Fantasy Fantasy rule changes

After receiving some excellent suggestions from @easytiger  I have made some changes to the Fantasy Fantasy rules, in order to give those who fall behind early a chance to claw their way back into contention. The relevant one being a points boost for the fanatic who gets the top score in each League each week. I've made an executive decision on those new rules, but I thought I should put some of the other suggestions to a popular vote.


Do you want to receive double points for your Wildcard selection? It would have to be your Wildcard as it would be a complete nightmare for me to allow a captain bonus for a weekly selection of your choice.
As above, this would give you a chance to make up some lost ground but maybe you may feel that it is too powerful. I'll leave it to you to decide.


Do you want some extra transfers? This is pretty easy for me to implement so I'm kappy to allow it.

It doesn't seem to let me select multiple options sorry CM

Yep can only vote for one thing

What’s this for sorry?

Damn it


Another Cookie Monster SNAFU

Could a Mod fix the poll if possible or just nuke the entire thread? I can't seem to edit the poll now. Sorry about this

Def think extra trades would be good

Could do a manual vote?

I like the double wildcard points, but maybe only after half the season is done?

I also like an extra trade to make it 3. Any more might become burdensome for you CM.

No and no for me

Could be persuaded yes for the second - maybe 1 extra, so R6/12/18?

1. yeah, I think double point wildcard would be pretty cool.
2 & 3. yep. three trades, as above, is cool, or four at rounds 5, 10, 15, 20 or some such thing would be cool too? But I agree with Snatch, only an amount that doesn't make it unpleasant for our host.

Hey Cookie, there should be a button for you to delete the whole thread. If not let us know in here and we'll do it for you to start again.

Late night musings

I think if the goal is to give trailing teams more of a chance to catch up, then double points wildcard might not achieve this. If someone at the start of the season gets a few 30s or 32s then even after trades it could be hard for people who have copped some 2s and 4s to catch up. 

Possible alternatives would be being able to change your wildcard every week (too onerous on Cookie), more trades or trade windows, or have specific weeks set in advance that will be double points. 

Or... predetermined weeks for double points in certain leagues, eg R1, L1 has double, R2, L2 etc (or reverse order).

StuDogg101 wrote:Late night musings

I think if the goal is to give trailing teams more of a chance to catch up, then double points wildcard might not achieve this. If someone at the start of the season gets a few 30s or 32s then even after trades it could be hard for people who have copped some 2s and 4s to catch up. 

Possible alternatives would be being able to change your wildcard every week (too onerous on Cookie), more trades or trade windows, or have specific weeks set in advance that will be double points. 

Or... predetermined weeks for double points in certain leagues, eg R1, L1 has double, R2, L2 etc (or reverse order).

It is possible that it could have unexpected results (and make the stronger teams more dominant, but could also create more opportunity for others to catch up with a well timed pick).
I must admit that part of the idea with a kind've Captaincy wildcard was just as a fun notion - picking a forum member that you're prepared to back to gun it.

I did see this as working best if in conjunction with more a few more trade weeks. e.g. if there were say 4 or 5 trade weeks, then that gives you potentially 5 or 6 different Captains you could have across the year.

If Player 1 starts out strong with a high performing Captain, they naturally will be hesitant to change, but that creates opportunity for others to take more risk.

Teams often go through cycles across the fantasy years, those that start strong in the first month may have traded heavier and tail off later (I'd be surprised if many top 100 teams in the first month end up in the top 100 come year end for example).
There's players that strategise harder for the bye period, and then there's the home stretch - do you go with someone safe doing well, or someone that has more recent momentum.

I now see the merit in the captain, but yeah, would have to be done with more trades. Which then comes down to if Cookie can be bothered running 4 or 5 trade weeks.

Also a trade should be allowed where you move someone already in your squad to WC slot e.g. I replace my WC with a L2 player, but want to move the L2 player I already have into the WC slot for captaincy reasons.

Then again, if we're truly looking for the best fantasy fantasy player, shouldn't we leave it as is? Camo dominated last year, and would have been disappointing if he lost due to one or two rounds of the wrong captaincy wildcard.

robelgordo wrote:I now see the merit in the captain, but yeah, would have to be done with more trades. Which then comes down to if Cookie can be bothered running 4 or 5 trade weeks.

Also a trade should be allowed where you move someone already in your squad to WC slot e.g. I replace my WC with a L2 player, but want to move the L2 player I already have into the WC slot for captaincy reasons.

Yeah, that's exactly how I imagined it could be used.

- At trade time you can re-select your wildcard from all your existing players.

ex1: WC is from L4, You swap them with your other L4 player in the same league as them without costing a trade.

ex2: You sub the WC out for an existing player in your team from another league e.g. L7 (you then need to sub in a new player into the vacated spot in league L7).

ex3: Standard trade League 9 for League 9 player (no change in WC), or WC for entirely new WC.

PS> Are you the Dolphin?

Snatchpato wrote:Then again, if we're truly looking for the best fantasy fantasy player, shouldn't we leave it as is? Camo dominated last year, and would have been disappointing if he lost due to one or two rounds of the wrong captaincy wildcard.

It's not NRL if you don't keep changing the rules

It's not NRL fantasy if you don't keep changing the scoring structure

It's not NRL fantasy fantasy if ummmm.... we keep letting Camo win everything

My thoughts from someone that was a rookie to this last year:

Keen for the trades to increase (I voted 3 more) but I'm a no for the double points.

Also really like the points boost for the top in each league, I think between that and the more trades (plus whatever other ET suggestions that Cookie has already decided to implement) imo that is probably enough changes and then could always reassess the double points one next year

I think 1 extra trade and keep WC no double

Happy with the extra points for 1st in league