NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 5 - RIP Shane Warne

Rabbits21 wrote:
You’re missing the point he’s starting on edge then moving to middle. His PPM will go up in the middle. His JS is very safe also. Whilst Uto could get 55-60mins some weeks we don’t know what Madge will do if they’re getting pumped he may not wanna burn Uto out and pulls him off it wouldn’t shock me if Madge did this.

Arrow played around 54mins in CS and scored 49. I can see him getting closer to 60 mins tbh. Maybe not quite as much upside as Uto but he has DPP and is a safer option.

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Rabbits21 wrote:
You’re missing the point he’s starting on edge then moving to middle. His PPM will go up in the middle. His JS is very safe also. Whilst Uto could get 55-60mins some weeks we don’t know what Madge will do if they’re getting pumped he may not wanna burn Uto out and pulls him off it wouldn’t shock me if Madge did this.

Arrow played around 54mins in CS and scored 49. I can see him getting closer to 60 mins tbh. Maybe not quite as much upside as Uto but he has DPP and is a safer option.

No I covered that ..... Given the low minutes, he is clearly spending time in the MID while starting at EDG in these games.

A fit guy like Arrow isn't averaging 54 minutes at EDG without spending time in the middle.

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mattnz wrote:
You are looking at his games in the middle. He is playing EDG.

At EDG, average 54 minutes for 40 points, priced at 44.

Given the low minutes, he is clearly spending time in the MID while starting at EDG in these games.

Even in games 65+ minutes at EDG, average 45.

You can’t assert this (assumption) as if it’s a statistic.

I included both EDG/MID games in the stats I provided because he’ll be playing both. The EDG games you reference are a total of 7 games - down to 4 games (AVG 46) if you filter for > 50 minutes.

With that said, and the assumption he’s moving into the middle, we need to consider his MID PPM (approx 0.86 for 2019/2020 - I’m ignoring 2 games at 1.07 in 2021 as small sample) as well as his EDG (0.75) which averages to about 0.81 - Now I look closer, it’s a bit under the 0.85 I used before, so 49 pts.

With all this said, it’s fully dependent on his role at the club. If Rabbits is right and he plays half and half EDG/MID, he should have some decent value, good DPP, Job security etc.

Not a phenomenal buy, but a safe one that you can hold all year (pending that role of course).

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Did Max King play internationally most recent trial for the Dogs. If so did anyone notice how he went?

Assuming there’s a typo in there, but Max King passes the eye test big time.

Very busy player, seems to go looking for the ball, solid in defence. Appears to be trying to play himself into a top 17 spot.

Of course a couple of games is a limited sample, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him starting by seasons end.

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Did Max King play internationally most recent trial for the Dogs. If so did anyone notice how he went?

Been battling injury last 2 years, finally healthy this year and was the standout in trials. Would say he definitely has a bench spot

I promise im not sexist or anything... but ffs i go onto the nrl app to see if theres any nrl news and its just pages and pages of the womens GAME which i couldnt care less about tbh. there needs to be a seperate website and app for wnrl.

Edit: was called sexist anyway.

Snatchpato wrote:
You can’t assert this (assumption) as if it’s a statistic.

I included both EDG/MID games in the stats I provided because he’ll be playing both. The EDG games you reference are a total of 7 games - down to 4 games (AVG 46) if you filter for > 50 minutes.

With that said, and the assumption he’s moving into the middle, we need to consider his MID PPM (approx 0.86 for 2019/2020 - I’m ignoring 2 games at 1.07 in 2021 as small sample) as well as his EDG (0.75) which averages to about 0.81 - Now I look closer, it’s a bit under the 0.85 I used before, so 49 pts.

With all this said, it’s fully dependent on his role at the club. If Rabbits is right and he plays half and half EDG/MID, he should have some decent value, good DPP, Job security etc.

Not a phenomenal buy, but a safe one that you can hold all year (pending that role of course).

Will probably play origin if he’s out of the doghouse. Plays big minutes in the middle and gets banged up by the blue’s big boppers so potentially eased back in at clubland.

King Assassin wrote:I promise im not sexist or anything...
the womens shit

Cut from the same cloth as "I'm not racist but..."

Snatchpato wrote:
You can’t assert this (assumption) as if it’s a statistic.

I included both EDG/MID games in the stats I provided because he’ll be playing both. The EDG games you reference are a total of 7 games - down to 4 games (AVG 46) if you filter for > 50 minutes.

With that said, and the assumption he’s moving into the middle, we need to consider his MID PPM (approx 0.86 for 2019/2020 - I’m ignoring 2 games at 1.07 in 2021 as small sample) as well as his EDG (0.75) which averages to about 0.81 - Now I look closer, it’s a bit under the 0.85 I used before, so 49 pts.

