2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 21

StormTrooper96 wrote:Sharks: Star half Matt Moylan remains in doubt for the blockbuster clash with Melbourne due to a knee issue that has plagued him across the early rounds of 2018.

Moylan has been on restricted training duties this week and has sufficiently recovered from the hamstring injury that ruled him out of last Saturday's win over Parramatta, but a call won't be made until game day on whether he returns to Cronulla's line-up against the Storm.

"It's just a problem with his knee, but he's had it through the trials and through the first couple of rounds. We'll just keep bubbling on with it and hopefully he gets on top of it," coach Shane Flanagan said on Thursday.

If Moylan is scratched Trent Hodkinson will partner Chad Townsend in the halves once more. Luke Lewis has also come through the captain's run unscathed and will return from a foot injury for his first game of the season

Kaufusi is due back next week

"...we'll just keep bubbling..." HOLY FUCK

mattnz wrote:

I have based my whole game in the last 2 rounds on loopholing and have researched it extensively, testing many different scenarios. The optimal way to do it is to play the non player in your 13. The objective is to see 2 or 3 players play before making a decision on which score to get, not just 1.

You don't need to take good advice if you don't want to hear it.

If you play the player in your 13 (say Kennar in WFB) you then can only loop another WFB in your 17-21 if you play the NPR (lets say TPJ because he plays sunday) in your 14-17 you will get your 18's score regardless of position. If that player in spot 18 (lets say Kikau) scores poorly tonight you would then swap TPJ for another 19-21 (Havili) and hope he scores higher than kikau

Is Hiku still worth trading in?

Has he always been a poor tackler? Missed tackles are costing him a few points each week. His pretty much my only choice as a replacement for Kennar

If people want to use the loophole it is up to them. The problem with the whole thing is it makes the game so f#$!ing boring. Completely sucks the fun out of the game.

I would much rather try to follow the players and if they are going to score well and make my selections, rather than waste days running around trying to devise the best loophole just so my score is higher than it was going to be otherwise.

And to those who say "I have to use it because everyone else is doing it". Go find a bridge and jump of it like the rest of them. Take responsibility for your own decisions and stop pessimistically blaming fanhub for your own shortcomings.

It is not cheating, it is not a moral dilemma, but such a boring way to go about life

chitmunkey wrote:Is Hiku still worth trading in?

Has he always been a poor tackler? Missed tackles are costing him a few points each week. His pretty much my only choice as a replacement for Kennar

More than likely his scores will follow the Warriors form (yeah I know, what a paradigm, haha) so if you think they keep playing with some guts and spirit then yeah. Injuries are making a lot of people scramble and decent Centres are limited (I know right, another paradigm) so you could do worse.

SI wrote:

"...we'll just keep bubbling..." HOLY FUCK

I love Flanno... but this is a strange choice of word.

White Lightning wrote:

I'm selling Smith to Murray & Carty to DCE & captaining Jurbo as he's all base stats which guarantees a 50's score.

I did the exact same bud, good luck this week.

My 2 cents -

I am someone who is very passionate about football (all sports for that matter). I love watching any sports that is on TV, especially rugby. I like to try and watch every game every weekend (yes I have a life). Playing NRLF adds to my enjoyment as I don't just follow my own team I follow the players on my fantasy team and hope they play well. With the loopholing, I find it pretty easy to find a couple minutes on the weekend to see "oh shit Kikau scored 15, lets swap Havili with TPJ". I also have some sort of invested interest in the game as I play it for bragging rights, cash, entertainment so I kind of find it interesting that I can scrap up an extra 15 or so points each week to get that little advantage. If you choose not to use it, be my guest, but what's the point in being butthurt because someone else is using it?

B/L wrote:I really dont get the I dont loophole talk.

This isnt Dave Warner ball tampering, its part of the game and is just another element of scoring. no different to selecting a captain and getting double points.

Do you guys go into a shop and pay full retail for an item even when its on sale ?

If it were part of the game, it wouldn't be called loopholing. Otherwise it would just be called insurance scoring or something similar.

Its fair to say a good analogy would be tax avoidance (or minimising if you're K Packer). People that are aware of how to do it, do it, take advantage of a system that supports it, but is it really in good spirit. Its not illegal. SO nothing stopping you.

Pain wrote:Does this loophole work?

In this scenario, to maximize the power of the loophole, play TPJ in your 13 at FRF exchanging him with a non-dual FRF, leave Teddy where he is in 18. Play Kikau at 20. Switch Rochow for a non-dual 2nd Rower.

