Draft Game 2016 v1

Bren wrote:
Everyone can twist words to suit their argument such as you seem to be doing constantly lately. If the Broncos had won your point would be worthless. Bennetts continued success is proven, not with just one team but multiple. What if the Broncos win in 2016? Ill bookmark this to remind you come October.

Twisting words. How so? My words are plain and simple. There is no twisting of facts to make my case. You are the one who seems to like ignoring questions when you don't like the answer to them. I have not once said that Wayne Benett was not a highly successful coach in the NRL. My only statements are that he has not had the success of other coaches in recent years. If Bennett wins in 2016 of course my statement will be false.

But as of right now, is your coach a premiership or minor premiership winner in the last 5 years. Yes or no?

I really liked the look of Quicksands team early in the draft. I'm not sure where it started going wrong but it ended by having only 1 prop and a centre on the bench. At least we all know where Tim Sheens is spending his time now that he's unemployed

Krump wrote:All that effort for the brag from Random made irrelevant by the fact he only has a 60 minute hooker and 80mins worth of Viagra

Other than the fact he played more than 60 minutes on numerous occasions, plus no need for Viagra.. I have a Tim Simona poster.

Bren wrote:Sorry how many Premierships has Robinson won in the last 25 years?

At some point in those 25 years I believe he celebrated his 18th birthday. Since that time he has gone on to coach the Sydney Roosters to a recent premiership victory as well as 3 consecutive minor premierships. During that time Wayne Bennett has waited for his pension to clear and for his new box of adult diapers to be delivered each and every week

And as for how Robinson will go without RTS and Jennings this year. I guess we will wait and see. But given you didn't see Ben Hunt dropping the NRL premiership when they had 1 hand on the trophy I am going to assume that you, like me, do not have the ability to see into the future. Therefore any potential success/failure that Robinson may have is not important. His track record in recent years is of the highest honour, unlike Bennett's.

The most important thing though is that Trent Robinson is free to go wherever he wants and do whatever he wants while Wayne Benett has to be signed out of the old folks home by Kevin Walters every Friday night in order to attend a simple footy game

Just noticed that the only real edge forward SI has in his team is Lewis Brown and he's more of an error making centre than an edge forward. Mobility is key in the game of rugby league, as shown in the selection of "the slow arse Simonas".

Krump wrote:I really liked the look of Quicksands team early in the draft. I'm not sure where it started going wrong but it ended by having only 1 prop and a centre on the bench. At least we all know where Tim Sheens is spending his time now that he's unemployed

Could be worse, he could have ended up in a position where his best forward is Adam Blair.

Beast From The Big East wrote:

At some point in those 25 years I believe he celebrated his 18th birthday. Since that time he has gone on to coach the Sydney Roosters to a recent premiership victory as well as 3 consecutive minor premierships. During that time Wayne Bennett has waited for his pension to clear and for his new box of adult diapers to be delivered each and every week

RECENT=Within the last 12 months. Your living in the past Beast, quit living in the past.

Beast From The Big East wrote:

Twisting words. How so? My words are plain and simple. There is no twisting of facts to make my case. You are the one who seems to like ignoring questions when you don't like the answer to them. I have not once said that Wayne Benett was not a highly successful coach in the NRL. My only statements are that he has not had the success of other coaches in recent years. If Bennett wins in 2016 of course my statement will be false.

But as of right now, is your coach a premiership or minor premiership winner in the last 5 years. Yes or no?

I have and will continue to answer any and all of your questions. No Bennett has not won a GF in the past 5 years however he has won 2 in the past 10 years. Did your coach take his team to the GF this year? Yes or no? As of this point in time Bennett has won more Premierships then Robinson has he not? Yes or no? Do you think Bennett under or over achieved this year with his current squad? Surely if your coach is better his side would of beaten the Broncos and made the GF? Right?

Random wrote:

Could be worse, he could have ended up in a position where his best forward is Adam Blair.

The same Adam Blair who led a Broncos that was widely believed to be incapable of a top 4 finish to within one dropped kickoff of a premiership?

