NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

No Worries wrote:

But then you spend the next 20 minutes complaining "why did he come off so early" and the 20 after that "Seibold you kent put Fifita back on !!"

At least nobody is picking Taupau this year. This forum would go into meltdown anytime they saw him off the field last year

The difference this year for K. Mann is that he's had an entire pre season of training at 5/8th with a tailored game plan to suit him & building combinations with Pearce & Ponga. In previous years when he played in that position he was filling in. It's also worth noting that coach O'Brien rates Mann highly & has made him captain of the nines team.

robelgordo wrote:

Lodge and Haas will both be more effective playing 45 and 55 minutes.

Plus the entertainment value of everyone losing their minds on Haas-watch... like Taupau last season, amplified.

Don't see Haas playing any less than his 65 minutes per game from last season. The only change to their pack since last year is Gillett is gone, should be more minutes to spread around, not less.

No Worries wrote:

But then you spend the next 20 minutes complaining "why did he come off so early" and the 20 after that "Seibold you kent put Fifita back on !!"

Agree, not good for my mental health.

Milchcow wrote:

When was the last time a successful team used an interchange on an outside back as a pre-meditated part of its game plan?

Tigers and Dragons have done it in the past, and I don't think its the sort of strategy other teams are looking to model.

Its not an extra interchange, it is taking a back off instead of Fifita and leaving him on the field when they are behind on the scoreboard so he can make an impact.

Milchcow wrote:

Do you think Papenhuyzen will thrive more at Melbourne now that he is first choice and not just filler?

Yes. I take your point though.

Milchcow wrote:

At least nobody is picking Taupau this year. This forum would go into meltdown anytime they saw him off the field last year

Jurbo and AFB are both in doubt to start the season, those that didnt feel the pain last season are likely to fall into the trap this season, expecting his minutes / role to increase.

mattnz wrote:

Jurbo and AFB are both in doubt to start the season, those that didnt feel the pain last season are likely to fall into the trap this season, expecting his minutes / role to increase.

In fairness to Des, and as a Taupau owner last year, whenever he needed to play bigger minutes because of injury or whatever, he was just completely gassed. Des got his minutes right I'd say. Funny that.

#kapowminuteswatch

White Lightning wrote:The difference this year for K. Mann is that he's had an entire pre season of training at 5/8th with a tailored game plan to suit him & building combinations with Pearce & Ponga. In previous years when he played in that position he was filling in. It's also worth noting that coach O'Brien rates Mann highly & has made him captain of the nines team.

yeah, I think O'Brien will get some good footy out of the Knights (including Mann)

mattnz wrote:

Don't see Haas playing any less than his 65 minutes per game from last season. The only change to their pack since last year is Gillett is gone, should be more minutes to spread around, not less.

The number of minutes to spread around is the same regardless who the forwards are, but I get what you mean. Still don’t think I agree

Turpin plus Macca/Paix is 80
Glenn is captain, he will be 80 or close every week.

There’s 320 minutes between Haas, Lodge, TPJ, Fifita, Carrigan, Offa, Flegler.

An optimistic case for Haas might be:

Haas keeps his minutes (65)
Lodge keeps his minutes (55)
TPJ and Fifita are collectively playing 80 wide plus probably 25-30 up the middle... take the low it’s 105
Carrigan is getting at least the same minutes as the back end of 2019 (otherwise why are so many buying him?) - that’s 40ish, again low side
Offa is good for 35 at a minimum
Flegler is young and promising and isn’t going backwards - 20 minimum.

Thats 320. It wouldn’t take much for the last three to eat into Haas and Lodge minutes.

Random post considering the conversation but I think I'm still sold on having Matterson as my gun second rower.

robelgordo wrote:
Carrigan is getting at least the same minutes as the back end of 2019 (otherwise why are so many buying him?) - .

Do you think Siebold is going to be aware of Carrigan's fantasy ownership when he organises his interchanges?


People are buying Carrigan because of a random post that said he might be starting lock.

Milchcow wrote:

Do you think Siebold is going to be aware of Carrigan's fantasy ownership when he organises his interchanges?


People are buying Carrigan because of a random post that said he might be starting lock.

TPJ playing edge and Carrigan starting would certainly be consistent with each other.

Milchcow wrote:

Do you think Siebold is going to be aware of Carrigan's fantasy ownership when he organises his interchanges?


People are buying Carrigan because of a random post that said he might be starting lock.

I don't think it was Random, it was MTB

Mulvy wrote:

I don't think it was Random, it was MTB

Yeah, he's very unlikely to see enough minutes at full strength. A very best case scenario would see him only just being worth picking. He will probably play around 35 to 40 mins, similar to Ofa.

robelgordo wrote:

Lodge and Haas will both be more effective playing 45 and 55 minutes.

Plus the entertainment value of everyone losing their minds on Haas-watch... like Taupau last season, amplified.

Haas - "Most disappointing gun of the year - 2020

Thank you very much

Milchcow wrote:

Do you think Siebold is going to be aware of Carrigan's fantasy ownership when he organises his interchanges?


People are buying Carrigan because of a random post that said he might be starting lock.

Of course I think that, it’s well known Seibold is active in the fantasy circles.

Or maybe that was exactly my point - how are all these best case scenarios for every player happening? I think (guess) the answer is they preserve Lodge and Haas a bit and trust the other youngsters. I think Haas and Lodge can be more effective with less minutes.

Mulvy wrote:

I don't think it was Random, it was MTB

Lol

robelgordo wrote:I think (guess) the answer is they preserve Lodge and Haas a bit and trust the other youngsters. I think Haas and Lodge can be more effective with less minutes.

I think you're right about Lodge. He was being pushed a bit too hard at times last year and he was clearly gassed at the back end of games.

I disagree with Haas, and it has nothing to do with fantasy. He is just a freak, can play 80 without a problem, if they needed that from him. 60 to 65 mins will be the norm, and after the way 2019 ended, Siebold isn't going to be mucking around and taking chances. He will have his best players on the field, if they are fit.

Haas might get rested late if we are blowing out games, but I don't think anyone expects that.. a new spine will take time to click in match conditions anyway.

my tv broke wrote:

I think you're right about Lodge. He was being pushed a bit too hard at times last year and he was clearly gassed at the back end of games.

I disagree with Haas, and it has nothing to do with fantasy. He is just a freak, can play 80 without a problem, if they needed that from him. 60 to 65 mins will be the norm, and after the way 2019 ended, Siebold isn't going to be mucking around and taking chances. He will have his best players on the field, if they are fit.

Yeah, I would be more confident that Haas will hold his minutes than Lodge. But 65 is a lot and pretty much every other middle playing 60+ is either doing less tackling or less running (usually both). How much do you want to push a young player?

I guess there’s no upside, he isn’t playing more IMO, but could play less.