NRL Fantasy Fanatics



Join the forum, it's quick and easy

NRL Fantasy Fanatics

NRL Fantasy Fanatics - A place for discussion of NRL Fantasy / Virtual Sports / Super Coach and other Fantasy Sports

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    multiple.scoregasms
    multiple.scoregasms
    Fanatic

    Posts : 10284
    Reputation : 7860
    Join date : 2015-10-29
    Age : 31

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:25 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I agree with all that, and really didn't want Haas in the first place, but I'm gonna need trials to fill me some confidence these mid range props are a viable option eg. Merrin starting a playing a substantial role in the Charity shield, Mofo back to fitness etc

    It would be much easier to go without Haas if we had more options in FRF. Ryan James injury robbed us of a locked in cheaper option with upside. Just gotta pick the right value option
    Mulvy
    Mulvy
    Moderator

    Posts : 22374
    Reputation : 13731
    Join date : 2016-01-26
    Location : Mulvania

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:26 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Im having enough trouble finding one prop that I like, let alone two.

    Its tempting to go for Taupau tbh

    McInnes
    Kapow Mofo
    Lolo Lowe Stimson
    Moses Laui
    Capewell Nuff
    Paps Brimson Lomax

    Friend Koro Brailey Grant

    Magoulias 246k, 246k, 228k

    Not bad. Just need to get Laui into NPR's ASAP.
    multiple.scoregasms
    multiple.scoregasms
    Fanatic

    Posts : 10284
    Reputation : 7860
    Join date : 2015-10-29
    Age : 31

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:28 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Im having enough trouble finding one prop that I like, let alone two.

    Its tempting to go for Taupau tbh

    I think you probably only want to end the year with 2 props in your best 17, for me that's probably Haas and Klemmer. Klemmer would be my choice if I was going into the season with a gun prop, but it is really hard to pick up an extra origin player
    multiple.scoregasms
    multiple.scoregasms
    Fanatic

    Posts : 10284
    Reputation : 7860
    Join date : 2015-10-29
    Age : 31

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:29 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    McInnes
    Kapow Mofo
    Lolo Lowe Stimson
    Moses Laui
    Capewell Nuff
    Paps Brimson Lomax

    Friend Koro Brailey Grant

    Magoulias 246k, 246k, 228k

    Not bad. Just need to get Laui into NPR's ASAP.

    Really like what you have done with the squad aside from Luai at half. No halves coverage could see that plan blow up very quickly
    avatar
    mattnz
    Fanatic

    Posts : 19887
    Reputation : 7191
    Join date : 2018-03-11
    Location : Your pool

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by mattnz Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:29 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    McInnes
    Kapow Mofo
    Lolo Lowe Stimson
    Moses Laui
    Capewell Nuff
    Paps Brimson Lomax

    Friend Koro Brailey Grant

    Magoulias 246k, 246k, 228k

    Not bad. Just need to get Laui into NPR's ASAP.

    Just need a rookie WFB to be named, then can play Brimson in the halves instead
    my tv broke
    my tv broke
    Fanatics Immortal

    Posts : 28416
    Reputation : 21074
    Join date : 2016-01-08

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by my tv broke Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:33 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I think you probably only want to end the year with 2 props in your best 17, for me that's probably Haas and Klemmer. Klemmer would be my choice if I was going into the season with a gun prop, but it is really hard to pick up an extra origin player

    Big question with Klemmer is how does the new coach rotate his forwards. Klemmer was playing big mins last year under Brown, does Obrien continue that or spread the load a bit more. I guess it doesnt matter right now as people arent starting with Klem
    Mulvy
    Mulvy
    Moderator

    Posts : 22374
    Reputation : 13731
    Join date : 2016-01-26
    Location : Mulvania

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Really like what you have done with the squad aside from Luai at half. No halves coverage could see that plan blow up very quickly

