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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:41 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I'd say assertive trading Very Happy.

    I want to try and put myself in the mix to win something, even if it's just some KFC. I'd rather give myself a chance and hope for some luck, than play it safe and hope that others' bad luck moves me forward. HB mentioned this with regards to the guy in first. I've heard VK mention it previously too and it's how I see it too. The plan is revised weekly (hourly if I'm honest) and all going well after rd19/20 I'll be down to 3 trades, but the plan is to have a solid 21.

    The risk is over-doing it, I'm in a reasonable position. Last year I squandered a good position with a couple of awful trades and don't want to repeat it. But I'm still a few hundred points away, I think I need to go reasonably hard at rd17. I could trade six of those guys save a couple of trades and have a couple less for rd17. I could make nine trades and go even harder. Hard to work out a balance. I think with some luck and a fully balanced 21, 3 trades might be enough for the run home. A lot of these decision will be made in a few weeks anyway, but it's good to have an overarching strategy.

    To win the whole thing you need a bunch of luck to go your way. If I was in your position I'd be max trading for round 17 and running home on fumes praying to get lucky with injuries/suspensions. You might flame out and end up coming 700th or you might have the dice roll your way and win the whole thing
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:45 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    To win the whole thing you need a bunch of luck to go your way. If I was in your position I'd be max trading for round 17 and running home on fumes praying to get lucky with injuries/suspensions. You might flame out and end up coming 700th or you might have the dice roll your way and win the whole thing

    Isn't anything wrong with going hard if it gets you to the top. In 2019 when i was 1st/2nd for quite a while, I had one trade left with about 8 rounds to go. Used the last trade on RTS to PONGA out of fear with 5 weeks left and Ponga absolutely shat the bed and then missed the last couple of weeks. Hung on to claim 5th even though my team was on fumes. Still dirty on Cleary's 4 try 120 in the last round which catapulted some bloke past me.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:46 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I'd say assertive trading Very Happy.

    I want to try and put myself in the mix to win something, even if it's just some KFC. I'd rather give myself a chance and hope for some luck, than play it safe and hope that others' bad luck moves me forward. HB mentioned this with regards to the guy in first. I've heard VK mention it previously too and it's how I see it too. The plan is revised weekly (hourly if I'm honest) and all going well after rd19/20 I'll be down to 3 trades, but the plan is to have a solid 21.

    The risk is over-doing it, I'm in a reasonable position. Last year I squandered a good position with a couple of awful trades and don't want to repeat it. But I'm still a few hundred points away, I think I need to go reasonably hard at rd17. I could trade six of those guys save a couple of trades and have a couple less for rd17. I could make nine trades and go even harder. Hard to work out a balance. I think with some luck and a fully balanced 21, 3 trades might be enough for the run home. A lot of these decision will be made in a few weeks anyway, but it's good to have an overarching strategy.

    Yeah I hear ya mate. You're in a great position and been there before, so should definitely back your gut and not die wondering.

    Of the 3 I mentioned I'd keep, 2 are dealing with injury, so plans could change pretty quickly. My thing with Brailey is that ignoring Cleary, he's been in the mix as a legit captain option most of the season and I find it difficult to go without anyone in that conversation.
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    Post by The Bludger Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:01 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I'd say assertive trading Very Happy.

    I want to try and put myself in the mix to win something, even if it's just some KFC. I'd rather give myself a chance and hope for some luck, than play it safe and hope that others' bad luck moves me forward. HB mentioned this with regards to the guy in first. I've heard VK mention it previously too and it's how I see it too. The plan is revised weekly (hourly if I'm honest) and all going well after rd19/20 I'll be down to 3 trades, but the plan is to have a solid 21.

    The risk is over-doing it, I'm in a reasonable position. Last year I squandered a good position with a couple of awful trades and don't want to repeat it. But I'm still a few hundred points away, I think I need to go reasonably hard at rd17. I could trade six of those guys save a couple of trades and have a couple less for rd17. I could make nine trades and go even harder. Hard to work out a balance. I think with some luck and a fully balanced 21, 3 trades might be enough for the run home. A lot of these decision will be made in a few weeks anyway, but it's good to have an overarching strategy.

    I say go for it - it's Fantasy Footy, not sheep stations.
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    Post by ynot Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:03 am

    easytiger wrote:

    That would be brilliant!
    Thank you

    Here is the breakdown for RD 13:





    Top nAverage Trades LeftAverage Team ValueAverage BankAverage Salary Cap (Team + Bank)
    101213.59m201k13.79m
    1001313.53m167k13.7m
    100013.313.43m155k13.5m
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:06 am

    WT Winfield wrote:


    Of the 3 I mentioned I'd keep, 2 are dealing with injury, so plans could change pretty quickly. My thing with Brailey is that ignoring Cleary, he's been in the mix as a legit captain option most of the season and I find it difficult to go without anyone in that conversation.

