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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 71 - zero trades left

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    Post by my tv broke Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:18 am

    Right. Think I might pull the trigger and get Tedesco. Can't shake the feeling that he is in for a big one in his 150th game tonight. Might also grab Moses for Fog, but I feel a little bit of sadness to sell Fog, he's been so good to me, love the way the little bloke plays too.

    Beyond this week I might consider Pearce to Dearden for half back up and ~300k, and upgrade RTS to hopefully anyone. Dearden should do most of the kicking with Milford out.

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:26 am

    my tv broke wrote:Right. Think I might pull the trigger and get Tedesco. Can't shake the feeling that he is in for a big one in his 150th game tonight. Might also grab Moses for Fog, but I feel a little bit of sadness to sell Fog, he's been so good to me, love the way the little bloke plays too.

    Beyond this week I might consider Pearce to Dearden for half back up and ~300k, and upgrade RTS to hopefully anyone. Dearden should do most of the kicking with Milford out.

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    Look at big shot here with 18 fit players
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:29 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Look at big shot here with 18 fit players


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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:32 am

    my tv broke wrote:


    Coffee :FrizelStop:

    Did you bring in RTS this week to cover Pappy?
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    Post by wolfking Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:34 am

    my tv broke wrote:Right. Think I might pull the trigger and get Tedesco. Can't shake the feeling that he is in for a big one in his 150th game tonight. Might also grab Moses for Fog, but I feel a little bit of sadness to sell Fog, he's been so good to me, love the way the little bloke plays too.

    Beyond this week I might consider Pearce to Dearden for half back up and ~300k, and upgrade RTS to hopefully anyone. Dearden should do most of the kicking with Milford out.

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    Looks good.

    What's your plan if Aubbs moves back to the bench soon?
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:38 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Did you bring in RTS this week to cover Pappy?

    Grabbing Teddy and Moses this week (at this stage), already had RTS.


    wolfking wrote:What's your plan if Aubbs moves back to the bench soon?

    Aubbs -> a centre that is playing in the NRL and is unlikely to get dropped. Knew it was likely when I bought him. Probably someone like Waqa Blake if there's a month to go. With any luck, eek a couple more weeks out of Aubbs, hopefully he is 500k+ by then, and there is some choice.
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    Post by L-Jimmy Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:44 am

    Morning all!

    Struggling with how to burn through my last 8 trades, assisted by a sweet stash of 12k

    Cook
    Haas Mofo
    Butcher Lolo Murray
    Cleary Hunt
    Avo McTyre
    Teddy Ponga Mitchell

    Carrigan Siro Luai Fog
    Grant Niu Paps Randall

    No desperate need to trade, but tempted to turn Luai/Fog into Munster or similar via Randall->Nuff.

    any thoughts? Ranked just inside 3k so risky ideas welcome.

    Fergo, Calker? Batman/Starling? TPJ? Jazz?
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    Post by Shady2K Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:47 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Grabbing Teddy and Moses this week (at this stage), already had RTS.




    Aubbs -> a centre that is playing in the NRL and is unlikely to get dropped. Knew it was likely when I bought him. Probably someone like Waqa Blake if there's a month to go. With any luck, eek a couple more weeks out of Aubbs, hopefully he is 500k+ by then, and there is some choice.

    Could coincide with a Capewell return mate if he gets his edge spot back
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:48 am


    Going on to "Floors" for players

    Obviously any player can get injured and have their score stuffed (either completely or partially depending on when the injury occurs) but most people tend to know floor isn't lowest possible score at all - but what sort of low score they might put up in an uninjured game where things otherwise go badly.

    But there is also a problem with just using scores so far to assume what a player's floor is.
    We are 12 rounds into a 20 round season.

    Using a similar approach to last year, I looked at players who played at least 20 games during the season. I looked at their lowest score in the first 14 rounds, and their lowest score for the season.
    In almost 40% of cases, players got their lowest score after round 14.
    So if you assume that holds true for other years, if you look at a players scoring so far - there is a greater than 1/3 chance that they haven't had their lowest score yet.

    On the flip side, 45% of players got their highest score in the back end of the season, so if my dodgy logic holds, there's a good chance that whoever you have hasn't hit their season high yet.

    Looking at a range of scores and getting the average and standard deviation is probably the way to go, and then realising that the floor and ceiling you come up with aren't hard and fast numbers with every score inside that range, but more of a guideline.
    Also Bethany has since confirmed "floor" is the wrong word for the figures she gave, but using a floor of 69 for Cleary is fraught with danger because he's gone under that in 50% of his games this year
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:49 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:Morning all!

    Struggling with how to burn through my last 8 trades, assisted by a sweet stash of 12k

    Cook
    Haas Mofo
    Butcher Lolo Murray
    Cleary Hunt
    Avo McTyre
    Teddy Ponga Mitchell

    Carrigan Siro Luai Fog
    Grant Niu Paps Randall

    No desperate need to trade, but tempted to turn Luai/Fog into Munster or similar via Randall->Nuff.

    any thoughts? Ranked just inside 3k so risky ideas welcome.

    Fergo, Calker? Batman/Starling? TPJ? Jazz?

    I'd be tempted not to trade since you need both Luai and Fog (or replacements) for scoring this week. Both are going pretty well of late.

    You already have two red dots (Niu and Randall) and I'd be hesitant to add another risky cash out.

    That said, and I mentioned him earlier, but I'd consider Dearden at 328k for half backup. Milford gone for a month, should up his kicking metres. Passes the eye test as well (solid little player), should keep that 7 jersey for the rest of the year.

