NRL Fantasy 2019 part 54

Archer wrote:Lots of love for Havili here but it sounds like there is a good chance we are giving Starling a debut.

Yeah I saw that he'll come off the bench. I think even if Stuart uses Starling off the bench then Havili could just play the role that Hodgson did when he played lock/roving playmaker. Havili has good ball skills and is a great playmaker in his own right.

Archer wrote:Lots of love for Havili here but it sounds like there is a good chance we are giving Starling a debut.

What's he going to play though, 10 to 15 mins off the bench? Similar to the Panthers hooker last week I reckon.

With Papalii out and Tapine (maybe) hurt, Havili might just play 80 with time spent at lock (probably won't), but 60 to 65 mins is what I am keen for.

Archer wrote:Lots of love for Havili here but it sounds like there is a good chance we are giving Starling a debut.

I was envisioning Havili to start and Starling to come on and shift Havili to the forwards for a bit, playing 50-60 mins.

Or if Starling started, Havili would play 50-60 in the forward rotation and maybe take over for Starling if he's struggling.

I don't see Havili playing 70+, rarely did last year and seemed to struggle towards the end.

Realistic to expect a decent minutes increase though beyond this week? Down a few troops, so may not be indicative for the later rounds.

WT Winfield wrote:

Is a 52 average that bad? He'll play an extra game, potentially 2 or 3 over some guns that play origin.

You were weighing up Taupau vs. AFB last week.. AFB's never been a keeper and averaged 41 last year playing 1 less minute per game than now.

This week you're weighing up Taupau vs. Tom Trb, Bateman and NBrown all of which are injured.

I had NBrown the last couple of seasons, including this year and he's not worth the trouble.

Tom's had a few injuries prior to last season and likely to be thrown into origin when he does come back.

Bateman I'm targeting for Rd 13 or 14.

Tolman and JFH you marked as potentially being season keepers.

Tolman's avg is 50.5 and JFH 49.6 (53.6 at LK prior to last week, but not guaranteed to play LK every week), so I dunno why you see Taupau averaging 52 as not being worthwhile.

Hey man thanks for the input. Last week I wasn't tossing up between AFB or Taupau at all, I was actually telling people to wait for DCE and Turbo to return to see how their input is affected.
NBrown was a stab in the dark at a POD
Turbo can wait till he loses some cash and I would also prefer Bateman back in R13 as I need Young to play 2RF this week. So pretty much narrowed down to Taupau or no trade this week

I may need to just get Taupau this week.... or double cow with Brittain and Havili bringing my bank to around 700K

StormTrooper96 wrote:

Hey man thanks for the input. Last week I wasn't tossing up between AFB or Taupau at all, I was actually telling people to wait for DCE and Turbo to return to see how their input is affected.
NBrown was a stab in the dark at a POD
Turbo can wait till he loses some cash and I would also prefer Bateman back in R13 as I need Young to play 2RF this week. So pretty much narrowed down to Taupau or no trade this week

Sorry, must've mixed up the Taupau vs. AFB thing. I remember responding to your post about Taupau vs. AFB and a bunch of others were weighing up between them at the same time. I reckon Taupau is one of the best guns playing this week, besides Taumalolo, so my vote goes to trade over not trading

WT Winfield wrote:

Sorry, must've mixed up the Taupau vs. AFB thing. I remember responding to your post about Taupau vs. AFB and a bunch of others were weighing up between them at the same time. I reckon Taupau is one of the best guns playing this week, besides Taumalolo, so my vote goes to trade over not trading

Yeah, I need to make ground and crack into the top 1000. Been flirting with it the last couple weeks. I would love to grab a POD over this origin period as everyone seems to be going for Taupau. Might wait for TLT and flip a coin

White Lightning wrote:

That will leave with 11 trades & then trading in CS9 & McInnes will leave me with 9 after round 13. Then all I need for my final team is J. Bateman & 2 of DCE, Turbo or RTS. I should finish the origin period with a couple of trades left which is a miracle because I love rage trading haha.

Sounds like you have it all planned out, hope it all falls into place and no injury set backs.

I'm also 3 players (4 if i want Arrow back in) away from my final team.

WT Winfield wrote:

I was envisioning Havili to start and Starling to come on and shift Havili to the forwards for a bit, playing 50-60 mins.

Or if Starling started, Havili would play 50-60 in the forward rotation and maybe take over for Starling if he's struggling.

I don't see Havili playing 70+, rarely did last year and seemed to struggle towards the end.

Realistic to expect a decent minutes increase though beyond this week? Down a few troops, so may not be indicative for the later rounds.

Way I see it is Havili should still be good for around 40 points a week and making some cash which is all I need as cover for Cook. Canberra pack are a lot fitter this year too.

15 trades left (before trades this week) and I only have 10 keepers. The next 7 best have a total value of $4.329mil, plus I've got $200k in the bank. The 7 highest average players I don't currently have are worth $5.738mil, leaving a shortfall of $1.209mil. IF i trade my remaining 4 players to $212k's, i'm still $695k short. So looking down the averages list:

Forego Cook > Get Munster = $177k
Forego DCE > Get Arrow = $128k
Forego Smith > Keep Mahoney = $127k + 1 trade
Forego JTrbo > Keep Twal = 69k + 1 trade

Nope - Still $194k short. Might as well just give up now.

SoylentGreen wrote:15 trades left (before trades this week) and I only have 10 keepers. The next 7 best have a total value of $4.329mil, plus I've got $200k in the bank. The 7 highest average players I don't currently have are worth $5.738mil, leaving a shortfall of $1.209mil. IF i trade my remaining 4 players to $212k's, i'm still $695k short. So looking down the averages list:

Forego Cook > Get Munster = $177k
Forego DCE > Get Arrow = $128k
Forego Smith > Keep Mahoney = $127k + 1 trade
Forego JTrbo > Keep Twal = 69k + 1 trade

Nope - Still $194k short. Might as well just give up now.

