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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:39 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:Oh and salary cap is 9.4mil Wolfie and magic number seems to be around 12452

    Legend.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:40 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    Yeah, Nofo's price does interest me.  I'll see how drafts play out.

    I'll have Coates too.  Cotric too interests me being back at the Raiders.
    As I said a bit earlier avg 5 tackle breaks a game so before he’d have got 15 points whereas under the new scoring he would only get avg of 10 points a game from that. So yeah makes him not quite as appealing.

    I am really interested in S. Crichton as we all are priced at 350k I think they forgot to put a 4 in front over the 3 lol. Penisini im really keen on too. Plenty of value in the backs and at centre.
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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:41 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    As I said a bit earlier avg 5 tackle breaks a game so before he’d have got 15 points whereas under the new scoring he would only get avg of 10 points a game from that. So yeah makes him not quite as appealing.

    I am really interested in S. Crichton as we all are priced at 350k I think they forgot to put a 4 in front over the 3 lol. Penisini im really keen on too. Plenty of value in the backs and at centre.

    Forgot about Crichton, he's a no brainer. Looks like Nofo and Cotric will have to miss out.
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    Post by mattnz Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:43 pm

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    Forgot about Crichton, he's a no brainer.  Looks like Nofo and Cotric will have to miss out.

    You had Nofo last season right?

    Surprised that you didnt want him this season.

    Was his main issue last year that Douehi is a ball hog so he didn't get many attacking chances?
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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:03 pm

    I've had a quick squizz at the app and player pricings.  Have also skimmed through a lot of the discussion already.  Seems I agree with most but he's some thoughts on a lot of the current players;

    Cleary - Obviously depending on when he is fit to start with determine a lot, but I don't see Cleary not being my first player picked.  I haven't played with any drafts but seems like you're setting yourself up for heartache not starting with Cleary.

    TPJ - I don't know what's not to like here.  Tricky position of mid and a player that offloads for fun and will be a big focal point of the teams attack.  Lock him in.

    Pappy - Again, the price point makes him hard to ignore.  We've seen what he can do at full fitness.  Hynes and Ponga are cheaper and Hynes could be interesting and can see why people would choose him.  Ponga losing some point for TB's and a struggling Knights team.  Between the three, I think Pappy wins.

    Burton - This could go either way.  Kick metre changes hurts but again, he'll be a major part of their playmaking.  I said it could go either way, but he got a banner last year.  Yes, he's in a shit team now, but under 600K, it's going to be hard for me to leave him out.

    Aitken - If he's cemented a second row position, again, going to be hard to leave him out.  Even looks value in the EDG position.

    Coates - Melbourne winger, 330K, yep.

    Tago - Starting centre, 334K.  I liked what I saw of this kid from his limited time last year, lock him in the centres.

    Crichton - Yeah, underpriced, perfect price point for his potential output.

    Randall - No brainer.

    Mann - 472K and you'd think he'll be a major part of the team makeup.  The rumor of starting 13 is nice, but even from the bench, we saw what Watson did last year.  Mann is a little similar IMO in his style, but is so versitile and will probably spell Randall also so lots to like here.  There's risk for the price, but I'll try and fit him in.

    Clark - I like this guy as a player.  Starting hooker but yeah, he's not fantasy gold.  Tricky price point but could be a decent, playable option out of the gates.

    Dunster - Liked the cut of his job.  Sub 300K, what's not to like here?

    Nanai - If he gets a starting spot, he's almost a must have.  Again, looked pretty good at the end of last year.

    James - Dunno, not sold on him, but the position looks to be difficult.

    Uto - Mini Haas maybe?  Looks like an okay punt but could easily go either way here.

    Ilias - Sub 300K half with not much else on offer, yeah.


    A couple of smokies I'm looking at;

    Nofo - Matt makes a great point with Doueihi out and I thought he was closer to 500K but 455K makes him mighty tempting. There's probably just more value with others.

    SJ - That's a risk and a half but back home, and only 544K.  Probably backfires but you couldn't knock anyone for punting on him.

    Cotric - I still like him back at the Raiders.  His price is excellent for his output.  The TB change doesn't really put me off him, but as I said above, maybe better options in the backs available.

    My big smokey who I'll probably start with if he starts second row;

    Fermor - Proctor is shit and I love the look of this kid.  Really quite keen to start with him given he gets the starting gig.


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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:04 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    You had Nofo last season right?

    Surprised that you didnt want him this season.

    Was his main issue last year that Douehi is a ball hog so he didn't get many attacking chances?

    It was the year before I had Nofo.......I think.

    Yeah, you make a good point with Doueihi out actually. He'll get much more ball. I'll add him to the list.
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:33 pm

    They also took the captaincy off Proctor & gave it to Tino.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:45 pm

    wolfking wrote:I've had a quick squizz at the app and player pricings.  Have also skimmed through a lot of the discussion already.  Seems I agree with most but he's some thoughts on a lot of the current players;

    Cleary - Obviously depending on when he is fit to start with determine a lot, but I don't see Cleary not being my first player picked.  I haven't played with any drafts but seems like you're setting yourself up for heartache not starting with Cleary.

    TPJ - I don't know what's not to like here.  Tricky position of mid and a player that offloads for fun and will be a big focal point of the teams attack.  Lock him in.

    Pappy - Again, the price point makes him hard to ignore.  We've seen what he can do at full fitness.  Hynes and Ponga are cheaper and Hynes could be interesting and can see why people would choose him.  Ponga losing some point for TB's and a struggling Knights team.  Between the three, I think Pappy wins.

