NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 56 - The one hour backflip

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

If you could promise me the Foran that led Manly to consistent top 4 finishes and grand finals I'd take him at a million a year. Bloke was the best 5/8 in the comp and did all the other stuff you want from your club leader

I wasn't that super into NRL at that point. Love the game and loved watching it but not to the point I knew every single player on the field... just all the Storm players

StormTrooper96 wrote:

What do you actually do for work mate. In my limited years here I know a few guys here do a lot of travelling overseas for their work. I'm in my first year doing a Bachelor of Digital Media (Web/Game Design, Coding, Animation, Video Production/Editing). Not sure where to go when I'm finished. Also working full time for dirt cheap money.

This isn't directed at me, but like most of the blokes around here I work in finance. In the AML/FEC space with one of the biggest non big 4 banks in Australia

filthridden wrote:

If you don't know what someone on the forum does for work, the general rule is to just assume they're an accountant I believe

THIS An accountant or a coder/IT for a company

StormTrooper96 wrote:

What do you actually do for work mate. In my limited years here I know a few guys here do a lot of travelling overseas for their work. I'm in my first year doing a Bachelor of Digital Media (Web/Game Design, Coding, Animation, Video Production/Editing). Not sure where to go when I'm finished. Also working full time for dirt cheap money.

Nothing terribly exciting - work in "IT" within datacentre/hosting/server industry. Worked around 12 years in what was essentially a small business, now that's over I am doing some real dull stuff on a government contract. Need to get out of here if I'm honest.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

This isn't directed at me, but like most of the blokes around here I work in finance. In the AML/FEC space with one of the biggest non big 4 banks in Australia

So you look for people trying to rip off banks (financial crime)

mattnz wrote:
Definitely want Crichton this week. Have a number of guys I want to trade out this week, Moses, Kerr, Hess and trading out Moses leaves me short of a back up half.

I'm dumping Hess too mate, so expect a big score. I was wary of running short on forward cover last week and that's why I got Hetherington. I was worrying for nothing and probably should have gotten Niu or something more useful. You can always gamble and run short for this week and look at a backup next week.

StormTrooper96 wrote:

So you look for people trying to rip off banks (financial crime)

Essentially yes. Financial & Economic Crime, Anti Money Laundering, Counter Terrorism Financing and Customer Identification/Verification is my day to day

StormTrooper96 wrote:

THIS An accountant or a coder/IT for a company

I also expect the average age here to be about 35??

easytiger wrote:

Let me reiterate:
NRL's salary cap laws state a player cannot be registered on a contract worth considerably less than his market value.

The market value is what the market is prepared to pay - which by all indications is about 1mil.
It doesn't matter one iota what I or you think is his fair value.
Maybe the NRL could have rules around what younger players can earn, but that would just enable Union and Superleague to have more potential to lure them with big paychecks.

So a club could offer 5m for a player so other clubs have to offer that as its now market value? Then they can pull the offer and he now has to sign elsewhere for 5m? Good tactics to fuck other teams salary caps up

rhinoceroo wrote:

But these are people who earn a regular salary for a long working life. Some sportspeople have to shoehorn 50 years of earning into a 10 year career... their "happiness" would diminish pretty quickly along with their capital.

I don't begrudge any player going for absolutely the highest salary possible. They're not fans, they're employees and professionals. Of course there are other considerations around location and competitiveness but Fifita doesn't owe the Broncos anything just because they've paid him to work for them for the last few years.

Absolutely agree
Your career is short, chase the big bucks while you can. I personally wouldn't say no to the 1.25 mil contract

filthridden wrote:All you lot talking about how money isn't everything sound like you've never had to worry about money.

Take the money, Fifi. Be stupid to turn down that kinda contract.

Would be different if he was at a title contender like Roosters or Storm, but at Broncos, staying for less money doesnt necessarily give him any better chance than at Titans.

rhinoceroo wrote:I don't begrudge any player going for absolutely the highest salary possible. They're not fans, they're employees and professionals. Of course there are other considerations around location and competitiveness but Fifita doesn't owe the Broncos anything just because they've paid him to work for them for the last few years.

I do agree with this.

StormTrooper96 wrote:

I would add Turbo to that nearly list if he can get some consistency together... I think Ponga isn't quite 1 mil player but definitely close to it.

