the squad. If he gets pressure added and has to be ultra defensive I think he'll have a wheel wobble and they'll drop him.

The other part to that story is that apparently Cows coaching staff are privately fuming (still!) about him leaving and Green has little to no interest in spending any further time developing him as a player. The only reason they'll play him is for their own agenda, i.e. he's winning them games.

superbucks wrote:I'd have no dramas running Phythlan in the 17 if I had 2 bench NPR's who were playing. Just depends where these cheap guys fall imo.

mulvy wrote:

what he said

over the last few weeks a few are emerging and TLT will throw up a few more happens EVERY single year, someone no one has talked about bags a start somewhere already guys like Cotric, Ponga, Burns, Suli are looking like potentially grabbing starting spots when it didnt look liekly a few weeks mack.

can't remember the saifiti brothers getting much talk last pre season then both were in the r1 squad

Welshy wrote:



Its either

Tedesco + Gurgess

or

Fifita + Phythian

Smith?

If you have Smith (the reliable captaincy option) then you definitely run with Teddy and Gurgess over Fifita and Python. Option A averages higher week in week out guaranteed