NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 3 - Closer

Milchcow wrote:

Even using the plural 'games' is an overstatement.

He had a poor round 1 last year, and then got injured before half time in round 2.

Almost everything that made him a good pick still applies.
Main issue is that dogs have a bit of forward depth and not sure he has a long term starting spot (or even a short term one)

Take a few missed tackles off his first game from memory and he would have cracked a good score. Round 2 was a write off.

mattnz wrote:

We are working on the assumption that Tigers want a specialist fullback, why they have pushed hard to get Laurie early. Mbye just stepped down as captain and makes a great versatile 14 option on the bench. Covers the backs and hooker. The expectation would be Laurie fullback, Mbye 6 to fill in for round 1.

Hmm, interesting. Awesome if the assumption comes to fruition, but certainly not without risk to pick him up for round one. Obviously if that eventuates he'd be definite acquisition for round two, but pending anything concrete pre-round one, and considering his low price, he sounds like someone I'll be waiting for round two to consider.

But, interesting nevertheless. Thanks for the lowdown.

mattnz wrote:

We are working on the assumption that Tigers want a specialist fullback, why they have pushed hard to get Laurie early. Mbye just stepped down as captain and makes a great versatile 14 option on the bench. Covers the backs and hooker. The expectation would be Laurie fullback, Mbye 6 to fill in for round 1.

I still hope Madden gets 6 for Rd 1 and Mbye plays 14.

The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:
I still hope Madden gets 6 for Rd 1 and Mbye plays 14.

A spine of liddle brooks madden laurie is very inexperienced, id say mbye is in there for that reason

my tv broke wrote:

A spine of liddle brooks madden laurie is very inexperienced, id say mbye is in there for that reason

I don’t believe Mbye provides much at 6. He’d be better at 1. Madden would be GK in AD’s absence. Our spine is pretty shit and we are playing Canberra in Canberra. I don’t think it will matter much who plays where.

Teeth Eater wrote:Also, while I'm asking annoying questions that have probably been discussed at length already, what's the go with the lack of BE's pre round one lock out this year? I've only played a couple of years, but if I'm not mistaken we're always allowed the luxury of each player's BE before round one? But not this year.

If I'm honest it's not a big deal but it's always nice to have that info if it's there.

On footystatistics.com, just use the "priced at" figure.
it's the same thing as round 1 BE.

You can get a free month of coach on the Fantasy site, but you still need to sign up for it

Milchcow wrote:

On footystatistics.com, just use the "priced at" figure.
it's the same thing as round 1 BE.

You can get a free month of coach on the Fantasy site, but you still need to sign up for it

Ah, okay, cool. I see now. Thanks to you and thanks to MTB!

Interesting about the free month too... thanks for the tip.

Milchcow wrote:

Even using the plural 'games' is an overstatement.

He had a poor round 1 last year, and then got injured before half time in round 2.

Almost everything that made him a good pick still applies.
Main issue is that dogs have a bit of forward depth and not sure he has a long term starting spot (or even a short term one)

agreed mate, will be in my team if a fairly decent role is confirmed

easytiger wrote:Cronulla Sharks name emerging players trial team vs Dragons.
Possibly an early indicator of some players likely to be outside the core 17;
(Nene MacDonald, Teig Wilton, big Billy Magoulias etc)

Not that much to see here:

Nice to see a team list again

robelgordo wrote:Rabbits mate getting absolutely roasted here

Don't know about his mate but I've had roasted rabbit before and it tasted good.

Seems like to have an overall chance of finishing the year well you need close to a cookie cutter team to start the year. Make your moves later.
So how do I figure out what that cookie cutter team that is talked about is? I'm asking because I'm not sure this has been decided this year.

code delta wrote:Seems like to have an overall chance of finishing the year well you need close to a cookie cutter team to start the year. Make your moves later.
So how do I figure out what that cookie cutter team that is talked about is? I'm asking because I'm not sure this has been decided this year.

So many guns on here the cookie cutter is always the way to start. Got to get lucky with the guns you pick starting season better than other gun options like a Cleary/DCE/Moses debate to get a head start

Pick most the cows which are 80/90% already in the cookie cutter side, make the right decision on middies who explode to gun status and dump the duds early

code delta wrote:Seems like to have an overall chance of finishing the year well you need close to a cookie cutter team to start the year. Make your moves later.
So how do I figure out what that cookie cutter team that is talked about is? I'm asking because I'm not sure this has been decided this year.

