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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 31

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    Post by deathbywarriors Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:05 am

    Any idea how long Capewell is likely to be starting for the Sharks? Assume it could only be as brief as a couple of weeks depending on when Gallen and Graham are back?
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    Post by Cap'n Ranta Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:06 am

    danseels1985 wrote:BUMP

    If I have Fifita and Murray as my 16 and 17 and nether play do I get the players I have as my 18 and 19 points?

    Yeah mate. Your 18 and 19 will come into your team guaranteed.
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    Post by RandomSil Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:07 am

    How much are people expecting Reins to make in potentially 4 weeks.
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    Post by Mearcats Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:07 am

    wolfking wrote:

    Im not sold on Coggar. Dont know much about him truthfully but Watson back soon and Lamb could come back in at any time.

    That article on Rein did make me a bit more hesitant but probably still worth it if he can get the fulltime gig for at least 3 weeks. Anything more is a bonus.

    I guess with Cogger waiting a week probably won't hurt, could be in the same sort of situation as Bird. If the Knights can bag a win and he's named again next week I can look at him then. He's relatively cheap so shouldn't go gang busters.

    Rein looks to me like he could be a good earner but if he only gets three weeks and averages 50 he doesn't make enough to justify the trade for my liking. I suppose there is every possibility he goes 60 for three weeks in which case he'd make 198k and is worthwhile but that may be wishful thinking. The biggest problem is that he's going to be another Doughy. As soon as Peats (a guy that is always a quick healer) is back, Rein will become a benchie again and bleed quickly. Two trades in three weeks could hurt bad.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:08 am

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    Found slats's alt!

    Im way better looking than whoever this slats fella is/was
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    Post by hymenbustas Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:10 am

    No one considering Paulo?
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    Post by Mearcats Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:11 am

    Careful Verb, Slat's is a bloke of near mythical status. Show me someone else that can go through 34 trades before round 16! Laughing
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:11 am

    All this talk as to not trading Rein is really making think about disembarking the train Sad
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    Post by wolfking Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:13 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:All this talk as to not trading Rein is really making think about disembarking the train Sad

    Don't you mean trein?
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    Post by wolfking Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:14 am

    hymenbustas wrote:No one considering Paulo?

    No. Bakuya should be back next week. He was actually supposed to be back this week I thought.
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    Post by Mearcats Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:15 am

    Not for me hymen. I don't have room in my squad for another middie second rower, especially one who usually plays from a bench with a 20avg and probably will be again in three weeks.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:15 am

    Mearcats wrote:Careful Verb, Slat's is a bloke of near mythical status. Show me someone else that can go through 34 trades before round 16! Laughing

    Better to burn out than to fade away
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    Post by Chucky Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:16 am

    I want to get both Rein and Su’A but I can only get one this week as I need to get SJ instead of playing Croker in my halves.
    Su’A has a BE of -8, Rein has a BE of 24.
    It makes sense to get Su’A this week and Rein next week doesn’t it?
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:20 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Why are you expecting Rein to get any more than Peats's pre-injury average of 32?

    My initial post didn't take into account the change of roles which is what you are alluding to.

    So if Rein was to simply take on Peat's roll you might have an argument, but by all accounts he won't. Peats averaged 56 min this year, Rein is set for more than that, perhaps a lot more. That's the main reason.

    On top of that Peats ppm this year is down significantly on his previous games with the Titans, my feeling is that he would probably have reverted back to his norm of somewhere in the low .6s. Impose a 0.6ppm on Rein and his likely average would be in the 36-48 range, which is basically what I posted earlier. Same realist, different way of getting there.
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    Post by standard-issue Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am

    filthridden wrote:
    Verbal Kint wrote:Why are you talking about conserving trades etc? They're unlimited, right?

    (just kidding)

    Found slats's alt!

    Rabs and Verbal are now officially Frenemies.
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    Post by Mearcats Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am

    Ok, to be clear, I am not advising against bringing Rein in. I am simply trying to look at it from a tactical viewpoint. I only have 27 trades remaining. I have Inglis, Lodge and Doughy in my side that need to go A$AP Rocky.

    On first looks, a switch straight from Doughy to Rein makes perfect sense. But looking further, there is every chance in three weeks that he goes back to the bench. We all know Peats is a tough bugger and he is going to want to get back as soon as he can. He's got a Blues jersey to fight to retain and he well and truly has a fight on his hands.

