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    Post by Mulvy Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:04 pm

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    I like it, first team I've seen with McInnes. I don't think Ofa has much upside though and 0k in the bank isn't how you want to start the season at all, very risky. I still like the look of the team though. Maybe if you went McCullough you'd be safer

    Interesting point you make about having cash left. Previously I was a fan of spend it all. I don't know if I've evolved or it's due to the new 21 man open bench format, but I too feel having a bit of cash left over is wise. What do you say fanatics?
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:05 pm

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    Interesting point you make about having cash left. Previously I was a fan of spend it all. I don't know if I've evolved or it's due to the new 21 man open bench format, but I too feel having a bit of cash left over is wise.  What do you say fanatics?

    As long as i can cash out the extra cash i dont spend. im happy 116K right now would be amazing.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:06 pm

    Alfie wrote:

    I like it, first team I've seen with McInnes. I don't think Ofa has much upside though and 0k in the bank isn't how you want to start the season at all, very risky. I still like the look of the team though. Maybe if you went McCullough you'd be safer


    - I know Macca is probably better value for money but I think McInnes will score better than he will. McInnes has a better running game, is just as good defensively, and will almost certainly not play Origin. Also, the Dragons have a pretty tough draw in the first 4-5 weeks, and that usually means McInnes scores better. I don't mind Macca as a pick but I've got a gut feeling that McInnes will be better.

    - As for Ofa, I see quite a lot of upside in him. He's pretty talented, has a huge motor, and is pretty much the leader of these young middle forwards. With TPJ out, I think he's a must-have and even with TPJ in, the Broncos don't have that many experienced middle forwards and I reckon the bench middles would be taking more minutes off Lodge and TPJ than they will with Ofa. That being said, if I need to free up cash before round 1, I might drop Ofa down to Junior Paulo (or alternately Alex Twal if he starts).
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:10 pm

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    - I know Macca is probably better value for money but I think McInnes will score better than he will. McInnes has a better running game, is just as good defensively, and will almost certainly not play Origin. Also, the Dragons have a pretty tough draw in the first 4-5 weeks, and that usually means McInnes scores better. I don't mind Macca as a pick but I've got a gut feeling that McInnes will be better.

    - As for Ofa, I see quite a lot of upside in him. He's pretty talented, has a huge motor, and is pretty much the leader of these young middle forwards. With TPJ out, I think he's a must-have and even with TPJ in, the Broncos don't have that many experienced middle forwards and I reckon the bench middles would be taking more minutes off Lodge and TPJ than they will with Ofa. That being said, if I need to free up cash before round 1, I might drop Ofa down to Junior Paulo (or alternately Alex Twal if he starts).
    I like it. no i like like it. Offa's in my team and is there to stay. I think he will provide consistent 60 minute games which could lead to 50-55 scores
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:16 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:


    - I know Macca is probably better value for money but I think McInnes will score better than he will. McInnes has a better running game, is just as good defensively, and will almost certainly not play Origin. Also, the Dragons have a pretty tough draw in the first 4-5 weeks, and that usually means McInnes scores better. I don't mind Macca as a pick but I've got a gut feeling that McInnes will be better.

    - As for Ofa, I see quite a lot of upside in him. He's pretty talented, has a huge motor, and is pretty much the leader of these young middle forwards. With TPJ out, I think he's a must-have and even with TPJ in, the Broncos don't have that many experienced middle forwards and I reckon the bench middles would be taking more minutes off Lodge and TPJ than they will with Ofa. That being said, if I need to free up cash before round 1, I might drop Ofa down to Junior Paulo (or alternately Alex Twal if he starts).

    I like your assessment. Offa's been in my team most of the pre season. Thaiday, McGuire, Sims all gone. Someone's gotta pick up the slack. I've gone off him in the last week but for no good reason. Haas suspended and TPJ doubtful should make me more keen. It's just the great unknown's in that pack putting me off. I may come back to him.
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:19 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    I like your assessment. Offa's been in my team most of the pre season. Thaiday, McGuire, Sims all gone. Someone's gotta pick up the slack. I've gone off him in the last week but for no good reason. Haas suspended and TPJ doubtful should make me more keen. It's just the great unknown's in that pack putting me off. I may come back to him.

    With that explanation i thibk its crazy that you arent more keen. let me get yo more keen by saying. offa has gone from 1.8 - 2.0% in the last day. lol!
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    Post by mattnz Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:21 pm

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    Interesting point you make about having cash left. Previously I was a fan of spend it all. I don't know if I've evolved or it's due to the new 21 man open bench format, but I too feel having a bit of cash left over is wise.  What do you say fanatics?