    Burton - This could go either way.  Kick metre changes hurts but again, he'll be a major part of their playmaking.  I said it could go either way, but he got a banner last year.  Yes, he's in a shit team now, but under 600K, it's going to be hard for me to leave him out.

    Aitken - If he's cemented a second row position, again, going to be hard to leave him out.  Even looks value in the EDG position.

    Coates - Melbourne winger, 330K, yep.

    Tago - Starting centre, 334K.  I liked what I saw of this kid from his limited time last year, lock him in the centres.

    Crichton - Yeah, underpriced, perfect price point for his potential output.

    Randall - No brainer.

    Mann - 472K and you'd think he'll be a major part of the team makeup.  The rumor of starting 13 is nice, but even from the bench, we saw what Watson did last year.  Mann is a little similar IMO in his style, but is so versitile and will probably spell Randall also so lots to like here.  There's risk for the price, but I'll try and fit him in.

    Clark - I like this guy as a player.  Starting hooker but yeah, he's not fantasy gold.  Tricky price point but could be a decent, playable option out of the gates.

    Dunster - Liked the cut of his job.  Sub 300K, what's not to like here?

    Nanai - If he gets a starting spot, he's almost a must have.  Again, looked pretty good at the end of last year.

    James - Dunno, not sold on him, but the position looks to be difficult.

    Uto - Mini Haas maybe?  Looks like an okay punt but could easily go either way here.

    Ilias - Sub 300K half with not much else on offer, yeah.


    A couple of smokies I'm looking at;

    Nofo - Matt makes a great point with Doueihi out and I thought he was closer to 500K but 455K makes him mighty tempting.  There's probably just more value with others.

    SJ - That's a risk and a half but back home, and only 544K.  Probably backfires but you couldn't knock anyone for punting on him.

    Cotric - I still like him back at the Raiders.  His price is excellent for his output.  The TB change doesn't really put me off him, but as I said above, maybe better options in the backs available.

    My big smokey who I'll probably start with if he starts second row;

    Fermor - Proctor is shit and I love the look of this kid.  Really quite keen to start with him given he gets the starting gig.

    Love the fermor pick, also a big fan of him and currently have him starting for me as well
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    Post by Lchy Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:49 pm

    Fermor is a guy I love watching play, just not sure if the stats back him up as a fantasy pick priced at 36. Also with Peachey gone, would he be the guy to carry the burden of being moved to centre if a back gets injured mid game?
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:52 pm

    robelgordo wrote:

    Hold up, hold up

    it was a hit and run, but he just went up the kerb into a fence then fled the scene. You make it sound like he’s mowed someone down

    Fled due to the unlicensed bit. Obviously an idiot for driving and then running, but he’s likely a P-plater where one speeding ticket can see you have or suspended. And he wasn’t drunk. So not necessarily a serial offender just a kid that panicked.

    The worst part for me is he was driving his teammates to Maccas - I think that’s where a smart club with a good culture of success just wouldn’t let that situation arise. Like I reckon Bennett or Bellamy knows who can and can’t drive at their club  and there’s enough experienced players to make sure that doesn’t happen.
    Like Melbourne?
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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:54 pm

    Lchy wrote:Fermor is a guy I love watching play, just not sure if the stats back him up as a fantasy pick priced at 36. Also with Peachey gone, would he be the guy to carry the burden of being moved to centre if a back gets injured mid game?

    That's a good point. Just feel it could be his breakout year.
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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:54 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:

    Love the fermor pick, also a big fan of him and currently have him starting for me as well

    Nice mate.
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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:18 pm

    Nice list Wolfie. I have about 80% of those named in my current draft. I guess it's the 20% of gut picks and smokeys that will make the point of difference between teams.
    I've listened to some of the podcasts (OTL, fantasy amateurs) and there are a few players that they are not so keen on. It's interesting hearing the different opinions.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:47 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    Forgot about Crichton, he's a no brainer.  Looks like Nofo and Cotric will have to miss out.

    Rocco Berry another one to look at should play outside SJ and 358k DPP.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:03 am

    wolfking wrote:

    That's a good point.  Just feel it could be his breakout year.
    Might just see around 60mins too if Proctor is on the bench.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:41 am

    To keep Cleary Teddy probably has to go. Already have Papps, so who is the best option to downgrade to? Not really interested in Hynes.
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    Post by Lemmy KGB Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:57 am

    I'm locking Hynes in
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:51 am


    At Nofo's fantasy peak, he got most of his points making runs out of dummy half. Doesn't do that as much any more - his average running metres have dropped off heaps over the past few years and I think that has more of an impact than whether the 6 passes him the ball or not
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:58 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Eels have a good draw though all I’d need is a few tries from Dunster priced at 24 to make some solid coin I could see him avg 31-32. They have a good draw too.

    Even over a 6-8 game run if he could avg close to 33-35 that’s all I’d need.

    Dunster is like Cody Ramsey/Charlie Staines/Corey Allan. They are priced below 300k because they score below 300k
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:04 am

    mattnz wrote:

    You had Nofo last season right?

    Surprised that you didnt want him this season.

    Was his main issue last year that Douehi is a ball hog so he didn't get many attacking chances?

    2020 Tigers were by far the highest scoring bottom 8 team with 440 points total. That was 60 points more than any other bottom 8 team (let's call it 12 tries to account for goal kicking). They even outscored some top 8 teams in Parra and Knights + got within 5 points of Canberra.

    2021 Tigers were within 55 points of all bottom 8 teams except the Bulldogs. They were outscored by all but 1 top 8 team.

    To put it simply they didn't score as many points comparitively to the rest of the field

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