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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 56 - The one hour backflip

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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:54 am

    mattnz wrote:
    Same, a few hours out and not sure what to do.

    have you gone cold on Crichton mate?
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:55 am

    easytiger wrote:

    Similarly it looked like the Knights were paying overs for Ponga when they offered him good money to leave the Cowboys.
    As it turns out it he was good value and helped them build a good roster.

    I can't believe they got Pearce and Klemmer on such a steal! Pearce out of favour at the Roosters and was pretty desperate for a new start. Klemmer the same. Klemmer having to leave Dogs due to cap space. Knights recruitment did very well to secure these players.
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    Post by Regulator Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:55 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Playing footy at Kirwan High School (thaiday, Brandon Smith, Aaron Payne, Rhyse Martin, Nene Macdonald, Lolo + others) I knew a lot of fellow players who were making QLD/NSW representative squads and Australian Rep Squads who were signed with clubs like the Cows and playing 20’s…. I also know a lot in this position whose careers were crippled by injuries, suicide, girlfriends, babies, drugs… I know us regular folk are all sitting here saying take the money take the money, but footy players don’t live everyday thinking they’ll break their leg tomorrow or get their contract ripped up, plus Gus makes a great point saying he will make more than enough money over the course of his career to live a long happy life.

    I guess I don’t really know what I am trying to say but the money shouldn’t be why he leaves. He shouldn’t go to a club because they are offering him 400K more than another or 200-300K over market price. Money isn’t everything. If his heart is at Brisbane than his hear is at Brisbane. He will either be known as a money chaser or someone willing to stay at his club and push through the hard times.

    It isn't about thinking they'll break their leg tomorrow, it's about securing your own future and your family's future. Which is basically the game of life that most people are playing.

    "plus Gus makes a great point saying he will make more than enough money over the course of his career".

    That's exactly the point, that isn't guaranteed. As per my friend's example. He will make more than enough money over the course of his career, if he is fortunate enough to not have any issues prevent that from happening. My mate was all set to be an international player for a long time, no doubt that would have followed a nice stint in Europe to get money like most do later as well. Then that was all taken away instantly, again at one cap. All that money that Gus would have told him he'd be earning over the course of his career, that you would have said he would get (this guy was at a level of hype in Union on a similar level) that didn't happen.

    Again, Yow Yeh probably thought he was looking at a nice 10-12 years of making huge money as well, but then look what happened.

    No players future is guaranteed.

    Taumalolo is the perfect example of someone who never has to worry about these things. Because he has actually banked the longterm money and contract.


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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:55 am

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    They said in the article he will be in Cordners jumper, would seem weird to change numbers for no reason.

    "Crichton will have a rare foray wearing Boyd Cordner's No.11 this week with the Roosters skipper having a spell after copping a heavy knock last Thursday."

    I thought that was really bizarre too.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:58 am

    mattnz wrote:
    They said in the article he will be in Cordners jumper, would seem weird to change numbers for no reason.

    "Crichton will have a rare foray wearing Boyd Cordner's No.11 this week with the Roosters skipper having a spell after copping a heavy knock last Thursday."

    Don't think that has anything to do with what side of the field he plays though.

    Crichton watch!!
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:59 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Obviously it pays off every now and then, as in Haas’s case. I just think a lot of clubs are throwing massive amounts of money at these unproven players. Then again, I guess that is the risk you have to be willing to take to secure your future.

    I just think contract prices are so far fetched today and clubs are signing million dollar players who probably aren’t million dollar players (I can probably think of 2-3 million dollar players) but then they don’t have the cap space to fill the rosters around them.

    Totally agree they are going over board. What will happen is the good clubs will correct, sign experienced players on value deals and be consistent top 8 forces.

    Personally there are a handful of players I would consider at 1 mil a year and none at 1.25 mil

    The 1 million dollar players need to produce not just on the field. They need to be the kind of players people want to play with. They need to be leaders of your club, great team mate, promote the club and game to sponsors. The margin of success is way too small otherwise

    For what it's worth my list would be Smith, DCE, Taumalolo, Tedesco. Few blokes on there way to joining this list like Murray and Cleary, but still a few years off.

    Give me a guy like RTS on 650-700k over Ponga/Fifita at 900k any day
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    Post by Joey Superior Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:59 am

    mattnz wrote:
    They said in the article he will be in Cordners jumper, would seem weird to change numbers for no reason.

    "Crichton will have a rare foray wearing Boyd Cordner's No.11 this week with the Roosters skipper having a spell after copping a heavy knock last Thursday."

    If the switch is on, up against cowboys right side defense could see him cross the line.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:00 am

    Regulator wrote:

    It isn't about thinking they'll break their leg tomorrow, it's about securing your own future and your family's future. Which is basically the game of life that most people are playing.

    "plus Gus makes a great point saying he will make more than enough money over the course of his career".

    That's exactly the point, that isn't guaranteed. As per my friend's example. He will make more than enough money over the course of his career, if he is fortunate enough to not have any issues prevent that from happening.

    Again, Yow Yeh probably thought he was looking at a nice 10-12 years of making huge money as well, but then look what happened.

    No players future is guaranteed.

    Taumalolo is the perfect example of someone who never has to worry about these things. Because he has actually banked the longterm money and contract.

