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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 48 - Show me the team list with Averillo

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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:Why wasn’t there this uproar when they didn’t restart the comp after the lockdown break then?

    I heavily planned for origin and bye this year and spent weeks and wasted trades trying to field a team? Coming back and not restarting also helped some and affected a lot. Isn’t this the same thing?

    There's a difference between adjusting to changes thrust upon them. It wasn't Fantasy's decision to remove origin and the byes, that was a decision that was thrust upon them by the NRL. And noone was suggesting the NRL restart the comp in a manner that best preserved the Fantasy setup - it was up to Fantasy to adjust to the changing situation.

    Just chucking in extra trades because a few people had some poor weeks is purely a fantasy decision, and an unnecessary one.
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    Post by Dttragic2016 Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Because we've spent the past few weeks trading based on having a limited number available. Made decisions on the basis that everyone we trade in might have to stay for the whole season. avoiding possible cash cows or short term prospects based on not wanting to get stuck with them.

    Changes the game

    This isn't some surprise situation. They knew after lockdown that the number of remaining trades wasn't a large amount, being willing to change after a month is bullshit. If they were happy with this possibility in round 3, not that much has changed to make it any different.  Small squad sizes and small trades was a known situation. If they don't like it, change between seasons, not during one. Supercoach deliberately left the number of trades unchanged upon restart just to help people cope with

    And this is twice now they've changed the game based on complaints. Rescoring Latrell is one thing, the impact to that was relatively minimal. But adding more trades is a massive change and hurts a lot of people who deserve to be pissed off

    And now that the precedent has been massively set, how can we trust that they won't add more trades again closer to the end. Trading hard early and hoping for another bonus is a strategy that would be hard to argue against.

    Agree 100% this is an absolute fucking joke. ten years of playing the game and can't remember really complaining even though the site/app has been a joke at times. usually just get on with whatever they throw at us knowing that the game and scoring system is the best out there and our community on here is awesome to be a part of. I'll still dedicate my time to the game as I genuinely love it, but this has made an absolute mockery of out of any respect/goodwill the guys that run it have with serious long term players.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm

    Weiland wrote:

    Only the hardcore players will really complain about it, and those are the players who won't be going anywhere.

    They've been slowly defecting to Supercoach and VSDT, and this will hasten the exodus

    Not everyone will go, but some will, and numbers will be down again next year
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:50 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Because we've spent the past few weeks trading based on having a limited number available. Made decisions on the basis that everyone we trade in might have to stay for the whole season. avoiding possible cash cows or short term prospects based on not wanting to get stuck with them.

    Changes the game

    This isn't some surprise situation. They knew after lockdown that the number of remaining trades wasn't a large amount, being willing to change after a month is bullshit. If they were happy with this possibility in round 3, not that much has changed to make it any different.  Small squad sizes and small trades was a known situation. If they don't like it, change between seasons, not during one. Supercoach deliberately left the number of trades unchanged upon restart just to help people cope with

    And this is twice now they've changed the game based on complaints. Rescoring Latrell is one thing, the impact to that was relatively minimal. But adding more trades is a massive change and hurts a lot of people who deserve to be pissed off

    And now that the precedent has been massively set, how can we trust that they won't add more trades again closer to the end. Trading hard early and hoping for another bonus is a strategy that would be hard to argue against.
    I get too angry to post as sensible and well thought out as this Milch. But fucking nailed it.
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:50 pm

    I used the nrl.com form and waded into their FB page with a comment. Nobody has said this is a good decision there.

    I’ve got a long history of hating Harvey Norman, can’t believe they are fucking me even when I refuse to shop there hahaha
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:54 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I’ll still play on but it’s pretty messed up. I guess it suits the casuals but most of the casuals are playing SuperCoach instead anyway.

    Huge advantage to those that max traded and/or lost guns specifically in R7.

    Huge kick in the teeth to those that saved trades and/or played with less than 17 in R6 but got through unscathed in R7.

