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My main thoughts on Haas come down to the fact that I think you can get comparable scores for cheaper price
Cook scoring 64 points a week vs Haas scoring 67 points a week sees you losing 15 points over the first 5 weeks in exchange for 60k. That's the difference between playing Adam Reynolds and Nathan Cleary, which should more than make up the difference if spent correctly. The difference is even more extreme when choosing someone that didn't get the fanhub tax. Taumalolo averaged 64 when healthy and can be had for 125k less than Haas. That could be the difference between starting with Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman in the halves
Cook scoring 64 points a week vs Haas scoring 67 points a week sees you losing 15 points over the first 5 weeks in exchange for 60k. That's the difference between playing Adam Reynolds and Nathan Cleary, which should more than make up the difference if spent correctly. The difference is even more extreme when choosing someone that didn't get the fanhub tax. Taumalolo averaged 64 when healthy and can be had for 125k less than Haas. That could be the difference between starting with Mitchell Moses and Corey Norman in the halves
RandomSil wrote:
Devils advocate going to post my feelings on Haas.
Tl;dr: With the extra money from other options, can you make up potentially 12 points. While sacrificing a position with a lot of depth (in the case of McInnes, Smith and Cook). Also the main thing that the majority of teams are starting with him.
Leaving Haas out is such a risky option. Its like going without Smith/Farah of years gone past or Cook last year.
You save an extra $100k-$70k if you take one of the other main captains, but also risk the usual questions with Smith and Cook with a new pack as well. Haas had what was a career year stats wise. While being a breakout year the bloke who busted tackles only scored 4 tries all year. This year he will have an actual Halfback in Croft instead of what was a rotating door. Then Hooker is between McCullough and Turpin who both need to actually show up this year or lose their position now that there are alternatives.
I can see a lot more attacking potential for him off an actually stable side. Then there is the fact he had a break out year, including rep honours and is still only 20 years old. Props normally dont peak until their mid 20s and he already had arguably one of the best Fantasy years. There is definitely a reason to say his scores dont continue, but how many times did we say that about Smith? If anythinf there is more upside potential with the idea of more attacking stats with an actual halfback taking pressure off Milford and an actual Fullback to open up the middle more.
Haas has a break even of 69 points heading into round 1 and averaged 67 points last season. Cook and Smith averaged the closest at 62 and 63 points respectively. However they play in a position full of value at the moment with Friend/McInnes and 4 low midrange guys all potentially being worth a punt as well. So other than the value options at hooker, you also lose on average 8 or points a week by not having him, quickly adds up, and considering you are looking for value at the start of the year. It is a lot easier to shuffle your team now to come up with $100k now than in 6 rounds.
Some people talked about making enough cash to bring him in by Round 6. Not only do you need to find the cash, but you already concede 50 points roughly from just 1 position. There is a lot of risk in not taking Haas and putting yourself behind the majority of the pack because he is so far ahead of other positions and captain choices.
If he goes bust you dont lose much either. Like yes some initial cash, but you do that with anyone who goes bust. But the risk is mitigated because everyone else owns him and you can trade him to anyone. If you took say Cleary or Tedesco as options you would need to find extra cash to get a captain option as well