Now wait for Teddy and Kikau to play. Choose which of their scores you want to get. If you want Teddys score, you can move Griffin into the interchange before he plays and you get his score. If you want Kikaus score you can move Griffin down to 21.

Because TPJ is dual and his team plays late in the round and so do Tigers, you can also switch TPJ and Rochows positions. Without seeing the full squad it is hard to recommend, but normally in this kind of scenario you can see 2 or 3 players play before deciding which score to take.

This is why having the player in the 13 is much better than having them on bench / emergency. You get lots of flexibility and options. Now who needs to keep quiet on what they don't know they are talking about?

OK - too much loophole talk

It all goes in here now

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t661-loopholers-anonymous-a-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy#188747


If you want to talk about how to loophole, if its a good idea to loophole, work out ways to loophole 12 players in a single round, brag about how you loopholed Kikau's 104 points in as captain. Want to rant at fanhub for implementing such a shitty system

All goes in here

Round 4 and I have just about had Fantasy already what a cock up this loophole crap is , its up there with the underarm delivery quite within the rules but a piss poor act, Fanf... can get f... wont be back next year will try Supercoach instead.

Buramada wrote:If people want to use the loophole it is up to them. The problem with the whole thing is it makes the game so f#$!ing boring. Completely sucks the fun out of the game.

I would much rather try to follow the players and if they are going to score well and make my selections, rather than waste days running around trying to devise the best loophole just so my score is higher than it was going to be otherwise.

And to those who say "I have to use it because everyone else is doing it". Go find a bridge and jump of it like the rest of them. Take responsibility for your own decisions and stop pessimistically blaming fanhub for your own shortcomings.

It is not cheating, it is not a moral dilemma, but such a boring way to go about life

Its a game within a game, which is great for those that are tactically astute.

Milchcow wrote:OK - too much loophole talk

It all goes in here now

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t661-loopholers-anonymous-a-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy#188747


If you want to talk about how to loophole, if its a good idea to loophole, work out ways to loophole 12 players in a single round, brag about how you loopholed Kikau's 104 points in as captain. Want to rant at fanhub for implementing such a shitty system

All goes in here

Such a wise and honourable cow

Fortitude wrote:

B/L wrote:I really dont get the I dont loophole talk.

This isnt Dave Warner ball tampering, its part of the game and is just another element of scoring. no different to selecting a captain and getting double points.

Do you guys go into a shop and pay full retail for an item even when its on sale ?

If it were part of the game, it wouldn't be called loopholing. Otherwise it would just be called insurance scoring or something similar.

Its fair to say a good analogy would be tax avoidance (or minimising if you're K Packer). People that are aware of how to do it, do it, take advantage of a system that supports it, but is it really in good spirit. Its not illegal. SO nothing stopping you.

In fairness, the term loop holing is something we just carried on from the old loophole. That was a loophole because FanHub specifically stated in their rules that they had taken action to stop said looping by changing the rules, but then we found another way around it.

This "loophole" for want of a better word, is due to FanHub's incompetency more than anything. Rolling Lockout OR Ranked Subs, not both.

They weren't trying to stop looping by changing the AE model, they were trying to improve the game. Something they don't have a great track record in doing.

Think I've decided to go with Lichaa to JMK and Cartwright to DCE and leaves my team looking like this this week

Smith
Fifita Lodge
Murray Arrow RFM
DCE Doueihi
Mitchell Isaako
Tedesco Ponga Thompson

Cook
Griffin
Kikau
Rochow

TPJ
Kennar
JMK
Croker

How does it look?

OK, since I posted the link to the new loophole thread - every single post made has been about loopholing.

I shall continue that trend.

No loophole talk in the main thread.

Pick 3 to play out of:
Kikau
S.Williams
Isaako
Rochow
Doueihi

Milchcow wrote:OK - too much loophole talk

It all goes in here now

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t661-loopholers-anonymous-a-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy#188747


If you want to talk about how to loophole, if its a good idea to loophole, work out ways to loophole 12 players in a single round, brag about how you loopholed Kikau's 104 points in as captain. Want to rant at fanhub for implementing such a shitty system

All goes in here

Please ensure there is not a way to loophole the loophole thread.

Great analogy @Fortitude. Maybe next season we should have a league of loopers v non-loopers to see the gap and to be able to quantify the 'butt hurt'.

Anyone looking at a more risky captain option this week? Seeing as there's a small shift away from locking Smith in....

Isaako a bit too risky, right?