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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 54 - Flippity Floppity Boo

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    Post by wolfking Thu May 20, 2021 12:09 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:Still tossing up Simpkin -> Starling vs Stefano -> Koro.

    Getting Starling first makes sense given BEs and all, but I still can't help but think going backwards in terms of R13 numbers isn't the play. Then again, no guarantee Simpkin plays at all, and Stefano surely comes back at some point, so it probably works out the same either way?

    If I go through with that, it leaves me with:

    Brailey
    Tohu Crichton Watson
    Lucy Matto
    Cleary Moses
    Avo Kelly
    Ted Laurie Walsh

    Fog Starling Walker Schuster

    Stefano Roberts Leniu Pap

    20 trades, 101k

    In an ideal world, Stefano, Roberts, and Leniu find their way back in, and Schuster, Walker, Walsh & maybe Crichton make way for R13 players for 14-15 playing the first bye.

    Is that a reasonable plan, or just get the better JS, R13 gun while you can?

    I was gunning for round 13 too but ended up trading both Stefan and Simpkin to get Starling. There's no point holding out for a potential 30 points from both in round 13 when Starling and Koro in your case could net 50 points each now. Starling is a great price and it's not worth holding out on potentially a couple of extra points in round 13. Those points aren't even garunteed also as neither are in the 17 again as you know. Why take 2 steps back now when you could possibly only take 1 step forward again in round 13.
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    Post by wolfking Thu May 20, 2021 12:11 pm

    Kris is interesting. Haven't given much thought to him at all. Scores are pretty erratic and what about Croker?
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    Post by wolfking Thu May 20, 2021 12:12 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:I think I might buy Harper he seems to be first choice Manly centre now. Then I can play Peachey in my mids when he’s back.

    In fact no I won’t I’ll get S. Crichton he is avg 35 more running metres a game and his try scoring is a bit down on last year so I think that’ll pick up and he’s avg is around 40 and Penrith won’t lose many games at all and he has valuable DPP and an extra round 13 number. Gives me 10 round 13 players now which is much better.

    Means I miss Starling but it is what it is for now can always get him after round 13 if he keeps killing it.

    Pap to Hughes I may as well take the risk.

    I will get Pap back in later.

    I liked your Harper pick a lot but Crichton is good too.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu May 20, 2021 12:12 pm

    robelgordo wrote:

    If you went 2 of Peachey/Averillo/Bird from the start you’ve done as well as you would have in any position IMO. It just feels worse when they have a 1-2 week out, compared to Cleary/Papy/Fifita/Harris etc who are easier to either hold or trade depending on setup when they have missed games

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    Except Bird and Averillo missed the same week, and almost every popular replacement for them has subsequently got injured/suspended/dropped.

    Anyone that went PODdy with Opacic or Crichton or whatever has done quite well.

    Requiring all this CTR trade is a result of bad luck, not bad fantasy trading.

    I just need to follow the good avice and trade in the guys who don't get injured
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    Post by Blinky Thu May 20, 2021 12:18 pm

    If I can already field 17, should I just keep Pap? Or should I bring in a r13 gun that will help improve my scoring? Currently on 20 trades.

    Main worry atm is that he could possibly be out for the next 3.
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    Post by Mulvy Thu May 20, 2021 12:23 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:Still tossing up Simpkin -> Starling vs Stefano -> Koro.

    Getting Starling first makes sense given BEs and all, but I still can't help but think going backwards in terms of R13 numbers isn't the play. Then again, no guarantee Simpkin plays at all, and Stefano surely comes back at some point, so it probably works out the same either way?

    If I go through with that, it leaves me with:

    Brailey
    Tohu Crichton Watson
    Lucy Matto
    Cleary Moses
    Avo Kelly
    Ted Laurie Walsh

    Fog Starling Walker Schuster

    Stefano Roberts Leniu Pap

    20 trades, 101k

    In an ideal world, Stefano, Roberts, and Leniu find their way back in, and Schuster, Walker, Walsh & maybe Crichton make way for R13 players for 14-15 playing the first bye.

    Is that a reasonable plan, or just get the better JS, R13 gun while you can?

    As you say, if all those guys play and/or you trade Crichton and one of Walker/Schuster you've got plenty for rd13 and can get Koro then (which also guards against an origin call up if Cook goes down for whatever reason). I'm not making a judgement on Starling, I'm 50/50 myself, but if you want him I think you can justify it with your rd13 setup, and remember he does play rd 17. Koro's price shouldn't become out of reach either.
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    Post by sgdragons10 Thu May 20, 2021 12:25 pm

    Why Hopoate or Seb kris over cotric? Cotric will never get dropped and has the highest Avg and has a lower BE Than Hopoate and 1 higher than Kris?
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu May 20, 2021 12:25 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    I was gunning for round 13 too but ended up trading both Stefan and Simpkin to get Starling.  There's no point holding out for a potential 30 points from both in round 13 when Starling and Koro in your case could net 50 points each now.  Starling is a great price and it's not worth holding out on potentially a couple of extra points in round 13.  Those points aren't even garunteed also as neither are in the 17 again as you know.  Why take 2 steps back now when you could possibly only take 1 step forward again in round 13.

