2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 5

Messing around with these options. Not really as clear cut as this but trying to isolate with/without Smith...

Smith + having to play Hiku or another basement priced WFB (on field) and Garvey/Havili (interchange)
or
Cook + Dufty + Evans (Hiku and Garvey/Havili as emergencies)

I have Fifita/Tedesco/Brown locked in so not having Smith doesnt cost me a clear captain choice. It worries me not having Smith though.... all of my previous attempts at a team have not had Smith in them

NewyCoop wrote:

From the Fantasy Website:

"If a member of your starting 17 (13 on field and 4 interchange players) do not play in any given round an Emergency will be automatically assigned. This Emergency’s score will be automatically added to the total points scored by a team in any given round. The assigned Emergency will be the highest-numbered scoring player from the Reserves Bench who receives a score for the round and matches the position of the non-playing Starting 13 player. If this auto-emergency player is listed within the Interchange Players they will be replaced as an Interchange Player by the highest-ranked eligible Emergency not currently in the Scoring 17. This process of automatic emergency substitution will continue as described until there are no more eligible emergency replacement players. If no player from the Reserves is eligible to substitute for a non-playing member of the Scoring 17 no emergency substitution will be made. If the process of applying automatic emergencies results in fewer than 17 players scoring points a team’s total score for that round will be the aggregate total of only those players who have scored points"

TL:DR: If your starting CTR or WFB pulls out and you don't have a CTR/WFB in 18-21 you won't get an auto emergency. If someone in 14-17 pulls out it doesn't matter what position your AE is.

Thanks mate. I was thinking as an example;
A starting front rower pulls out, you have a front rower in your 14-17 who you replace him with. Then you can replace him with anybody in your 18-21 and make them a reserve.
Problem is, how many coaches will be in this position and the players they want to move around, have already played and will be locked out, so they're stuffed anyway.

I think Pacey's trying to say everyone is puting to much emphasis on interchange players to provide a AE. If that what he is saying then I tend to agree.

My priority is to have the best cash cows to make money, not the best DPP in case I need an AE. I'll just have to ride me luck. If I find a great cash cow who is also a DPP then thats a bonus

Pacey's Best wrote:Am I right in thinking that now the AE's will only come from positions 18-21 so I'm not going to worry about covering every position from these 4 spots. Won't it be better to reserve these spots to the best cash cows that will make the most money. After a few rounds you can start planning to cover all these positions with suitable DPP's.

AEs will come from positions 14-21.

If for example one of your starting halves doesn't play and you have Connor Watson in position 15 - Watson will move into your starting team, and whoever is in position 18 will become a reserve

Storm have named what would be very close to, if not exactly, what will be their rnd 1 side for the WCC.

Hoffman starting in back row. Stimson in the 18.

Bulldogs: 1. Moses Mbye, 2. Brett Morris, 3. Josh Morris, 4. William Hopoate, 5. Marcelo Montoya, 6. Matt Frawley, 7. Kieran Foran, 8. Lachlan Burr, 9. Michael Lichaa, 10. David Klemmer, 11. Josh Jackson, 12. Raymond Faitala- Mariner, 13. Danny Fualalo . Interchange: 14. Jack Nelsen, 15. Greg Eastwood, 16. Adam Elliott, 17. Jeremy Marshall-King, 19. Francis Tualau, 20. Tom Carr, 21. Josh Cleeland, 22. Jarred Anderson, 23. Asipeli Fine, 24. Josh Bergamin, 25. Lachlan Lewis, 26. Kerrod Holland, 27. Zac Woolford, 28. Rhyse Martin, 29. Jayden Okunbor, 30. Ofahiki Ogden, 31. Renouf To'omaga, 32. John Olive


No Woods or Tolman so still no idea where he will play

bluetige wrote:I think Pacey's trying to say everyone is puting to much emphasis on interchange players to provide a AE. If that what he is saying then I tend to agree.

My priority is to have the best cash cows to make money, not the best DPP in case I need an AE. I'll just have to ride me luck. If I find a great cash cow who is also a DPP then thats a bonus

Yea mate, your right. I have been spending way too much time on having some AE cover when probably 90% of the time, players will be locked out and can't be moved around anyway.

Emergency Rules - They are not 100% consistent with their use of the word 'emergency' here, but here is my attempt to make it clearer, by bolding some terms with some positonal numbers added.

It is clear that a starting 13 player can be replaced by anyone in 14-21, and not just 18-21.

Reserves - 14-21
Interchange 14-17


These are players whose priority-order is numbered 5 to 8 on your Reserves Bench.
A player from your Starting 17 who doesn't take the field will be replaced by a player from your Reserves Bench (14-21) based on the rules for applying auto-emergencies.
If a member of your starting 17 (13 on field and 4 interchange players) do not play in any given round an Emergency will be automatically assigned.
This Emergency’s score will be automatically added to the total points scored by a team in any given round.
The assigned Emergency will be the highest-numbered scoring player from the Reserves Bench (14-21) who receives a score for the round and matches the position of the non-playing Starting 13 player.
If this auto-emergency player is listed within the Interchange Players (14-17) they will be replaced as an Interchange Player by the highest-ranked eligible Emergency not currently in the Scoring 17. This process of automatic emergency substitution will continue as described until there are no more eligible emergency replacement players.
If no player from the Reserves (14-21) is eligible to substitute for a non-playing member of the Scoring 17 no emergency substitution will be made.
If the process of applying automatic emergencies results in fewer than 17 players scoring points a team’s total score for that round will be the aggregate total of only those players who have scored points.