    IF, and I intentionally caps'd that, Rein could go at 60 for three weeks he'd make 198k. Good money. Worth two trades in three weeks though? In my instance I may be better of bringing in someone like Su'a or Gos who has better security. Will be a slower earner and still need to be traded out but if they get 8-10 weeks they should earn more overall.

    It's purely a time frame thing for me. And that one week is becoming somewhat of a stumbling block for my liking. If Peats was 8-10 weeks or even 6-8 weeks outside it'd be a different story. With the information that it's 4-6 weeks MAXIMUM and potential return after two to three out I'm struggling to see how I can make that work.

    Keep in mind, I'm the conservative type. And my team value in comparison to a lot of you guys reflects that. Fortune favours the brave but not a risk I think I'm willing to take.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:31 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:I have traded Rochow and Croker for Sua and Rein. If you have max traded since the start of the year you would have 22 remaining after trading this week. I have 25 remaining so I have banked 3 trades so far. With my team I feel I wont need to make many more major trades before Round 13, barring injury. At this stage I have 10 RD 13 players and 11 RD 17 players. Rein will be a trade in 4-6 weeks. Players on my team that play RD 17 that will be traded for RD 13 players -
    Rein
    Su'a
    Isaako
    Jacks
    Havili
    TPJ - If he doesn't pull his finger out

    So I am looking at making 6 out of a possible 14 trades (4 trades between RD 12 and 13) before RD 13. This means I can bank 8 trades in this time. Now presuming that all these trades are for RD 13 players I will have 16 players playing RD 13. Between RD 13 and 17 I believe there will be 12 trades (4 in between RD14 and 15 and another 4 in between RD 16 and 17...I think). This means at most I will have 17 playing RD 17 and 4 RD 13 players in the EMG. Because I have Jurbo, Turbo, DCE, Mitchell, Murray, Cook and Ponga who I believe will be in my final 17 means I am looking at only having 14 play RD 17 with these 7 as DNP (unless I trade Mitchell and Murray). This means if I trade to have 14 RD 17 players and these 7 as DNP I will have 10 trades for round 18-25 for injury cover and getting those last couple guns.

    Well I hope it plays out this way

    Having 16 and then 17 relies on having no Origin players. You probably have 2 perhaps 3 or even 4 of your potential round 13 players who will play Origin, so subtract those off your round 13 total.

    The main thing I would question in this strategy, and I am certainly not saying I am right here, but the calls I have done make me suspect you'll have a problem. Is that to get a gun 17 or 18 together you need most of your trades to generate the cash to get these players, and the earlier you manage to generate this cash the longer you have the guns in your side and the more overall points you will get.

    The strategy that you are looking to employ will involve, IMO, quite a big tradeoff between the extra points you will get in round 13 and round 17 and the overall points you will miss out on by restricting your ability to form a gun squad.

    To work out exactly what this tradeoff is you have to make a lot of assumptions BUT I would argue that overall people who go all in on a bye strategy will be worse off than those that don't, but use their trades wisely to generate a gun squad ASAP.

    Just something to think about man, not trying to be critical, hopefully helpful if possible. Good luck regardless and the only way we will truly know will be to wait and see how everyone goes come end of year and see which strategies were the winners Smile

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:32 am

    Take this with a grain of salt as this is IMO.

    Just read an article on NRL.com about TPJ and in the last couple paragraphs Alex Glenn says the main thing for TPJ is to stay humble and not get too big headed. Just IMO, maybe this could be a reason why Bennett pulled back his minutes last week along with resting his hammy. Maybe he wants to show TPJ that he can just as easily be replaced if he isn't stepping up each week.
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    Post by standard-issue Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:32 am

    deathbywarriors wrote:Any idea how long Capewell is likely to be starting for the Sharks? Assume it could only be as brief as a couple of weeks depending on when Gallen and Graham are back?

    I've tentatively done Issako to Capewell. 3 weeks would be great and hopefully by then there is one or two definitive Centre keepers I can upgrade to.

    Everything I've read suggests he should get the 3 weeks. I missed him last year so looking forward to having him in my Trousers at last Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:34 am

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