    Yeah I agree, it's a tough call, it's why I'm putting so much thought into the overall strategy to determine if I can even consider it. To start the season, Brailey was cash cow pure and simple. When I started my bye planning six weeks ago, I'd elevated him to keeper. Now unsure. I can see this question being a large differentiator among teams particularly because this decision probably needs to be made this week.
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    Post by Welsh Mafia Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:08 am

    ynot wrote:

    I agree with this.

    Just ran some numbers: when Ash/Fog play together Taylor takes away about 11% of Fogarty's kick metres which equates to about 60m per game or 3 fantasy points. So it's not massive.

    Fogarty's kicking numbers have dropped off quite a bit over the last few weeks though, maybe a niggle?

    Here's an ugly chart. (green = Fog, red = Ash, blue = Boyd, Total kicking metres in the label)

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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:23 am

    ynot wrote:

    I agree with this.

    Just ran some numbers: when Ash/Fog play together Taylor takes away about 11% of Fogarty's kick metres which equates to about 60m per game or 3 fantasy points. So it's not massive.

    Fogarty's kicking numbers have dropped off quite a bit over the last few weeks though, maybe a niggle?

    Here's an ugly chart. (green = Fog, red = Ash, blue = Boyd, Total kicking metres in the label)

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    I was just looking at this without the sexy chart, because Fog + Boyd = good, Fog + Taylor = bad, seemed too simple to me. In R12 the Titans didn't kick much at all, so we basically have one match (R13) where things are weird. Not really keen to sell without a second data point at least.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:24 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Hung on to claim 5th even though my team was on fumes. Still dirty on Cleary's 4 try 120 in the last round which catapulted some bloke past me.

    I remember that, was my best finish also at about 126th. One of my key learnings from 2019 was to have a set and forget captain. It was the first year I tried captaincy roulette. My captains scored 942 in the first eleven rounds vs Cook who scored 1484. Now it's obviously more complicated, but those extra points would have had me finishing 5th, just ahead of you Very Happy
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    Post by Mr Snrub Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:25 am

    I paid 410k for Brailey and I didn't use a trade on him since he was there from the start. He's a green dot and while his recent scores aren't keeper level, they're not terrible. I'll conserve the trade.

    Fogarty a bit more concerning for me but as a green dot same thing, I'll keep him for now. If he continues tanking there's still good R17 options that won't be out of price range like Taumalolo I could trade him to.
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    Post by mrbrownstone Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:26 am

    If you were going to trade one, Fog over Moses right?

    Moses with a more proven history of gunning it.

    Will probably keep both another week anyway.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:27 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    I was just looking at this without the sexy chart, because Fog + Boyd = good, Fog + Taylor = bad, seemed too simple to me. In R12 the Titans didn't kick much at all, so we basically have one match (R13) where things are weird. Not really keen to sell without a second data point at least.

    Yeah I'm likely to hold this week at least. I'd like to give Moses and Fogarty until rd17 ideally where they can become Arey and SJ if they are not up to scratch.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:28 am

    Out of Brailey, Fog, Moses and IPap, I think IPap is my biggest concern of the week.  I reckon he's starting to feel the effects of regular NRL like Brailey but not playing 80 minutes now seems like a massive Achilles heel the way he's going. Tempted to trade him.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:39 am

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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:40 am

    Should i??

    Brailey and Fog to Cleary and Chambers / Jones
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:41 am

    Fog is a bit like Brailey imo. Team is going shithouse and the scores are reflecting that.

    Yes Fog kicked more with Boyd there, but Fog generally scores well if the Titans are going well.

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    Post by mrbrownstone Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:44 am

    wolfking wrote:Out of Brailey, Fog, Moses and IPap, I think IPap is my biggest concern of the week.  I reckon he's starting to feel the effects of regular NRL like Brailey but not playing 80 minutes now seems like a massive Achilles heel the way he's going.  Tempted to trade him.

    I guess that's always the dilemma when increased scoring comes from good form, not a change in role.

    Personally I still reckon he plays big minutes more often than not when the Eels aren't winning by 40+, which is most weeks.

    Like those considering trading Brailey, trading out the second-best averaging MID is a risky move, but one that could pay off big time.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:44 am

    Can't wait for Pappy to not be named again today :pinocchio:
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    Post by mrbrownstone Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:47 am

    my tv broke wrote:Fog is a bit like Brailey imo. Team is going shithouse and the scores are reflecting that.

    Yes Fog kicked more with Boyd there, but Fog generally scores well if the Titans are going well.


    I heard a rumour on the Talking League podcast that Brailey has a hand injury that is hampering him. Could be totally made up, but obviously most are playing with some kind of injury at this point. It would make sense if true, I posted it the other day, but from rounds 1-10 he missed 12 tackles, last 3 rounds he's missed 15.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:50 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:

    I heard a rumour on the Talking League podcast that Brailey has a hand injury that is hampering him. Could be totally made up, but obviously most are playing with some kind of injury at this point. It would make sense if true, I posted it the other day, but from rounds 1-10 he missed 12 tackles, last 3 rounds he's missed 15.

    Yeah that's why I'm thinking with at least one, probably both of Pearce and Ponga back soon, the Knights will actually have some leadership and direction soon. They've looked like a bunch of headless chooks the last few rounds.

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