    Yep I've max traded and now feel like I have the luxury to dump both Moses and Munster instead of playing the waiting game. Defo helps those who have already traded their way to more guns / final 17s.

    Going to finish the season obviously but probably done next year.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:54 pm

    VERTiiGO wrote:yeah to me it sucks but there is abit of an over reaction here... "we have planned and made choices based on the idea of this many trades" well yeah... i also had plans to have Turbo when i bought him, I also planned on having Capewell more than a week as well as Moses.... shit doesnt go to plan and you adapt... the best players will still win at the end of the day imo.
    That’s just bad luck but both have huge injury wraps so some would of avoided purely because of that vs saving trades or going in another trade direction. You can’t just change the rules mid season it alters the game unfairly.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:54 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    No it’s not can’t fucking plan for a global pandemic can you? Plus all the new rules and trades were clearly set up before the comp restarted. If they had said in round 8 extra trades will be available then it’s changes the tactical game beforehand.

    I’m not saying to plan for a pandemic obviously. I just mean over the break everything changed went to one ref 6 again blah blah blah. Over that time some people benefitted with the not being restarted and some people didn’t. I don’t see why everyone wasn’t brought back to a level field.

    I’m not saying I’m for it I’m just asking why there was no outrage then compared to now when to me both scenarios have fucked some people and benefitted others.

    It makes little difference to me cause I’m already out the door at the end of the year. Two trades isn’t going to keep me. I’m only hanging around this year because I don’t want to let the leagues down.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:55 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    There's a difference between adjusting to changes thrust upon them. It wasn't Fantasy's decision to remove origin and the byes, that was a decision that was thrust upon them by the NRL. And noone was suggesting the NRL restart the comp in a manner that best preserved the Fantasy setup - it was up to Fantasy to adjust to the changing situation.

    Just chucking in extra trades because a few people had some poor weeks is purely a fantasy decision, and an unnecessary one.

    Ok fair enough!
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    Post by filthridden Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:56 pm

    My favourite response on facebook so far:

    "Just spent 5K at HN. when i walk in to return it and they ask me "is there something wrong?" "yes, you F'd the whole comp""
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:57 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    They've been slowly defecting to Supercoach and VSDT, and this will hasten the exodus

    Not everyone will go, but some will, and numbers will be down again next year

    What is VSDT and what’s it like? Is it like old fantasy?
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    Post by luckynumber8 Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:57 pm

    I'm not going to complain, my team has had more injuries than the whole city of Australia.
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:58 pm

    Andy V wrote:

    Yep I've max traded and now feel like I have the luxury to dump both Moses and Munster instead of playing the waiting game. Defo helps those who have already traded their way to more guns / final 17s.

    Going to finish the season obviously but probably done next year.

    I only started last year, previously just been a Nearly Sport/NRL CEO player, those kind of platforms. I’ll see it out but I reckon I’ll have a look at doing VSDT. Probably not SuperCoach


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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:58 pm

    Might of won the comp few years back if I had been given an extra 2 trades earlier in season
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:59 pm

    @MTB can you platform your own fantasy comp? Serious question
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:00 pm

    I’d join and pay for MTBs fantasy comp
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:00 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:I’d join and pay for MTBs fantasy comp
    Your not allowed in.
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:01 pm

    Since it is what it is, I’m looking at options and I still can’t see 2 good trades let alone 4 for me anyway. I might save the trades. Will come in handy when they randomly remove 2 later in the season.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:02 pm

    filthridden wrote:My favourite response on facebook so far:

    "Just spent 5K at HN. when i walk in to return it and they ask me "is there something wrong?" "yes, you F'd the whole comp""

    Its interesting, the official line is that the extra trades are because of the Harvey Norman sponsorship, not because everyone has has a bad 2 weeks. So we should bombard the Harvey Norman website telling them to reconsider their decision.
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    Post by luckynumber8 Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:02 pm

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    I'd join and pay for MTBs onlyfans.

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