    Well Brimson covers half, Lomax covers centre, Capewell covers 2rf, so there's some flexibility there. I'm not likely to run with this though btw. Just wanted to see what I could do with a Taupau team.
    multiple.scoregasms
    multiple.scoregasms
    Fanatic

    Posts : 10284
    Reputation : 7860
    Join date : 2015-10-29
    Age : 31

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:37 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Big question with Klemmer is how does the new coach rotate his forwards. Klemmer was playing big mins last year under Brown, does Obrien continue that or spread the load a bit more. I guess it doesnt matter right now as people arent starting with Klem

    From a football perspective Klemmer is at his best with shorter minutes. 2x25 minute stints are perfect for him to play high impact, bend the line with the ball and win rucks defensively. Last year Brown had him at 60 minutes due to lack of other options which forced him to be more of a work horse than an impact player. At the start of the year this was fine for the Knights as a team but when the niggles started to creep in he was less effective and the Knights had no go forward
    Mulvy
    Mulvy
    Moderator

    Posts : 22374
    Reputation : 13731
    Join date : 2016-01-26
    Location : Mulvania

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:45 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Just need a rookie WFB to be named, then can play Brimson in the halves instead

    Yeah exactly, doesn't even need to be first TLT either, if a decent option popped up in the first couple of weeks you can move Luai to NPR then.
    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo
    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo

    Posts : 1170
    Reputation : 1278
    Join date : 2018-01-06

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:21 am

    My 2nd most expensive player is nearly 400k cheaper than my most expensive player.

    Filthy middies all the way
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:27 am

    Camo123 wrote:If Jurbo and AFB are out for 1-2 weeks at start of season, would anyone pick base price possible replacements including Keppie or too much of a trap? Keppie started when Taupau was suspended in FW1 and got 46 in 45 mins but Thompson, Sironen & Paseka were also missing. Any idea how pack would look without Jurbo & AFB for 1-2 weeks (& Gosiewski also out with back injury early on) and if chance of replacement getting stable bench role with return of Jurbo & AFB

    8. Keppie/Sipley/Paseka
    9. Levi
    10. Taupau
    11. Thompson
    12. Sironen
    13. Waddell??
    14. Cust/Croker
    15. Keppie/Sipley/Paseka
    16. Keppie/Sipley/Paseka
    17. Williams/Olakau'ata/Boyle

    Doubtful. There will be bettwr cashcowsm the first two weeks they make good money and that will carry on after Jurbo and AFB get back, but they could be scoring 12 points off the bench and any other longterm cashcow keeps earning.

    You are locking yourself into trades for Week 3 off the bat, which is silly to do as you will surely already have other trades you want to make by then.
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:27 am

    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo wrote:My 2nd most expensive player is nearly 400k cheaper than my most expensive player.

    Filthy middies all the way

    Haas and who?
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:31 am

    mattnz wrote:
    Mulvy wrote:

    McInnes
    Kapow Mofo
    Lolo Lowe Stimson
    Moses Laui
    Capewell Nuff
    Paps Brimson Lomax

    Friend Koro Brailey Grant

    Magoulias 246k, 246k, 228k

    Not bad. Just need to get Laui into NPR's ASAP.

    Just need a rookie WFB to be named, then can play Brimson in the halves instead

    I get what you mean, but would you rather get points from a rookie WFB (at this stage it would be a winger.) Or Luai?
    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo
    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo

    Posts : 1170
    Reputation : 1278
    Join date : 2018-01-06

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:34 am

    RandomSil wrote:

    Haas and who?

    Friend
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:41 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Going to repost my reasons for starting without Haas for those that have a life and might have missed the post

    The main thing comes down to Haas not being that much better than the other options that the price is worth it. The extra cash from Cook(50k), Smith(90k), McInnes(100k), Taumalolo(125k), Bateman(130k) can do wonders for a similar score

    [/quote]

    Devils advocate going to post my feelings on Haas.