bluetige wrote:Bulldogs: 1. Moses Mbye, 2. Brett Morris, 3. Josh Morris, 4. William Hopoate, 5. Marcelo Montoya, 6. Matt Frawley, 7. Kieran Foran, 8. Lachlan Burr, 9. Michael Lichaa, 10. David Klemmer, 11. Josh Jackson, 12. Raymond Faitala- Mariner, 13. Danny Fualalo . Interchange: 14. Jack Nelsen, 15. Greg Eastwood, 16. Adam Elliott, 17. Jeremy Marshall-King, 19. Francis Tualau, 20. Tom Carr, 21. Josh Cleeland, 22. Jarred Anderson, 23. Asipeli Fine, 24. Josh Bergamin, 25. Lachlan Lewis, 26. Kerrod Holland, 27. Zac Woolford, 28. Rhyse Martin, 29. Jayden Okunbor, 30. Ofahiki Ogden, 31. Renouf To'omaga, 32. John Olive

No Woods or Tolman so still no idea where he will play

Elliot on the bench in a weakened forward pack. A sign of things to come or just trying things out in the trial?

@Bluetige

Interesting Adam Elliot on the bench. Think he started a few rounds last year, at the end of the season I think?

New coach and all though.

Great minds Michcow....

my tv broke wrote:Panthers Team for trial:

Dylan Edwards
Christian Crichton
Tyrone Peachey
Dean Whare
Maika Sivo
James Maloney
Nathan Cleary
James Tamou
Wayde Egan
Tim Browne
Isaah Yeo
Viliame Kikau
Trent Merrin

INTERCHANGE
Sam McKendry
Nick Lui-Toso
James Fisher-Harris
Jack Hetherington
Corey Waddell
Kaide Ellis
Moses Leota
Sione Katoa
Jarome Luai
Tom Eisenhuth
Caleb Aekins
Liam Martin
Adam Keighran

Other than CHN, who would take Kikau's place in the starting team?
Maybe Peachey if they get their full strength backline together?

Hopefully CHN can miss the first few weeks and make Kikau a good option.

Milchcow wrote:

AEs will come from positions 14-21.

If for example one of your starting halves doesn't play and you have Connor Watson in position 15 - Watson will move into your starting team, and whoever is in position 18 will become a reserve

Trouble is that Newcastle have played already and Connor Watson is locked out and can't be moved. Sorry to over think this, but I reckon this will happen more often than not..............

Pacey's Best wrote:

Trouble is that Newcastle have played already and Connor Watson is locked out and can't be moved. Sorry to over think this, but I reckon this will happen more often than not..............

Doesn't matter if Newcastle have played or not. The new rankled reserves mean that Watson will automatically take the starting spot if he is the highest ranked half on your reserves bench (14-21).
And Watson't spot on the bench will be filled by whoever is in position 18.

Milchcow wrote:

Other than CHN, who would take Kikau's place in the starting team?
Maybe Peachey if they get their full strength backline together?

Hopefully CHN can miss the first few weeks and make Kikau a good option.

Isn't McKendry making noise about being back firing from injury?

Finch wrote:@Bluetige

Interesting Adam Elliot on the bench. Think he started a few rounds last year, at the end of the season I think?

New coach and all though.

I'm thinking woods to come in for Burr and Tolman possibly for Fualao who goes to the bench with Eastwood, Elliot and someone else. Just a guess, a doggies supporter would know more than me though

ryno_ wrote:

Isn't McKendry making noise about being back firing from injury?

McKendry is a prop though, surely he isn't in contention for an edge backrow spot?

James Fisher Harris might play there, but I've read in a few places that he is considered part of the prop rotation now.

Milchcow wrote:

Doesn't matter if Newcastle have played or not. The new rankled reserves mean that Watson will automatically take the starting spot if he is the highest ranked half on your reserves bench (14-21).
And Watson't spot on the bench will be filled by whoever is in position 18.

OK, that's alright then. Thanks so much Milchcow......................

Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos
Friday, 16 February
AAMI Park

1. Billy Slater
2. Suliasi Vunivalu
3. Will Chambers
4. Curtis Scott
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Cameron Munster
7. Brodie Croft
8. Jesse Bromwich
9. Cameron Smith
10. Tim Glasby
11. Felise Kaufusi
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Dale Finucane

14. Brandon Smith
15. Nelson Asofa Solomona
16. Kenny Bromwich
17. Christian Welch
18. Joe Stimson
19. Young Tonumaipea
20. Tui Kamikamica
21. Ryley Jacks

Pacey's Best wrote:Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos
Friday, 16 February
AAMI Park

1. Billy Slater
2. Suliasi Vunivalu
3. Will Chambers
4. Curtis Scott
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Cameron Munster
7. Brodie Croft
8. Jesse Bromwich
9. Cameron Smith
10. Tim Glasby
11. Felise Kaufusi
12. Ryan Hoffman
13. Dale Finucane

14. Brandon Smith
15. Nelson Asofa Solomona
16. Kenny Bromwich
17. Christian Welch
18. Joe Stimson
19. Young Tonumaipea
20. Tui Kamikamica
21. Ryley Jacks

It seems a certaintly that Cam Smith is going to get some bench time this year, no? They are not going to want to let him retire without someone already in the system.

Also I am interested in the interest in NAS. I just cannot see him doing better than the last two years in minutes or scoring (which is already at a high rate)