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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 2

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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:57 pm

    I think with the stats in that article they'll stick with Manu at centre for those people that are for some reason going with Mitchell
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    Post by standard-issue Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:59 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
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    Yep, can't rememboer the wash up though.

    Centres from good teams concede less tries than centres from bad teams.


    Haha, I remember Naiquama was 2nd or something?
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    Post by Kalkadoon Warrior Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:01 pm

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    2nd last

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    Post by Mulvy Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:02 pm

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    I believe so mate, last year his average minutes were down 4 from his 2016 minutes, I'd put that down to Watson becoming a more important cog in the team and having more of a role

    Without him, its only really Radley I can think off who might have the same effect

    Just revisiting this. Minutes being down 4 minutes, 3.5 of those minutes are purely due to the 3 minute concussion game and not the Watson effect. But your suggestion has still piqued my interest. As you say, taking out the 3 minute game improves his average by 2.6 to 52.8. From round 12 (except the injury game) they ran an 80 minute hooker for avg 60.3 (one try), 60.5 if you include the finals. And the year before avg 59 with much the same minutes avg 76. Do they continue with the 80 minute Friend? Who should I be wary of on the bench/rotation?



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    Post by Kalkadoon Warrior Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:02 pm

    If I remember correctly nearly everyone that played centre at the tigers was in the bottom 5.

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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:04 pm

    Kalkadoon Warrior wrote:If I remember correctly nearly everyone that played centre at the tigers was in the bottom 5.

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    Esan Marsters was actually very high up the least in a positive way. Naiqama wasn't in the bottom 5 and Suli and Chee Kam were dreadful
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:05 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Centres from good teams concede less tries than centres from bad teams.


    Basically every centre that isn't from the Storm is a bad defender haha.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:08 pm

    Alfie wrote:The reason I brought it up is for the people with Latrell Mitchell. Do u have him in your team thinking he'll play centre or wing?

    He'll play centre but he actually scores better re fantasy on the wing because he gets more tackle breaks running it out from dummy half with his wicked fend.
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    Post by standard-issue Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:09 pm

    Nofzilla wrote:I'm not Ivan Cleary, but as a tigers fan this is how I see our pack:
    8. Packer
    9. Liddle/McIlwrick
    10. Matulino
    11. Lawrence
    12. McQueen
    13. Taylor
    14. Twal
    15. Sue/Eisenhuth
    16. Aloiai
    17. Marshall

    I don't see Eisenhuth starting at 13. Last year when he did, that was more because of our injuries in the second row rather than him outplaying Taylor. We had both Lawrence and Aloiai out with injuries and I reckon Cleary moved Taylor there as cover and not because Eisenhuth is a better lock. I believe he's still good enough to be in our 17 but I think he may play as prop otherwise Sue will be in the 17. Once again, this is just my opinion as a tigers fan

    Yeah, agree this will be pretty much it.

    I wonder if Cleary has contemplated switching Reynolds back to 9 and starting Benji? Left field but I actually think I'd rather that then have to rely on ET guiding the pack around.
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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:09 pm

    Naiqama was bottom 10 though which could see Marsters actually start at centre with Milne. I think these stats do mostly follow the trend of best team to worst but there are a few outliers that are worth mentioning. Dean Whare and Euan Aitken surprised me. I thought they were two of the best defensive centres in the comp but they averaged 1 and 0.92 try casues a game respectively.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:09 pm

    Alfie wrote:I think with the stats in that article they'll stick with Manu at centre for those people that are for some reason going with Mitchell

    If Manu is picked at ctr then Ferguson will be on the wing not Mitchell.
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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:10 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    If Manu is picked at ctr then Ferguson will be on the wing not Mitchell.

    Why dat?
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    Post by standard-issue Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:11 pm

    Alfie wrote:
    Kalkadoon Warrior wrote:If I remember correctly nearly everyone that played centre at the tigers was in the bottom 5.

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    Esan Marsters was actually very high up the least in a positive way. Naiqama wasn't in the bottom 5 and Suli and Chee Kam were dreadful

    Yeah, I remember Chee Kam. I thought Naiquama was as well? Maybe I was just expecting it.
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    Post by Kalkadoon Warrior Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:12 pm

    So much talk about Latrell.... I admired him in 2016 but he was irrelevant last year..... am I missing something or are people just not over him yet?

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    Post by standard-issue Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:13 pm

    Alfie wrote:Naiqama was bottom 10 though which could see Marsters actually start at centre with Milne. I think these stats do mostly follow the trend of best team to worst but there are a few outliers that are worth mentioning. Dean Whare and Euan Aitken surprised me. I thought they were two of the best defensive centres in the comp but they averaged 1 and 0.92 try casues a game respectively.

    Yeah, Aitken is a surprise. Unfortunately I think Marsters is going to have to bide his time.
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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:14 pm

    SI wrote:

    Yeah, I remember Chee Kam.  I thought Naiquama was as well?  Maybe I was just expecting it.

    I looked back at the article. Naiqama technically actually is in the bottom 5. There's a lot of people tied on 1 try cause a game down the bottom
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:15 pm

    Alfie wrote:

    Why dat?

    Because he's better at taking the high ball from kicks re defense/attack plus he's played more on the wing than Mitchell whether it be the Roosters, Origin or Australia. As I posted above I would love Mitchell to be on the wing re fantasy but it won't happen unless injuries occur.
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    Post by Kalkadoon Warrior Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:17 pm

    I think the tigers centres defensive deficiencies were just a reflection on the whole team. Chew Kam is actually a sound defender and lets face it the centres were covering for Brooks and Moses who are dead set turnstiles. Bit unfair really.

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    Post by Alfie Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:21 pm

    Kalkadoon Warrior wrote:I think the tigers centres defensive deficiencies were just a reflection on the whole team. Chew Kam is actually a sound defender and lets face it the centres were covering for Brooks and Moses who are dead set turnstiles. Bit unfair really.

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    True, I'd love to see how many try causes Brooks has Laugh 3
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    Post by standard-issue Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:22 pm

    Kalkadoon Warrior wrote:I think the tigers centres defensive deficiencies were just a reflection on the whole team. Chew Kam is actually a sound defender and lets face it the centres were covering for Brooks and Moses who are dead set turnstiles. Bit unfair really.

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    Chee Kam was a little disappointing in general though. I watched a bit of him in NSW Cup and he was looking the goods. That was mainly at 2nd Row though. I really thought he would come on for us, but as you say, hard when the whole team is below average.

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