    With my current team structure which is guns and rookies, I am looking to hold the guns and trade the poor performing rookies to the star rookies. To be able to do this I will need cash on hand to purchase each star rookie that I missed that has now jumped $50k. Will be looking to have something in the $150k-$200k range to be able to do 3-4 of these upgrades that appear over the first couple of weeks.
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:24 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    With my current team structure which is guns and rookies, I am looking to hold the guns and trade the poor performing rookies to the star rookies. To be able to do this I will need cash on hand to purchase each star rookie that I missed that has now jumped $50k. Will be looking to have something in the $150k-$200k range to be able to do 3-4 of these upgrades that appear over the first couple of weeks.

    Interesting. so currently you arent running with the Stimsons, Mahoneys etc.
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    Post by Goodnight Kiwi Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:26 pm

    I am bouncing between Vaughan and Offa to partner Fifi myself. Currently with Vaughan... Is the thinking of those with Offa that he provides potentially more upside this year? More minutes? Especially in the first few games...

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    Post by Mulvy Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:27 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    With my current team structure which is guns and rookies, I am looking to hold the guns and trade the poor performing rookies to the star rookies. To be able to do this I will need cash on hand to purchase each star rookie that I missed that has now jumped $50k. Will be looking to have something in the $150k-$200k range to be able to do 3-4 of these upgrades that appear over the first couple of weeks.

    What happened to sub-gun POD's?. Also, cows and guns is a solid strategy, in fact the more common strategy. Having some dollars left over makes sense for this. The right mix of cows and guns vs midrange value is the most interesting thing about the new 21 man/open bench format. But really, is probably just a year to year consideration.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:28 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    I like your assessment. Offa's been in my team most of the pre season. Thaiday, McGuire, Sims all gone. Someone's gotta pick up the slack. I've gone off him in the last week but for no good reason. Haas suspended and TPJ doubtful should make me more keen. It's just the great unknown's in that pack putting me off. I may come back to him.

    Yeah fair enough, there is some uncertainty but I'm backing him to get 60 mins and score 50-55pts, he's got a huge motor and as you said, someone has to pick up the slack. It won't be TPJ, since due to his recurring hammy problem, they'll rest him way more than they'll rest Ofa. He's the leader of their pack now, at least among the middle forwards.

    Considering that there's 240 minutes spread among 5 players in the middle (8/10/13 plus 2 bench middles), it's likely that Ofa gets at least 60 mins. If not, then the bench middles are getting enough mins to become must-have cash cows or TPJ is somehow getting 80 mins.




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    Post by standard-issue Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:29 pm

    Mulvy wrote:
    Alfie wrote:

    I like it, first team I've seen with McInnes. I don't think Ofa has much upside though and 0k in the bank isn't how you want to start the season at all, very risky. I still like the look of the team though. Maybe if you went McCullough you'd be safer

    Interesting point you make about having cash left. Previously I was a fan of spend it all. I don't know if I've evolved or it's due to the new 21 man open bench format, but I too feel having a bit of cash left over is wise.  What do you say fanatics?

    The last 3 seasons it's been my strategy-I've had between 400k and 500k in the kitty come Round 1 all those years. Final ranks were 900, 360, 394. Personally I'm more than happy with that, consistency wise.

    Last year I made a couple of horrocious rookie errors that cost me a Top 100 finish (I get we can all say that). I was going to avoid the strategy this year, but with he mid range value again have currently got a team I am kind of happy with, and 400k in the bank. So pretty sure I'll do it again.





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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:30 pm

    Goodnight Kiwi wrote:I am bouncing between Vaughan and Offa to partner Fifi myself. Currently with Vaughan... Is the thinking of those with Offa that he provides potentially more upside this year? More minutes? Especially in the first few games...


    Offa had a few games starting when mcguire and a couple others were out where he played 70 minutes at lock. not sure how he scored in those game but if he can get similar minutes consistently this season he has amazing upside
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:33 pm

    Goodnight Kiwi wrote:I am bouncing between Vaughan and Offa to partner Fifi myself. Currently with Vaughan... Is the thinking of those with Offa that he provides potentially more upside this year? More minutes? Especially in the first few games...


    As I mentioned in my reply to Mulvy, Ofa's upside is that the Broncos just lost Thaiday, McGuire and Korbin Sims and someone has to pick up the slack. It won't be TPJ since he's got a recurring hammy problem, and I think it will be Ofa. He's talented and has a huge motor. If Ofa isn't getting 60 mins, then either TPJ or Lodge is getting 80 or the bench middles are getting enough minutes to become serious cash cow options
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    Post by mattnz Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:33 pm

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    Interesting. so currently you arent running with the Stimsons, Mahoneys etc.