With all this said, it’s fully dependent on his role at the club. If Rabbits is right and he plays half and half EDG/MID, he should have some decent value, good DPP, Job security etc.

Not a phenomenal buy, but a safe one that you can hold all year (pending that role of course).

Looking at the rotations, it seems that Sua or Host were coming off the bench and onto the EDG, with him moving to the MID in most of these games.
R15 Host 63 minutes off the bench.
R16 Host 49 minutes off the bench
R21 Sua 49 minutes off the bench
R22 Host 60 minutes off the bench
R24 Host 43 minutes off the bench

King Assassin wrote:I promise im not sexist or anything... but ffs i go onto the nrl app to see if theres any nrl news and its just pages and pages of the womens shit which i couldnt care less about tbh. there needs to be a seperate website and app for wnrl.

News > browse topics > NRL news

Actually very easy to find. Arguably easier than typing out a definitely not at all sexist comment about how you hate the womens shit (which only goes for like 6 weeks)

What confuses me about Arrow is why he doesnt play bigger mins if hes spending the first 25 mins on an edge. He used to pump out huge mins at lock for the Titans. Maybe injuries have aged him a bit too much.

He was always the "next Parker" at the Broncos. Was an 80 min lock in q cup. Yes that is a while ago now.

Sort of expected him to be a Tohu Harris type of output by now

I have to admit ive not watched him closely since the Titans days

Maybe he will benefit from the six again change

mattnz wrote:

Looking at the rotations, it seems that Sua or Host were coming off the bench and onto the EDG, with him moving to the MID in most of these games.
R15 Host 63 minutes off the bench.
R16 Host 49 minutes off the bench
R21 Sua 49 minutes off the bench
R22 Host 60 minutes off the bench
R24 Host 43 minutes off the bench

With the big money we are paying Arrow he’s had a year to settle in and Su’a was a bit of an intimidator for us now we’ve lost that it’s probs Arrow’s job. I think we would be mad to not play Arrow for big mins.

my tv broke wrote:What confuses me about Arrow is why he doesnt play bigger mins if hes spending the first 25 mins on an edge. He used to pump out huge mins at lock for the Titans. Maybe injuries have aged him a bit too much.

He was always the "next Parker" at the Broncos. Was an 80 min lock in q cup. Yes that is a while ago now.

Sort of expected him to be a Tohu Harris by now

I think he’s gonna have a massive season mate. Just a feeling I have.

Rabbits21 wrote:
I think he’s gonna have a massive season mate. Just a feeling I have.

Hope so. Hes in the mix for me. Gut feel as well

my tv broke wrote:

Hope so. Hes in the mix for me. Gut feel as well

Like I wanna take one of Arrow or Lolo but I can’t find the funds for Lolo and Arrow is 66k cheaper and has that DPP.

That’s why I want Eli Katoa this year too gut feel. I need to back myself rather than go against it even though that’ll be hard. If I end up being wrong so be it.

I think Coates has a big first 2 rounds too and will go big against Tigers and Souths but could be some low scores to follow. Still torn whether I got Coates or Pereira. If Rob Jennings gets that wing spot he’s one for the EMG’s I think.

Rabbits21 wrote:
With the big money we are paying Arrow he’s had a year to settle in and Su’a was a bit of an intimidator for us now we’ve lost that it’s probs Arrow’s job. I think we would be mad to not play Arrow for big mins.

Koala plays 80 every week and they have an 80 minute hooker. They have interchanges to burn.

When Arrow has played big minutes on the EDG with time in MID he still hasn't scored any better than his average.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Like I wanna take one of Arrow or Lolo but I can’t find the funds for Lolo and Arrow is 66k cheaper and has that DPP.

That’s why I want Eli Katoa this year too gut feel. I need to back myself rather than go against it even though that’ll be hard. If I end up being wrong so be it.

I think Coates has a big first 2 rounds too and will go big against Tigers and Souths but could be some low scores to follow. Still torn whether I got Coates or Pereira. If Rob Jennings gets that wing spot he’s one for the EMG’s I think.

Its $66k for an extra 10-15 points per week. Hard to turn that down, especially when Lolo is a keeper you don't need to trade out.
Arrow 45 (min/expected) to 50 (best ever scoring)
Lolo 55 (min not playing injured) to 65 (back to his best)

Lchy wrote:

News > browse topics > NRL news

Actually very easy to find. Arguably easier than typing out a definitely not at all sexist comment about how you hate the womens shit (which only goes for like 6 weeks)

Sorry for thumbs down dude- fat fingers error.

mattnz wrote:

Koala plays 80 every week and they have an 80 minute hooker. They have interchanges to burn.

When Arrow has played big minutes on the EDG with time in MID he still hasn't scored any better than his average.

Some talk Cook won’t play 80mins regularly this year.