Krump wrote:

Beast From The Big East wrote:

At some point in those 25 years I believe he celebrated his 18th birthday. Since that time he has gone on to coach the Sydney Roosters to a recent premiership victory as well as 3 consecutive minor premierships. During that time Wayne Bennett has waited for his pension to clear and for his new box of adult diapers to be delivered each and every week

RECENT=Within the last 12 months. Your living in the past Beast, quit living in the past.

Coming from the guy with Billy Slater.

Bren wrote:
IDo you think Bennett under or over achieved this year with his current squad?

Any team with players the calibre of Blair, Milford and Boyd was rightly entitled to make a grand final. It's obvious to the rugby league enthusiast that Brisbanes success was down to those 3 players and nobody else.

Bren wrote:Lets see how Robinson goes this year without RTS, Jennings and Maloney. Where do you predict they will finish?

This kind of downs your argument on why Bennet did so well last year

Not like he managed a bunch of first graders to the grand final, where would the donkeys of finished without Parker, Milford, Mcguire, Thaiday





or Hunt....

Krump wrote:
The same Adam Blair who led a Broncos that was widely believed to be incapable of a top 4 finish to within one dropped kickoff of a premiership?

So it is true? Many believed the Broncos wouldnt make the top 4? That must meant they over achieved then yes? Must come down to their coach and all the changes he made upon his arrival.

Random wrote:

Coming from the guy with Billy Slater.

Do tell who you'd select as the QLD fullback in 2016? Not Australia as you'd obviously select Tedesco even though he'll more than likely be in plaster.

Welshy87 wrote:

This kind of downs your argument on why Bennet did so well last year

Not like he managed a bunch of first graders to the grand final, where would the donkeys of finished without Parker, Milford, Mcguire, Thaiday





or Hunt....

I thought McGuire missed a large portion of the season due to injury? I recall many people suggesting Thaiday was getting by on past success?

Krump wrote:

Random wrote:

Coming from the guy with Billy Slater.

Do tell who you'd select as the QLD fullback in 2016? Not Australia as you'd obviously select Tedesco even though he'll more than likely be in plaster.

Remind me who sat out last year because of injury.

In regards to Queensland.. Probably Milford, he belongs at FB.

Bren wrote:
So it is true? Many believed the Broncos wouldnt make the top 4? That must meant they over achieved then yes? Must come down to their coach and all the changes he made upon his arrival.

Personally I think it was mainly down to the brilliance of Milford who was signed pre Bennett. He's clearly the most electrifying player in the comp. I won't downplay the significance of the signings of Blair and Boyd though. Perhaps Bennett could get into recruitment, the way he was thoroughly out coached by Green in the GF shows that the modern game is passing him by.

Bren wrote:
I thought McGuire missed a large portion of the season due to injury? I recall many people suggesting Thaiday was getting by on past success?

all helped, not like mcguire went down then they went on a run is it?

Bren wrote:
I thought McGuire missed a large portion of the season due to injury? I recall many people suggesting Thaiday was getting by on past success?

Right and right again. That's why Adam Blair played such a huge role.

Bren wrote:
I have and will continue to answer any and all of your questions. No Bennett has not won a GF in the past 5 years however he has won 2 in the past 10 years. Did your coach take his team to the GF this year? Yes or no? As of this point in time Bennett has won more Premierships then Robinson has he not? Yes or no? Do you think Bennett under or over achieved this year with his current squad? Surely if your coach is better his side would of beaten the Broncos and made the GF? Right?

Finally we get some answers to the questions. I will gladly answer these questions on the first go without making accusations of word twisting.

No Trent Robinson did not take his team to the GF this year.
Yes Bennett has won more premierships in his 40 years coaching than Robinson has won in his 5 years
Bennett achieved as expected. No team is expected to win and therefore he did not underachieve. Bennett had a great squad and setup and did not overachieve.
So if placing higher than the other coach is what makes them better does that mean Robinson was better in 2013 and 2014? Because in his 3 years as an NRL coach Robinson would have a 2-1 record and last time I checked 2 is still greater than 1