    Not stimson, have Mahoney. Avoiding mid rangers generally now, instead getting those in the range of sub-gun ready to make the leap to gun scores this season.

    Means I am going for the guys currently getting mid 40s, that I think can hit mid 50s this year, instead of a guy like Stimson who is priced at 28 and may hit 40s. He becomes the kind of guy that you need to trade out before he peaks, as you need his spot in your team for a guy hitting gun scores, and he is too expensive by then to be running as an NPR. In a few rounds I see him as the kind of guy that you regret having in your team.

    I am also deliberately going for guys that I see having a high ceiling, ones that have managed to hit 70s when getting good minutes but are priced in the 40s. They have huge upside potential. Have a massive POD that I recently added to my team, who is priced mid 40s, when he plays 80 minutes as expected, he never gets less than 40, and has hit 70s more than once.

    I see Mahoney as having the potential to be a heavily discounted gun scorer.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:34 pm

    SI wrote:

    The last 3 seasons it's been my strategy-I've had between 400k and 500k in the kitty come Round 1 all those years.  Final ranks were 900, 360, 394.  Personally I'm more than happy with that, consistency wise.  

    Last year I made a couple of horrocious rookie errors that cost me a Top 100 finish (I get we can all say that).  I was going to avoid the strategy this year, but with he mid range value again have currently got a team I am kind of happy with, and 400k in the bank.  So pretty sure I'll do it again.






    I won't be saying that, because horrocious isn't a word. I mean seriously, that's just rambuctious!
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    Post by mattnz Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:38 pm

    SI wrote:

    The last 3 seasons it's been my strategy-I've had between 400k and 500k in the kitty come Round 1 all those years.  Final ranks were 900, 360, 394.  Personally I'm more than happy with that, consistency wise.  

    Last year I made a couple of horrocious rookie errors that cost me a Top 100 finish (I get we can all say that).  I was going to avoid the strategy this year, but with he mid range value again have currently got a team I am kind of happy with, and 400k in the bank.  So pretty sure I'll do it again.

    How do you typically use the $400k?





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    Post by King Assassin Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:38 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Not stimson, have Mahoney. Avoiding mid rangers generally now, instead getting those in the range of sub-gun ready to make the leap to gun scores this season.

    Means I am going for the guys currently getting mid 40s, that I think can hit mid 50s this year, instead of a guy like Stimson who is priced at 28 and may hit 40s. He becomes the kind of guy that you need to trade out before he peaks, as you need his spot in your team for a guy hitting gun scores, and he is too expensive by then to be running as an NPR. In a few rounds I see him as the kind of guy that you regret having in your team.

    I am also deliberately going for guys that I see having a high ceiling, ones that have managed to hit 70s when getting good minutes but are priced in the 40s. They have huge upside potential. Have a massive POD that I recently added to my team, who is priced mid 40s, when he plays 80 minutes as expected, he never gets less than 40, and has hit 70s more than once.

    I see Mahoney as having the potential to be a heavily discounted gun scorer.

    so guys like Murray, Kikau, Offa(personal favourite)
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:38 pm

    Mulvy wrote:
    SI wrote:

    The last 3 seasons it's been my strategy-I've had between 400k and 500k in the kitty come Round 1 all those years.  Final ranks were 900, 360, 394.  Personally I'm more than happy with that, consistency wise.  

    Last year I made a couple of horrocious rookie errors that cost me a Top 100 finish (I get we can all say that).  I was going to avoid the strategy this year, but with he mid range value again have currently got a team I am kind of happy with, and 400k in the bank.  So pretty sure I'll do it again.






    I won't be saying that, because horrocious isn't a word. I mean seriously, that's just rambuctious!

    This deserves a stampling!
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:41 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Not stimson, have Mahoney. Avoiding mid rangers generally now, instead getting those in the range of sub-gun ready to make the leap to gun scores this season.

    Means I am going for the guys currently getting mid 40s, that I think can hit mid 50s this year, instead of a guy like Stimson who is priced at 28 and may hit 40s. He becomes the kind of guy that you need to trade out before he peaks, as you need his spot in your team for a guy hitting gun scores, and he is too expensive by then to be running as an NPR. In a few rounds I see him as the kind of guy that you regret having in your team.

    I am also deliberately going for guys that I see having a high ceiling, ones that have managed to hit 70s when getting good minutes but are priced in the 40s. They have huge upside potential. Have a massive POD that I recently added to my team, who is priced mid 40s, when he plays 80 minutes as expected, he never gets less than 40, and has hit 70s more than once.

    I see Mahoney as having the potential to be a heavily discounted gun scorer.

    That's my general approach to midrangers, with the exception of Stimson. As for your mystery POD, he wouldn't happen to be an edge forward who plays for the Tigers, right?

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