NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 17 - Crack'a'Corona Sunday

Teeth Eater wrote:Anyway, TLT. Any excitement for it, or just a futile exercise?

CHN to be named, everyone literally forget about that stuff that happened

my tv broke wrote:Anyway, updated BE's on the website. As always, they are an indication only

Thank you, sir, and most appreciated.

Teeth Eater wrote:I really don't want to get involved as it'll just offend most but I think the biggest issue is definitely so many people panicking. The disease is dangerous to the elderly and those with pre-existing health-related conditions, and they're the ones that should be receiving the care.

Every young fit person with a runny nose taking all our toilet paper and taking hospital beds they probably don't need is the issue (not as much as issue here, yet, as in Europe). Experts have been saying that this virus is little more than a mild cold for 80% of us, so if everyone stopped panicking and concentrated on looking out for and caring for those most vulnerable, things wouldn't have got so stupid. 

I personally think that shutting the country down will have far, far worse effects than the virus would... if humans weren't a bunch of selfish, illogical gronks. 

Anyway, apologies to all that offends. It's not meant to but this thing has brought out the absolute worst in humans, and just as we'd all still have plenty of toilet paper if every selfish fucker hadn't gone out and bought them all, this virus probably wouldnt have gone so ridiculous if care for those who actually need it had been prioritised instead of the hoardes of people that don't need it. But that would require some common decency, which appears not to exist. 

Anyway, TLT. Any excitement for it, or just a futile exercise?

Only 20% are affected? Phew, that's only 1.5 billion people!

The only thing I agree with you about is that stockpiling toilet paper is fucking stupid. The rest was drivel.

This intensive care doctor from Toowoomba explains why it affects everyone:

"Adam Visser
March 14 at 11:31 AM ·
I’m an intensive care specialist in a small city.

Coronavirus isn’t just like the flu, but it’s only really very dangerous to the elderly or the already unwell. Quite a lot of people in their 80s will die, but most of the rest of us will probably be okay.

If you’re in your 70s and you get Coronavirus, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 60s and you have a heart attack, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 50s and need bowel cancer surgery, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 40s and have a bad car accident, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 30s and have terrible pre-eclampsia as a complication of pregnancy, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 20s and have a bad reaction to a party drug, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

I have 7 beds equipped with life support machines. We have a plan to increase to about 25. Getting more isn’t a matter or more equipment or more money, that bit is easy. There are not enough skilled staff, even if we all work double shifts every day for six months (and we probably will).

If 50% of my city gets infected, that’s 75,000 people. If 5% of them need life support (which is the estimate), that’s 3750 people. For 25 beds.

And then I might not have a bed for you.

So it’s up to you to flatten the curve. Wash your hands. Stay home.

ScoMo #lockusdown"

Teeth Eater wrote:The panic and hysteria is what's made it all get so out of hand. Obviously it would never have happened this way, but imagine how much better off we'd have been if we never even knew about it? Young fit people got a sniffle, and they just exercised normal precaution and rode their colds out, whilst the sickest amongst us received the care they needed.

Erm.. but this is exactly how the virus is passed on to the elderly and vulnerable?

Most people won't show signs of the virus for around 5 days. Some not at all. That is how it spreads so fast.

That is not panic, just facts.

my tv broke wrote:

Erm.. but this is exactly how the virus is passed on to the elderly and vulnerable?

Most people won't show signs of the virus for around 5 days. Some not at all. That is how it spreads so fast.

That is not panic, just facts.

This

Mulvy wrote:

Only 20% are affected? Phew, that's only 1.5 billion people!

The only thing I agree with you about is that stockpiling toilet paper is fucking stupid. The rest was drivel.

This intensive care doctor from Toowoomba explains why it affects everyone:

"Adam Visser
March 14 at 11:31 AM ·
I’m an intensive care specialist in a small city.

Coronavirus isn’t just like the flu, but it’s only really very dangerous to the elderly or the already unwell. Quite a lot of people in their 80s will die, but most of the rest of us will probably be okay.

If you’re in your 70s and you get Coronavirus, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 60s and you have a heart attack, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 50s and need bowel cancer surgery, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 40s and have a bad car accident, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 30s and have terrible pre-eclampsia as a complication of pregnancy, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 20s and have a bad reaction to a party drug, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

I have 7 beds equipped with life support machines. We have a plan to increase to about 25. Getting more isn’t a matter or more equipment or more money, that bit is easy. There are not enough skilled staff, even if we all work double shifts every day for six months (and we probably will).