Was reading up on DCE's contract before. Not only is DCE earning $1.3 million this season, every time the salary cap goes up, the Manly skipper’s deal goes up with it!

Crunch the numbers and the DCE deal works out as 16.5 per cent of the Sea Eagles salary cap every season until 2023.

I can’t believe Foran is on a mil a year… what a shocker by the dogs there

Yeah Foran had a really low salary at Warriors from memory

Mighty Fishes wrote:

So a club could offer 5m for a player so other have to offer that as its now market value? Then they can pull the offer and he now has to sign elsewhere for 5m? Good tactics to fuck other teams salary caps up

Market would be more than just what one club is prepared to offer. In the case of Fifita it's believed that at least 3 clubs have offered him ~1/mil per season.
I'd suggest that many more clubs would happily pay him over $700K (assuming the availability of cap space and a suitable upgrade to their 2RF stocks).
Clearly an example like 5mil would be taken by a player, and the club would be bankrupted (as well as not be able to stay under cap), so there wouldn't be any real benefit to phantom offers...

StormTrooper96 wrote:

THIS An accountant or a coder/IT for a company

Or a designer for a company hehe

StormTrooper96 wrote:

I understand what your saying... and I certainly think players take that into consideration, but I just don't think a 20 year old will be sitting there thinking I hope I don't have any issues that prevent me from ever playing footy again. Fifita is established in the NRL... he has made it... he is just worried about getting on the park and his next opponent.

anyways... back to fantasy.

I expect a different cowboys side tonight against a depleted Roosters squad. Cows at home and a bit of crowd behind them, don't chalk it up as an instant loss.

And my mate played for the All Blacks, he "made it". Where are the millions in career earnings he got from making it?

Oh wait.

I don't know how much involvement you've had in youth player development, but again there's a reason why there is an ongoing increased emphasis on ensuring players set themselves up for not only life after footy, but the prospect that footy does not work out. And this is increasingly emphasized in other sports, in other countries as well. Because players not thinking about the possibility that footy doesn't work, is simply burying their head in the sand to very real possibilities. You want players to be responsible enough to think about these possibilities and look after themselves as individuals. Saying "you'll make all this money anyway" it simply isn't true for some people, and we have enough examples to point to where this isn't some "myth".

Yow Yeh "made it", NRL, Origin, Kangaroos. Do you think he made enough money to sustain a good life during his time in footy?

Meanwhile Taumalolo literally guaranteed himself enough money that if he is smart, he never has to work a day in his life after footy, nor will his partner, nor will his parents, if they don't want to. And he knows he has enough money guaranteed that he can provide his family with everything they would need.

DCE is the same, he can play knowing if he snaps his leg, it doesn't matter from a financial perspective, he loses nothing. His family is good.

There's a reason so many players are "one and done" from college in the NBA, because the sooner they get to the NBA and start banking that money the better.

Derrick Rose did himself an incredible favour by banking a 10 year endorsement while he was on top of the world, next minute his knee is gone and he would have never been able to see anywhere near that amount of money again.

Likely heading into this week with the following:

Mann/Fui > Niu/Angus. 9 trades left 596k itb to target any guns next week

Grant
Haas(C) Rudolf
Lolo Angus Yeo
SJ Luai
Niu Wiliame (loop)
Teddy Papi Latrell

Koro Macca Carrigan Paix (loop)
Fermor Young Talau SCrichton

Targets would be a gun FRF (likely Mofo unless Taupau/Thompson show better value), HLF (hoping Moses/Munster drop more cash or just get DCE) and Ponga and I should be good. Maybe Macca to one of the top hookers (luxury trade)

Regulator wrote:
Yow Yeh "made it", NRL, Origin, Kangaroos. Do you think he made enough money to sustain a good life during his time in footy?

There's a reason so many players are "one and done" from college in the NBA, because the sooner they get to the NBA and start banking that money the better.

Derrick Rose did himself an incredible favour by banking a 10 year endorsement while he was on top of the world, next minute his knee is gone and he would have never been able to see anywhere near that amount of money again.

Fifita isn't banking a 10 year deal though, its a one year deal. The money is coming for him in 2022 if he stays at the Broncos, he knows that, and that's why its an extremely tough call.