    Tl;dr: With the extra money from other options, can you make up potentially 12 points. While sacrificing a position with a lot of depth (in the case of McInnes, Smith and Cook). Also the main thing that the majority of teams are starting with him.

    Leaving Haas out is such a risky option. Its like going without Smith/Farah of years gone past or Cook last year.

    You save an extra $100k-$70k if you take one of the other main captains, but also risk the usual questions with Smith and Cook with a new pack as well. Haas had what was a career year stats wise. While being a breakout year the bloke who busted tackles only scored 4 tries all year. This year he will have an actual Halfback in Croft instead of what was a rotating door. Then Hooker is between McCullough and Turpin who both need to actually show up this year or lose their position now that there are alternatives.

    I can see a lot more attacking potential for him off an actually stable side. Then there is the fact he had a break out year, including rep honours and is still only 20 years old. Props normally dont peak until their mid 20s and he already had arguably one of the best Fantasy years. There is definitely a reason to say his scores dont continue, but how many times did we say that about Smith? If anythinf there is more upside potential with the idea of more attacking stats with an actual halfback taking pressure off Milford and an actual Fullback to open up the middle more.


    Haas has a break even of 69 points heading into round 1 and averaged 67 points last season. Cook and Smith averaged the closest at 62 and 63 points respectively. However they play in a position full of value at the moment with Friend/McInnes and 4 low midrange guys all potentially being worth a punt as well. So other than the value options at hooker, you also lose on average 8 or points a week by not having him, quickly adds up, and considering you are looking for value at the start of the year. It is a lot easier to shuffle your team now to come up with $100k now than in 6 rounds.

    Some people talked about making enough cash to bring him in by Round 6. Not only do you need to find the cash, but you already concede 50 points roughly from just 1 position. There is a lot of risk in not taking Haas and putting yourself behind the majority of the pack because he is so far ahead of other positions and captain choices.

    If he goes bust you dont lose much either. Like yes some initial cash, but you do that with anyone who goes bust. But the risk is mitigated because everyone else owns him and you can trade him to anyone. If you took say Cleary or Tedesco as options you would need to find extra cash to get a captain option as well
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:43 am

    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo wrote:
    RandomSil wrote:

    Haas and who?

    Friend

    No D Fifita? What does your squad look like?
    RandomSil
    RandomSil
    Moderator

    Posts : 9953
    Reputation : 3222
    Join date : 2015-01-12
    Age : 32

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by RandomSil Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:47 am

    So is the Grant hype confirming he is starting HOK or is he backup to Mbye? If Grant is on the bench is anyone starting with him?

    HOKs needed this year: B. Brailey, Korisau, Levi, Mann, Grant, Egan
    avatar
    mattnz
    Fanatic

    Posts : 19887
    Reputation : 7191
    Join date : 2018-03-11
    Location : Your pool

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by mattnz Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:54 am

    Enchanted Glossy Flamingo wrote:My 2nd most expensive player is nearly 400k cheaper than my most expensive player.

    Filthy middies all the way

    Would be interested to see your team, sounds like it is basically the opposite of mine.
    avatar
    mattnz
    Fanatic

    Posts : 19887
    Reputation : 7191
    Join date : 2018-03-11
    Location : Your pool

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by mattnz Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:56 am

    RandomSil wrote:

    I get what you mean, but would you rather get points from a rookie WFB (at this stage it would be a winger.) Or Luai?

    Depends who it is, Toa or Leleisaiuo I would play ahead of him.
    my tv broke
    my tv broke
    Fanatics Immortal

    Posts : 28416
    Reputation : 21074
    Join date : 2016-01-08

    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4 - Page 28 Empty Re: NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

    Post by my tv broke Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 am

    RandomSil wrote:So is the Grant hype confirming he is starting HOK or is he backup to Mbye? If Grant is on the bench is anyone starting with him?

    HOKs needed this year: B. Brailey, Korisau, Levi, Mann, Grant, Egan

    Aint no way they are making the trade to use Grant off the bench

      Current date/time is Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:41 pm