NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 24 Give the feckin’ ball to Roberts mun’

Surprised the amount of people upset at not captaining Fifita, u captained someone else right ? So u got the regular score of Fifita, plus the double score of ur captain, not as great a difference as the cries make it sound.

Trades this week will be looking to be
Davey to walker
Welch to cleary

Bailey
Crichton AFB watson
Fifita rikki
Cleary munster
Reimis niu
Pappy RTS laurie

Turpin townsend schuster SOS

Liddle walker averillo stefan

Just need liddle and townsend to make some cash to get hass

sets wrote:Can we have a 'Mattnz v the people' containment thread?

Personally I dont think Matt should get attacked the way he does and the eventual pile up by the easily influenced sheep. But I know its the internet and a forum, Im just asking to be moved to a different area so it doesnt clog up this thread.

This forum was AMAZING (non-toxic) for a while, but all good things....

Post more.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Anyway here’s a question I’d like an opinion on.

Would you trade out Brimson and run Niu at WFB if you still had cover? Another HOK/MID could be useful. Would line up like this most weeks

Momo, Roberts, Reimis
Papy, Laurie, Niu, Reimis

Same here LB, I have Brimson and do u keep for the year especially since he has lost so much coin or bring in someone on the rise?

Revraiser wrote:Surprised the amount of people upset at not captaining Fifita, u captained someone else right ? So u got the regular score of Fifita, plus the double score of ur captain, not as great a difference as the cries make it sound.

I missed out on 38pts by C on Crichton. 6 of my scoring 17 scored 38pts or less. I was always going to C Crichton or Fifi

Mighty Fishes wrote:What’s the go with Brimson? 2 tries and 2 try assists and does crack 50? Fifita runs 6m then passes and is given 30 points.

Doesn’t make sense

Outside backs need TBs to get consistently high scores.

Tedesco is averaging 20 points a game from TBs. Brimson is averaging 3.

Welshy wrote:
Haas from this point I’d say. Too consistent in his big scores, Fifita is going to have some 40s when he plays teams who can tackle guys around the legs and go high on the huge hulking second rower

White Lightning wrote:

I'd say D. Fifita will edge it just because he'll play 80 mins & Haas won't. They are both equally damaging but the extra minutes gives an advantage to Fifita.

I cant split them on who scores better this season. Fifita in a better side with more go forward will help but it's Payne Haas who averages around 67.

Whoever it is i want both of them in my side come the end of year.

Loomer wrote:

I missed out on 38pts by C on Crichton. 6 of my scoring 17 scored 38pts or less. I was always going to C Crichton or Fifi

U might have a gun in ur side that the 1 week Fifita captainers don't have...

Tookey wrote:



I cant split them on who scores better this season. Fifita in a better side with more go forward will help but it's Payne Haas who averages around 67.

Whoever it is i want both of them in my side come the end of year.

No way Fifita averages 67. So if you could only have 1 in your side it would be Haas if you think he averages that. 

Haas is going to be a POD but he’s a mile above Fifitas cost currently

Revraiser wrote:

U might have a gun in ur side that the 1 week Fifita captainers don't have...

That's irrelevant to this week's round. I chose the wrong captain that resulted in loss of points equivalent to that which I'd be happy from around a 3rd of my scoring players

Milchcow wrote:

Outside backs need TBs to get consistently high scores.

Tedesco is averaging 20 points a game from TBs. Brimson is averaging 3.

TBs are overpowered in Fantasy, often turning a try into 14 points simply because defenders flop on the scorer late. A lot of the time, TBs don't actually influence the game

There should be tiers in the scoring of tries or ta's.... if u score 2 or 3 or 4 etc, there is additional points, like a triple double in Basketball. Not crying about missed points, just an idea.


Alvaro ??

Welshy wrote:
No way Fifita averages 67. So if you could only have 1 in your side it would be Haas if you think he averages that. 

Haas is going to be a POD but he’s a mile above Fifitas cost currently

Without illness and HIA rounds 1 and 2 Fifita would be averaging in the 80s so far.

Rapture_NRL wrote:
TBs are overpowered in Fantasy, often turning a try into 14 points simply because defenders flop on the scorer late. A lot of the time, TBs don't actually influence the game

In terms of fantasy they 100% influence the game mate 

Why someone like Fifita is goldust in second row, last defender but makes up for less tackles by doubling/tripling most edges TB count

Welshy wrote:
In terms of fantasy they 100% influence the game mate 

Why someone like Fifita is goldust in second row, last defender but makes up for less tackles by doubling/tripling most edges TB count

I mean IRL - they're gold in fantasy, but out of touch with reality to some extent

Welshy wrote:
For me that just goes to show the argument wasn’t valid in the first instance when the argument is so one sided. We ain’t friends piling into another kid on the yard, we are offering fantasy advice and it’s it’s viewed as bad then anyone can say surely?

TBH As far as I've seen, people just argue against a particular concept/theory about a player/role.
I can't recall anyone attacking Matt personally - if anything the odd reaction from Matt - but never anything over the top.

I like the diversity of thought Matt brings (even if often I don't agree), I argue when I strongly disagree, but that's also a sign of respect - if I didn't respect him I'd probably just skip over his threads.

Matt seems pretty good at looking after himself and rebutting an argument.
If he doesn't want honest feedback, then I think it's for him to say - and I for one would respect that too.

mattnz wrote:
Without illness and HIA rounds 1 and 2 Fifita would be averaging in the 80s so far.

3 games into the season mate. He’s scored 3 tries and had a just had an 11 TB game. Will not sustain that over the full season. Averages 25 tackles not enough to maintain a seasonal average of 67

Rapture_NRL wrote:
I mean IRL - they're gold in fantasy, but out of touch with reality to some extent

It's always surprised me that just slapsies going sideways or even sometimes backwards count. You'd think since these stats are used by the clubs they'd want them to be as useful as can be in terms of reflecting tackle breaks that actually result in a positive impact. I mean sometimes you see players push off 3 players but lose 10 metres.

I suppose it would become a very subjective stat though

easytiger wrote:

TBH As far as I've seen, people just argue against a particular concept/theory about a player/role.
I can't recall anyone attacking Matt personally - if anything the odd reaction from Matt - but never anything over the top.

I like the diversity of thought Matt brings (even if often I don't agree), I argue when I strongly disagree, but that's also a sign of respect - if I didn't respect him I'd probably just skip over his threads.

Matt seems pretty good at looking after himself and rebutting an argument.
If he doesn't want honest feedback, then I think it's for him to say - and I for one would respect that too.

Agree on this 100% 

It’s not at Matt it’s a debate on some of his calls. Any poster could suggest Player A averaging 15 points above his usual average and if I disagreed I’d be calling that out as well. 

Anyway done for me now, back to fantasy

Rapture_NRL wrote:
I mean IRL - they're gold in fantasy, but out of touch with reality to some extent

TBs have been over-valued for years.
But, everyone enjoys their TB-racking players - I remember before TBs were introduced and Fantasy wasn't as entertaining - they don't reflect reality but they do make the game enjoyable (especially when you have a Tedesco, Fifita, Cotric go on a TB-bender).

At the end of the day, part of Fantasy is looking at what Fantasy-rewarding attributes a player brings.
For example; When healthy, Turbo is probably as influential a Fullback at Tedesco, but he doesn't rack up the TB's in the same way, so will never be as good as a fantasy player.