    I understand what your saying... and I certainly think players take that into consideration, but I just don't think a 20 year old will be sitting there thinking I hope I don't have any issues that prevent me from ever playing footy again. Fifita is established in the NRL... he has made it... he is just worried about getting on the park and his next opponent.

    anyways... back to fantasy.

    I expect a different cowboys side tonight against a depleted Roosters squad. Cows at home and a bit of crowd behind them, don't chalk it up as an instant loss.
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    Post by filthridden Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:00 am

    All you lot talking about how money isn't everything sound like you've never had to worry about money.

    Take the money, Fifi. Be stupid to turn down that kinda contract.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:03 am

    Was now looking at Crichton in my WAGs team as I can afford him. But was sold on Mofo in one and JFH in the other.......so tough. Even though I'm leaning towards Mofo, JFH's DPP is almost more valuable. No missed tackles from him either the last two weeks!
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:04 am

    filthridden wrote:All you lot talking about how money isn't everything sound like you've never had to worry about money.

    Take the money, Fifi. Be stupid to turn down that kinda contract.

    Slightly out dated but there was a study done in 2010 that found a correlation between annual earnings and happiness tops out at about 75k a year. Above that point there is no marginal increase in happiness for the average person


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/05/can-money-buy-happiness-debate-study-on-success.html#:~:text=A%202010%20study%20out%20of,they%20feel%2C%20the%20study%20found.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:04 am

    filthridden wrote:All you lot talking about how money isn't everything sound like you've never had to worry about money.

    Take the money, Fifi. Be stupid to turn down that kinda contract.

    I'm aware I'm "privileged", but I've only been without work for 3 months of my life. I wouldn't say I earn a lot, but to be honest, money has never been a worry in my life, and for pretty much the entirety of my 20s i lived pay check to pay chekck.

    I don't have kids though...


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    Post by ytsb Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:05 am

    No denying you lot know more about League than Mal Meninga Smile Players bring more or less to the team than just their performance on the field. Hayne is a recent example
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:05 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Totally agree they are going over board. What will happen is the good clubs will correct, sign experienced players on value deals and be consistent top 8 forces.

    Personally there are a handful of players I would consider at 1 mil a year and none at 1.25 mil

    The 1 million dollar players need to produce not just on the field. They need to be the kind of players people want to play with. They need to be leaders of your club, great team mate, promote the club and game to sponsors. The margin of success is way too small otherwise

    For what it's worth my list would be Smith, DCE, Taumalolo, Tedesco. Few blokes on there way to joining this list like Murray and Cleary, but still a few years off.

    Give me a guy like RTS on 650-700k over Ponga/Fifita at 900k any day

    I would add Turbo to that nearly list if he can get some consistency together... I think Ponga isn't quite 1 mil player but definitely close to it.

    Was reading up on DCE's contract before. Not only is DCE earning $1.3 million this season, every time the salary cap goes up, the Manly skipper’s deal goes up with it!

    Crunch the numbers and the DCE deal works out as 16.5 per cent of the Sea Eagles salary cap every season until 2023.

    I can’t believe Foran is on a mil a year… what a shocker by the dogs there
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    Post by mattnz Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:06 am

    wolfking wrote:

    have you gone cold on Crichton mate?
    Definitely want Crichton this week. Have a number of guys I want to trade out this week, Moses, Kerr, Hess and trading out Moses leaves me short of a back up half.


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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:07 am

    Aubs looks more handsome in the 12 shirt. That's all it is.
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    Post by Mr Snrub Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:08 am

    I'm still unsure about trading out Best. The fantasy Q & A bought up a good point that when he does score tries he'll be putting some good scores on the board. In the meantime though you have 500k+ sitting in the centres which you can probably use to strengthen other areas due to a lack of good cash cows.

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:08 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    I'm aware I'm "privileged", but I've only been without work for 3 months of my life. I wouldn't say I earn a lot, but to be honest, money has never been a worry in my life, and for pretty much the entirety of my 20s i lived pay check to pay chekck.

    I don't have kids though...

    What do you actually do for work mate. In my limited years here I know a few guys here do a lot of travelling overseas for their work. I'm in my first year doing a Bachelor of Digital Media (Web/Game Design, Coding, Animation, Video Production/Editing). Not sure where to go when I'm finished. Also working full time for dirt cheap money.

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:09 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    I would add Turbo to that nearly list if he can get some consistency together... I think Ponga isn't quite 1 mil player but definitely close to it.

    Was reading up on DCE's contract before. Not only is DCE earning $1.3 million this season, every time the salary cap goes up, the Manly skipper’s deal goes up with it!

    Crunch the numbers and the DCE deal works out as 16.5 per cent of the Sea Eagles salary cap every season until 2023.

    I can’t believe Foran is on a mil a year… what a shocker by the dogs there

    If you could promise me the Foran that led Manly to consistent top 4 finishes and grand finals I'd take him at a million a year. Bloke was the best 5/8 in the comp and did all the other stuff you want from your club leader
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    Post by filthridden Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:10 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    What do you actually do for work mate. In my limited years here I know a few guys here do a lot of travelling overseas for their work. I'm in my first year doing a Bachelor of Digital Media (Web/Game Design, Coding, Animation, Video Production/Editing). Not sure where to go when I'm finished. Also working full time for dirt cheap money.


    If you don't know what someone on the forum does for work, the general rule is to just assume they're an accountant I believe Laughing

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