Plenty of people have put their sides on this site. A lot are similar. Lots of value potentially in 2RF along with the Big 4. Cleary, Munster, Teddy, Paps etc. Cook /Grant at hooker. Centres are anyone’s guess.

code delta wrote:Seems like to have an overall chance of finishing the year well you need close to a cookie cutter team to start the year. Make your moves later.
So how do I figure out what that cookie cutter team that is talked about is? I'm asking because I'm not sure this has been decided this year.

So far mate I reckon this team will be include 80/90% of players that the majority of this forum start season with

GUN or JBrailey
Lodge/LAM, Gilbert (if starting edge), GUN (Lolo early front runner)
GUN, Riki/Blore
GUN, Lam/CHT/Brooks
Averillo, pick a middie
TTurbo, Moylan/Niu, Laurie or GUN

Watson
Riki/Blore
Liddle
Lodge/LAM
JBrailey if went GUN in Hooker
CTR/WFB cover
Half Cover
Edge cover

Welshy wrote:

So far mate I reckon this team will be include 80/90% of players that the majority of this forum start season with

GUN or JBrailey
Lodge/LAM, Gilbert (if starting edge), GUN (Lolo early front runner)
GUN, Riki/Blore
GUN, Lam/CHT/Brooks
Averillo, pick a middie
TTurbo, Moylan/Niu, Laurie or GUN

Watson
Riki/Blore
Liddle
Lodge/LAM
JBrailey if went GUN in Hooker
CTR/WFB cover
Half Cover
Edge cover

Just shows why I think there's not really a cookie cutter team this year.

Captain selection will also play into it.

Milchcow wrote:

Even using the plural 'games' is an overstatement.

He had a poor round 1 last year, and then got injured before half time in round 2.

Almost everything that made him a good pick still applies.
Main issue is that dogs have a bit of forward depth and not sure he has a long term starting spot (or even a short term one)

I think a big part of it was that he just looked terrible on the eye test last year - especially on attack. Racked up 32 lacklustre metres before being subbed off with ten to go in the first game.
Then an almost embarrassing 7 metres before being injured after about 30 minutes in the second.
Whether he was a bit underdone to start the season, who knows. Either way, probably still serviceable at basement price if he got a start (and at least we all have a clear picture on his floor).

Some good young edges coming through at the Dogs though - Doorey, Roumanos and Topine

Welshy wrote:

Reckon the ship has sailed, getting Matt to admit he is possibly incorrect will be a difficult quest

Bet thread located here:

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1349p680-nrl-fantasy-2020-part-33-if-stephen-crichton-gets-injured-this-week-i-m-going-to-cry?highlight=latrellxt

code delta wrote:Seems like to have an overall chance of finishing the year well you need close to a cookie cutter team to start the year. Make your moves later.
So how do I figure out what that cookie cutter team that is talked about is? I'm asking because I'm not sure this has been decided this year.

Pretty much every year imo. The key to the start of the season is to not fuck your year up. As long as you are in the mix after 4 or 5 rounds then you can start to make big moves mid season.

Important not to stress over 1 or 2 positions if the bulk of your squad is in good shape. You can carry a shitty player for a couple of weeks, rather than force trades that aren't entirely necessary. Obviously if a really good cow turns up you jump on, but you dont need to grab every one, and there will always be a new one next week or the week after.

On the flip side, sometimes you just need to take a risk and go with your gut... so.. my advice.. ahh.. have fun

Just going to post my latest draft to hopefully create discussion:

J Brailey
Taumololo (vc), Lodge, Watson
DFifita, Gilbert/Ford
Cleary (c), Lam
Kelly, Marsters
Tedesco, RTS, Trbojevic

Liddle, Kolomatangi, Davey, Riki

Blore, Averillo, Niu, DLaurie

My thoughts: Out of Hass, McInnes and Cleary for captain, Cleary is the one with the least question marks. Will also consider Munster and DCE as gun halves if GK.
Hard to leave out all of McInnes, Cook and Grant but hoping Brailey can score around 50. Watson, Liddle provide cover.
Taumololo seems like the no brainer gun pick as middle (better value than Haas). Also considered Angus and Harris, but ended up with David Fifita down in edge for cheaper.
Went with tackle breakers/offloaders with Kelly and Marsters (think he will bounce back this year with more ad-lib style footy played by Cowboys).
Fullbacks are guns, think RTS averages 55 this year in a better Warriors outfit.