HomeRabbits21 wrote:Does anyone see the Storms Max King 320k or Tino 300k being fantasy relevant?
Not really, someone will correct me, but the Storm's fringe bench forwards usually get fuck all minutes.
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Not really, someone will correct me, but the Storm's fringe bench forwards usually get fuck all minutes.
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So you finished 128th last season, is your goal to half that and try to finish 64th?Mulvy wrote:
Not really, someone will correct me, but the Storm's fringe bench forwards usually get fuck all minutes.
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I reckon Flanagan will be first choice goal kicker for Easts.
Are people not interested in him as they think Keary will still do quite a bit of kicking?
Are people not interested in him as they think Keary will still do quite a bit of kicking?
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castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
For a start Jarome Hughes is priced at 39. Secondly, you may consider that he may be more likely to score something like 50 as a average.
He played a big minutes in the halves in R13 where he scored 67 (Croft got injured) and R18, where he scored 63 (Papenhuyzen started at 5/8 and shifted to FB pretty early). He will have about 30-35 points just in base stats (kick metres, tackles, and run metres) before any attacking points come in to consideration. That and he will be one of the play makers for the Storm and have Papenhuyzen to work with.
Croft has gone from the Storm to the Broncos. No Smith, No Papy, No Munster to work off. Take time to gel with Isaako and Milford. Also he has a pretty dodgy floor in the halves.
Anyway, you don't have to see value there if you don't want to. But, I certainly do!
I think Jarome Hughes is a much surer option that Croft. Quite a bit under valued.
It is pretty easy to see how he could average 50 per week.
Feels a stretch and Hughes doesn’t fit my structure anyway but I agree He’s a nice enough choice, but mainly as a second half and for a decent floor. He shouldn’t explode on you with any scores in the teens...
Last 5, 80min games at half:
HUGHES - 54, 37, 44, 32, 33, 35
CROFT - 30, 47, 46, 45, 64
With a better kicking game, Croft certainly has the edge in base
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castlecrag sweethearts wrote:So if Aubbusson is named to start TLT R1 you are not gonna choose him? That is where he played 80 minutes for most of last season including right up to the end.
Not even for his looks
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Rabbits21 wrote:I reckon Flanagan will be first choice goal kicker for Easts.
Are people not interested in him as they think Keary will still do quite a bit of kicking?
An interesting thing I noticed is that when Croft got injured at the end of last season, Cameron Smith took on a lot more kicking responsibility. He will not play origin and therefore may be considered a safe captain keeper with a bit of an upside from extra kick metres (small sample I know)
Koroisau can put on some junk scores when playing big minutes at HOK. He is taxed quite a bit too. I know he is undervalued but maybe it is worth prioritising Smith as the must have gun?
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So you finished 128th last season, is your goal to half that and try to finish 64th?
I don't know about you, but my goal is always to win this thing! When that inevitably falls out of reach I'd be happy with any kind of silverware, given I have none. Winning a fantatics league or Cowboys league, or at least knocking off Honeysett in the mod's league would be good, he'll be unbearable if he wins again.
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castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
I am not choosing either Lomax or Best in my team. Both represent very poor value and are unlikely to score well or make a lot of cash. Capewell, Aubbusson (if starting), and Burns offer much greater value here and than anywhere in FRF>
Have to agree. Lomax and Best are pretty shocking starting options. Also don’t rate Brailey at 0.5 PPM while we are putting shit on highly owned.
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castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
An interesting thing I noticed is that when Croft got injured at the end of last season, Cameron Smith took on a lot more kicking responsibility. He will not play origin and therefore may be considered a safe captain keeper with a bit of an upside from extra kick metres (small sample I know)
I agree, Smith hasn't had the attention could/should have had.
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Yeah the extra metres will come from Milford. As I said, everyone who is on him is assumedly doing so under the thought that Seibold’s plan will be for Croft to be the one steering the pack, he was put into the leadership role and he will give him the ownership he never received at the Storm, which in a fantasy sense just means the ball goes to him first on 5th tackle every time. I expect he will do all the long kicking and Milford will be used close to the line for try scoring opportunities. The same game plan Seibs used with Reynolds and Walker. Milford did so much kicking last season because he was always paired with Nikorima and others who were even worse at kicking so he had to step up. But Milford is better playing off the cuff “eyes up football” Seibold calls it. This is why they would have bought someone like Croft in the first place, to free up Milford to play the game that is more natural to him than being an organiser. Benji Marshall had the same problem, they kept playing him as an organising half when he’s a better runner of the ball and his game suffered. And the last point I will reiterate is that if Milford is kicking in the trials, then most coaches will jump off Croft. I think we will see the plan for their season unfold pretty evidently in the preseason
Milf still did most of the kicking even when he moved to fullback last season, averaging 308 meters there, which is unheard of for a fullback.