    You can do:
    Fog -> D Fifita or Tevaga
    Luai ->  Dearden


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    Post by Milchcow Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:49 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Look at big shot here with 18 fit players

    Aubbs is so fit he surely counts as 2

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    Post by Milchcow Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:52 am


    Just replugging community team poll for this weeks trades
    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1434-rd-13-trades#437745

    Looks like we are pretty keen on Fogarty to Moses, and undecided on whether to ditch Young or hold the trade - so come have your vote counted
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:55 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:Morning all!

    Struggling with how to burn through my last 8 trades, assisted by a sweet stash of 12k

    Cook
    Haas Mofo
    Butcher Lolo Murray
    Cleary Hunt
    Avo McTyre
    Teddy Ponga Mitchell

    Carrigan Siro Luai Fog
    Grant Niu Paps Randall

    No desperate need to trade, but tempted to turn Luai/Fog into Munster or similar via Randall->Nuff.

    any thoughts? Ranked just inside 3k so risky ideas welcome.

    Fergo, Calker? Batman/Starling? TPJ? Jazz?

    If trades are burning a hole in your pocket you can go Fogarty to Luke Thompson in one hit.

    Upgrading either Fog/Luai to Moses/Munster is probably not a terrible move either
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    Post by Shady2K Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:57 am

    So my decision this week comes down to one of the below options:

    Option 1
    - Upgrade Fermor to anyone under 679k. Options as keepers would be Munster/Moses/Paulo/Fotuaika/Taupau... or anyone else really but those stood out.
    - Would get me 17 playing this week and run the year with 2 red dots (Wiliame/Niu)

    Option 2
    - Don't upgrade Fermor and hold the trade. Using trade leaves me with 2, holding leaves me with 3 trades
    - My bank would let me upgrade Rudolf next week to someone from 830k ish or lower. So someone like a Bateman if he drops in price/Twal/Matterson if fit/Fifita
    - Would run with 16 this week and cop it (act as if I had 17 but some backs had an off week)
    - Would run the year with 3 red dots (Fermor/Wiliame/Niu) and leaving 2 trades for injury after the Rudolf upgrade
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    Post by L-Jimmy Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:57 am

    That’s some great thinking - thanks MTB and Milch!
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:02 am

    Shady2K wrote:So my decision this week comes down to one of the below options:

    Option 1
    - Upgrade Fermor to anyone under 679k. Options as keepers would be Munster/Moses/Paulo/Fotuaika/Taupau... or anyone else really but those stood out.
    - Would get me 17 playing this week and run the year with 2 red dots (Wiliame/Niu)

    Option 2
    - Don't upgrade Fermor and hold the trade. Using trade leaves me with 2, holding leaves me with 3 trades
    - My bank would let me upgrade Rudolf next week to someone from 830k ish or lower. So someone like a Bateman if he drops in price/Twal/Matterson if fit/Fifita
    - Would run with 16 this week and cop it (act as if I had 17 but some backs had an off week)
    - Would run the year with 3 red dots (Fermor/Wiliame/Niu) and leaving 2 trades for injury after the Rudolf upgrade

    Without knowing the make up of your squad, I'd be pretty keen on option 1. Of those options you're still getting a season keeper and with any luck they bust out a few big games on the run home anyway. I like the idea of boom players over a short period like Munster/Moses/Taupau for the run home, any of those guys can put up a banner and really boost your rankings.

    I'm firmly in the camp that red dots will hurt down the track.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:05 am

    Shady2K wrote:So my decision this week comes down to one of the below options:

    Option 1
    - Upgrade Fermor to anyone under 679k. Options as keepers would be Munster/Moses/Paulo/Fotuaika/Taupau... or anyone else really but those stood out.
    - Would get me 17 playing this week and run the year with 2 red dots (Wiliame/Niu)

    Option 2
    - Don't upgrade Fermor and hold the trade. Using trade leaves me with 2, holding leaves me with 3 trades
    - My bank would let me upgrade Rudolf next week to someone from 830k ish or lower. So someone like a Bateman if he drops in price/Twal/Matterson if fit/Fifita
    - Would run with 16 this week and cop it (act as if I had 17 but some backs had an off week)
    - Would run the year with 3 red dots (Fermor/Wiliame/Niu) and leaving 2 trades for injury after the Rudolf upgrade

    With only 3 trades left and 3 red dots you absolutely cannot afford to trade out Rudolf while he is fit

    If you can wait until Sunday to see if Fermor plays. If he does you can bank both trades, if he doesn't you can trade to Moses
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    Post by Shady2K Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Without knowing the make up of your squad, I'd be pretty keen on option 1. Of those options you're still getting a season keeper and with any luck they bust out a few big games on the run home anyway.

    I'm firmly in the camp that red dots will hurt down the track.

    For this week, team is:

    McInnes
    Haas Taukeiaho
    Lolo Yeo Young
    SJ Munster
    Crichton Aubbo
    Teddy Ponga Talau

    Grant Carrigan Hunt Rudolf
    Pappy Fermor Wiliame Niu

    3 trades left, 333k. Already made 1 trade of Luai to Munster. Not sure of which option to take under 679k but leaning towards Moses
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 am

    Do we see Young's minutes continuing to slide, or reckon he's got that 45-55 minute Horsburgh role locked in?

    Would really help my team if he can keep up that crazy PPM...
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    Post by Loomer Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:08 am

    I've got FOMO for DCE this week and want him in final team but if get instead of Munster can't get Ponga 1 trade next week

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