Make it fun with some 'Feel' picks and do as much as u can instead of just giving up on the end game ! Come on son, fire up!

We are all so different, I'm genuinely enjoying seeing how far I can pull myself out of the quagmire.

Flanagan. What are owners doing with him?

Punting him this week to recommence money making immediately with a new cow (as well as round 12 points), confident Johnson is back next week?

Or, is anyone holding him this week just to make sure Johnson/Townsend both named next week?

I’m a bit torn. If I was 100% sure he doesn’t play next week I’d look to sell him this week so I can start cash generation immediately. But I also don’t want to prematurely evacuate him from my team in case he plays again.

If there’s no really appealing cows this week, problem solved. But interested in people’s thoughts.

StormTrooper96 wrote:

Yeah, I need to make ground and crack into the top 1000. Been flirting with it the last couple weeks. I would love to grab a POD over this origin period as everyone seems to be going for Taupau. Might wait for TLT and flip a coin

With 4 trades, you could still find a POD somewhere and get on Taupau to make sure you don't fall behind. There's a good reason a lot of people have traded Taupau in the last few weeks. Can go boom at anytime and then his average is suddenly 55.

Johnny B Goode wrote:

Way I see it is Havili should still be good for around 40 points a week and making some cash which is all I need as cover for Cook. Canberra pack are a lot fitter this year too.

Yeah I think I'm gonna go for him. Should score well this week at least and if he doesn't make cash by Rd 16, you win some/lose some.

SoylentGreen wrote:15 trades left (before trades this week) and I only have 10 keepers. The next 7 best have a total value of $4.329mil, plus I've got $200k in the bank. The 7 highest average players I don't currently have are worth $5.738mil, leaving a shortfall of $1.209mil. IF i trade my remaining 4 players to $212k's, i'm still $695k short. So looking down the averages list:

Forego Cook > Get Munster = $177k
Forego DCE > Get Arrow = $128k
Forego Smith > Keep Mahoney = $127k + 1 trade
Forego JTrbo > Keep Twal = 69k + 1 trade

Nope - Still $194k short. Might as well just give up now.

Looking seriously.

Don't forego Cook. Best case for affordability, rather than skipping games after origin he has a smaller bench role and drops cash.
Either way he is easily best player in the game and you want him.

Forgoing DCE may be more doable (depends if he maintains form once he returns). 1 cheaper option is SJ, on the proviso he returns from injury OK. Could be available at around $600k

Angus Crichton is another who is still cheapish , and may drop a bit more after origin if he gets reduced minutes backing up.

RTS is about to drop some cash if you don't have him.

Klemmer and Nathan Peats are 2 others who might be Ok at a bit cheaper than the alternatives.

Plus there will be other discounts available due to injury, late season cash cows.

Getting no 1 overall may be out of reach, but still plenty of options available to keep your rank improving.

Hoping starling starts but thanks to @StormTrooper96 's research re who plays late in the weekend towards the end of the season means even if he is a bust and doesn't make much cash, he can still be used for dark arts in any H2H finals as canberra have great fixtures for that rounds 21-25

so in that case:
- some extra round 12 points
- hopefully a decent cash cow if he gets a solid role while hodgson is out
- even if he doesn't he has a use for those planning on a red dot later in the season

SoylentGreen wrote:15 trades left (before trades this week) and I only have 10 keepers. The next 7 best have a total value of $4.329mil, plus I've got $200k in the bank. The 7 highest average players I don't currently have are worth $5.738mil, leaving a shortfall of $1.209mil. IF i trade my remaining 4 players to $212k's, i'm still $695k short. So looking down the averages list:

Forego Cook > Get Munster = $177k
Forego DCE > Get Arrow = $128k
Forego Smith > Keep Mahoney = $127k + 1 trade
Forego JTrbo > Keep Twal = 69k + 1 trade

Nope - Still $194k short. Might as well just give up now.

There are a few players looking like they will drop cash too in the near future. I'd gamble if I was you on say a tapine or an isaiah yeo when he's back. sure they may only average 40 still but the 300-400k saved for say 15 points average lost will probably be worth it to fit a cook in as captain for example

And with a bit of luck the likes of yeo, burgess, tapine etc might get back to their former scoring

Not sure if mentioned but Levi is facing 6-8 weeks on the sideline

Milchy wrote:

Looking seriously.

Don't forego Cook. Best case for affordability, rather than skipping  games after origin he has a smaller bench role and drops cash.
Either way he is easily best player in the game and you want him.

Forgoing DCE may be more doable (depends if he maintains form once he returns). 1 cheaper option is SJ, on the proviso he returns from injury OK. Could be available at around $600k

Angus Crichton is another who is still cheapish , and may drop a bit more after origin if he gets reduced minutes backing up.

RTS is about to drop some cash if you don't have him.

Klemmer and Nathan Peats are 2 others who might be Ok at a bit cheaper than the alternatives.

Plus there will be other discounts available due to injury, late season cash cows.

Getting no 1 overall may be out of reach, but still plenty of options available to keep your rank improving.

Thanks Milch (and others) - I'd never be able to pull the pin full-stop, just getting a bit disheartened by the fact that nothing I've tried this year has come off (no spectacular failures either, just abject mediocrity which is somehow worse). I'll hope that Cook has a few reduced minute games over the next month, and I'll hope some interesting left-field PODs pop up.

Breaking: The Dragons have been given salary cap dispensation by the NRL because Jack De Belin has been stood down. They have $239,000 to spend on a forward for this year. @9NewsSyd