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B. Brailey had a PPM of 0.61 last season, surely that slightly improves, so even if he plays 60mins surelily he can average 38-40 points a game.GreenMachine wrote:
Have to agree. Lomax and Best are pretty shocking starting options. Also don’t rate Brailey at 0.5 PPM while we are putting shit on highly owned.
You would expect he would run the ball a bit more with a few more darts too, he barely ran the ball last season when he had chances too.
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my tv broke wrote:I dont think anyone has predicted Carrigan to start other than me and a couple of other hopeful fantasy coaches.
He is a chance, but there hasnt been anything concrete to suggest he will. Even if he does, 40 mins isnt really enough to justify picking him, as much as Id love to. I still might..
I’m not certain on his minutes, but Carrigan mainly passes the eye test for me. I think he’s pretty important to you blokes, and will only grow in importance to balance out all that explosiveness of Fifita, Haas, TPJ
He’s a worker and be it Fensom or Dallas Johnson or Nathan Brown or Hindmarsh for that matter, have always enjoyed one forward slot given to a workhorse forward.
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Good points but I think Friend and Api offer enough value at hooker to steer me clear.castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
An interesting thing I noticed is that when Croft got injured at the end of last season, Cameron Smith took on a lot more kicking responsibility. He will not play origin and therefore may be considered a safe captain keeper with a bit of an upside from extra kick metres (small sample I know)
Koroisau can put on some junk scores when playing big minutes at HOK. He is taxed quite a bit too. I know he is undervalued but maybe it is worth prioritising Smith as the must have gun?
I was talking about Flanagan here by the way initially too!
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castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
Mikaele priced at 26 - Predicted to start. In games where he gets around 40 minutes averages around 40. Bit of a risk but one of the best value options there I have seen
Carrigan priced at 30. - Predicted to start at Lock. In games where he gets around 40 minutes averaged slightly over 40.
I will re-assess after the trials and TLT but this is the best value in FRF I could find.
Much much better value than Best and arguably better than Lomax.
Mikaele has had 5 starts at prop and averaged just 33 minutes even when starting. At his PPM of 0.84 he hits around what he is priced at. In 4 of those 5 games as a starter he scored 23 or less ... ouch !!
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Rabbits21 wrote:Currently have Haas and Tetevano as starting props.
Tetevano if he plays 45mins should average around 35 and make around 100k as Camo said.
I’m keen on Carrigan though but an injury must happen to the Broncos starting pack I reckon for there to be enough value in Carrigan.
What turned you around on Tetevano? I had him in my first draft team a few weeks ago and you had advised then that you werent convinced on him.
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Rabbits21 wrote:I reckon Flanagan will be first choice goal kicker for Easts.
Are people not interested in him as they think Keary will still do quite a bit of kicking?
Im pretty keen. Will watch him closely over preseason. Scored quite well for the sharks and could potentially pick up Cronks kms. Need to decide if he is worth the extra cash over Mann
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The Goat Boys wrote:Has anyone else thought about Takieaho (sorry about spelling). His Breakeven is 47. Checked the footy statistics sight he averages over that when he doesn't have an injury affected game. Any opinions on him?
He’s tentatively in my team. I think I’ll end up with 2 of SST, D Fifita and Friend, depending on TLT. At the moment, I’ve left Friend out.
I think he’s an elite running middle forward, up there with Taupau, AFB, Klemmer, Papalii, Fifita. All those averaged low 50s... SST will do it too this year IMO. He probs would’ve done it last year without the 9 score and reduced minutes late in the year due to injury.
Risk is it’s the Roosters, so they might not need him to consistently play the required 45-50 mins.
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Had a crack at it. Best I can come up with on one attempt...
59k itb
McInnis
Haas, Mikaele
Lolo, Su'A, Stimson
Moses, Mann
Best, Watkins
Pap, Lomax, Brimson
Koro, Grant, B Brailey, Williams
Luai, Musgrove, Magoulias, 228
Watkins is an interesting one, could actually be some value there. He only played 6 games last season and Titans got thumped in all of them. Didnt score less than 20 including a 20 and 23 that were both reduced minutes. If Titans can find any form, he could do ok.
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Adrianoooo wrote:Is Koro a must have? Seems he’s in everyone’s team rn.
If I miss out on him it allows me to have Haas, Friend, Lolo, DFifita, Moses and Paps in my team. Leaves me a little light in the backs with Isaako+Lomax at FB but it looks a fair enough trade off
Not sure essential, but definitely really like him. When I went searching for money to save for guns, Brailey was quickly gone before Koro. I think have to be careful with getting too attached with the 3-400k bracket players. They are pretty awful and as soon as TLT delivers any base price or rookies they will be the first of the “middies” to go
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I feel like I got FoMo last year with Friend scoring 90 and Milchcow being so high on him. At the same time his 2017 and 2018 averages arent hot for 70+ minute games but if he hits his 2016 form scoring 60 points at his price is big.
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