    Yeah well said. Quality over quantity for R13, better to have 13 solid scorers than 15 with Simpkin getting 20 off the bench and Leniu getting 1 stint for 22.

    Think I'll lock in Starling. Koro + another gun should still be in reach with Walker, Schuster, Walsh to go in R13.
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    Post by Mr Snrub Thu May 20, 2021 12:26 pm

    Blinky wrote:If I can already field 17, should I just keep Pap? Or should I bring in a r13 gun that will help improve my scoring? Currently on 20 trades.

    Main worry atm is that he could possibly be out for the next 3.

    You've got 20 trades which is more than most I'd say. Could be value in going for a R13 gun and getting a boost in overall points.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu May 20, 2021 12:27 pm

    FUCK! It's Thursday and I haven't even looked at my team! I guess Cows and Knights aren't in any of my plans so can wait until tomorrow
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    Post by Papadontbleach Thu May 20, 2021 12:28 pm

    wolfking wrote:Kris is interesting.  Haven't given much thought to him at all.  Scores are pretty erratic and what about Croker?

    Croker Out indefinitely, although I suspect it is a transition to retirement, we don’t want to drop the Captain thing. I’m not the only one who thinks this but with anything there is no guarantee.

    Kris would win the spot on form. He would also be an excellent utility on the bench.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu May 20, 2021 12:28 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:FUCK! It's Thursday and I haven't even looked at my team! I guess Cows and Knights aren't in any of my plans so can wait until tomorrow

    No interest in Null Null ?
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    Post by Fortitude Thu May 20, 2021 12:30 pm

    Mr Snrub wrote:

    You've got 20 trades which is more than most I'd say. Could be value in going for a R13 gun and getting a boost in overall points.

    IM in exactly the same position. Have 19 players to choose from, all of which id happily have in my 17 for this week. Pap to someone like Hughes, Mahoney, To'o, Fog feels like bit of a luxury, given i dont really want them in my final 17, they aren't going to make bulk coin whislt Pap is out. Ive got 19 trades, an im leaning towards holding, just because he will be in my 17, and i dont want to smash trades for the sake of points for round.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu May 20, 2021 12:32 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    No interest in Null Null ?

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    Post by Aardvark Thu May 20, 2021 12:33 pm

    Thought I was saving a trade last week when in actual fact I was setting myself up to play with 16 this week rendeer
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    Post by Mulvy Thu May 20, 2021 12:34 pm

    Blinky wrote:If I can already field 17, should I just keep Pap? Or should I bring in a r13 gun that will help improve my scoring? Currently on 20 trades.

    Main worry atm is that he could possibly be out for the next 3.

    Need a bit of a crystal ball for that one. He'll most likely play next week. Origin? No one knows. 1st game back from injury, he might play rd13 for the Storm and carve up. If you can field 17, holding could be a masterstroke. But yeah if he plays origin will miss at least 3 of the next 7, potentially more. Gut call pick that one. If you're chasing, I'd probably hold, if he plays rd13 and puts up a banner anytime in the next six weeks, you're catching out people like me who sold him a couple of weeks ago.
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    Post by Goodnight Kiwi Thu May 20, 2021 12:37 pm

    For those who care about the movements for the Goodnight Kiwis who are;
    1st in League 7 and 21st Fanatics Overall League (Wolfy I'm looking at you)....

    Papy --> Matterson
    Simonsson --> Olam
    20 trade remaining, 62k itb
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    Post by wolfking Thu May 20, 2021 12:40 pm

    Goodnight Kiwi wrote:For those who care about the movements for the Goodnight Kiwis who are;
    1st in League 7 and 21st Fanatics Overall League (Wolfy I'm looking at you)....

    Papy --> Matterson
    Simonsson --> Olam
    20 trade remaining, 62k itb

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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu May 20, 2021 12:41 pm

    Not really fantasy relevant anymore, but what has Niu done to not be able to crack that Broncos backline?

    Must have kicked Kevvie's dog, because outside of Isaako and Coates that looks reserve grade quality on paper. You'd have to think Arthars, Copely, Mead, Gamble, Kelly struggle to get a regular first-grade gig at any other club.
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    Post by ynot Thu May 20, 2021 12:43 pm

    sgdragons10 wrote:Why Hopoate or Seb kris over cotric? Cotric will never get dropped and has the highest Avg and has a lower BE Than Hopoate and 1 higher than Kris?

    I would guess base stats, Kris has ~24 points in base (MG + TB + TCK - MT) at CTR on average, Hopoate has ~29 in base at CTR this season and Cotric has ~21 at WFB this season.

    Kris does get a nice uptick from the Raiders better attack, something around +5, but has a tough draw the next two weeks and no concrete info on Croker.


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