If 50% of my city gets infected, that’s 75,000 people. If 5% of them need life support (which is the estimate), that’s 3750 people. For 25 beds.

And then I might not have a bed for you.

So it’s up to you to flatten the curve. Wash your hands. Stay home.

ScoMo #lockusdown"

TLDR, our health systems (across the developed world) are simply not equiped to treat all those that will need it if the spread is not contained. See Italy and Spain for examples occurring right now.

It's scary stuff.

Social distancing and proper hygiene. Not to much to ask in the short term I don’t think.

We are going to get told-off soon for not talking fantasy football - shall we move on?

Teeth Eater wrote:



The panic and hysteria is what's made it all get so out of hand. Obviously it would never have happened this way, but imagine how much better off we'd have been if we never even knew about it? Young fit people got a sniffle, and they just exercised normal precaution and rode their colds out, whilst the sickest amongst us received the care they needed.

Not sure you appreciate how bad things are overseas, in Italy they basically have had to let people die because they simply don't have the manpower and equipment to treat them. If no one knew about it and it spread everywhere, it would be an absolute nightmare. It would bring the world to its knees.

The general public are being dumb, but the world is doing what it is doing because experts in the field have urged them to do it.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:We are going to get told-off soon for not talking fantasy football - shall we move on?

Jaydn Su'A will be marking David Fifita this week

I was going to hold him, but maybe i'll flip him. Hmm..

Teeth Eater wrote:I really don't want to get involved as it'll just offend most but I think the biggest issue is definitely so many people panicking. ..........?

Can't remember who posted it but someone posted a really good link explaining why this is a big deal. To summarise, 20% of a lot of people is still a lot of people. The disease is twice as infectious as the flu, but at least with the flu we have a vaccine. This leads to higher mortality rates as seen in Hubei, Wuhan and Italy as medical facilities couldn't cope until they shut down. And if you got sick or injured, now you're competing with Covid-19 patients for bedspace and treatment. Essentially, it was better to shut down than face rampant viral transmission.

But agree ref not panicking. But this is serious. The governments are doing their best to not overreact, and tbh Aus and NZ are doing a decent job. But if they let up the effort, we're in for some tough times.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Social distancing and proper hygiene. Not to much to ask in the short term I don’t think.

Agreed.

Has a timeline on a vaccine even been mentioned?

Mulvy wrote:

Agreed.

It’s why I’ve taken up golf!

Rippin and Tearin wrote:We are going to get told-off soon for not talking fantasy football - shall we move on?

TTurbo sucks.

my tv broke wrote:

Erm.. but this is exactly how the virus is passed on to the elderly and vulnerable?

Most people won't show signs of the virus for around 5 days. Some not at all. That is how it spreads so fast.

That is not panic, just facts.

I'm not saying it won't get passed on, though. It will. Just like all other types of flu. Social distancing and cancelled footy won't stop it getting passed on. It'll slow it, yes, but won't stop it. But not everyone needs urgent medical attention.

My ridiculous POD meme team trades:

Granville ---> Koroisau
Mitchell ---> Isaako

My team trades:

none

Teeth Eater wrote:

I'm not saying it won't get passed on, though. It will. Just like all other types of flu. Social distancing and cancelled footy won't stop it getting passed on. It'll slow it, yes, but won't stop it. But not everyone needs urgent medical attention.

It can’t be stopped that’s for sure, but a sustained effort to slow the thing down will help the medical facilities cope with patients and give time for a vaccine to be found and administered.

And if it takes house arrest (excessive term used for effect) and the taking away of some entertainment liberties to do it for the short term then I don’t see the problem.

SoylentGreen wrote:It's a difficult situation to find the path of being cautious without causing panic.

Yesterday I cancelled a local sports competition that  I administer. Most people took it well but a couple had a go at me for it - including one coach who is probably the most at-risk person associated with the club.

It's tough, I am about to register to play soccer this season, without knowing if I will actually play a game or not (My current assumption is season won't kick off on time, but I'm hopeful we will get some sort of comp in)

Organising training/coaches etc for my kids teams also not knowing if we'l actually ever play

Rippin and Tearin wrote:We are going to get told-off soon for not talking fantasy football - shall we move on?

Current mod position is COVID talk is OK in the main thread, as most of the talk is around the impact on NRL/Fantasy.

Like everything these days, it can be re-evaluated if things change.