NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 5 - RIP Shane Warne

Chewie wrote:

yeah, I'm planning to pick him up for round 2 for cover.

Why not start him and save the trade. Or do you need to see if he makes it back into the squad.

Chewie wrote:

yeah, I'm planning to pick him up for round 2 for cover.

So you’d use a trade on him or you’ll just pick him round 1 regardless?

If Cleary plays round 1 I may still get Grant.

Another thing is, is anyone keeping an eye on how many origin players is too many? Or just who cares to start with and trade a couple of them out over origin?

Also I may still get back on Uto. Surely he plays 55-60mins Madge cant be that stupid to not play him big mins with his job on the line......

Rabbits21 wrote:
Mate that’s a gun team right there amazing wow.

Does the fact Stone or Rein could be on the bench not concern you that Mahoney might not get 80mins?

Thanks mate. Relies on way too much going right on TLT though.

If Stone or Rein are on the bench come TLT I'll be going without hooker cover, probably swap Katoa for Amone or something and grab D.Fifi. I am in the same boat as Rhino re: lack of options at base price and probably need to sacrifice somewhere. Are you still off Paulo? He has a very handy centre/wfb DPP and I wouldn't mind having him and XCoates in my EMGs for playable backline cover

ytsb wrote:

Thanks mate. Relies on way too much going right on TLT though.

If Stone or Rein are on the bench come TLT I'll be going without hooker cover, probably swap Katoa for Amone or something and grab D.Fifi

I mean yeah you could go without hooker cover for round 1 and hope someone pops up around round 3 that’d be a very bold gutsy move though.

I thought you’d be keen on Teddy to start with your thoughts on him mate? Your draw is very good the first 10 rounds,

Pre TLT team:

5 x 0-300k
8 x 300k-400k
4 x 400k-600k
3 x 600k-800k
1 x 800k+

*players priced at exactly 300k, 400k, 600k, or 800k are included in the lower price range

rhinoceroo wrote:). Will eg Penisini make more money than Vailea? Probably. Will Nanai make more than AFifita? Coates more than Russell?

Will any of them make enough money to be useful?
Also Penisini has to average 9 points a game more than Vailea to make the same amount of cash. How sure are you that is going to happen (lets assume for the sake of argument that Vailea actually plays)

I hope so, but wouldn't be sure of it.

Also pick 4 players who are $350 instead of $240 and that is $440k you are looking at. Means the 5th player can be someone actually good

I think I'll have at least 2 and up to 4 $240k players.
Schneider, Fifita and whichever 2 look best out of the ones remaining. Play Schneider and the rest in 18-21.

Rabbits21 wrote:
So you’d use a trade on him or you’ll just pick him round 1 regardless?

If Cleary plays round 1 I may still get Grant.

Another thing is, is anyone keeping an eye on how many origin players is too many? Or just who cares to start with and trade a couple of them out over origin?

Also I may still get back on Uto. Surely he plays 55-60mins Madge cant be that stupid to not play him big mins with his job on the line......

Origin is a problem. Fact is almost all the megaguns are going to play it, or have a chance of it if there are injuries and/or they're displaying the sort of form you want.

Miss the days when you could be smart and pick up Mannering and Surgess and RTS and JGraham and SJ safe in the knowledge they'd be gold during the byes.

If you're really thinking about it I suppose it brings iPap and Hughes and even AFB or DBrown into play, as well as Tohu when he returns.

Rabbits21 wrote:
I mean yeah you could go without hooker cover for round 1 and hope someone pops up around round 3 that’d be a very bold gutsy move though.

I thought you’d be keen on Teddy to start with your thoughts on him mate? Your draw is very good the first 10 rounds,

I haven't calculated the numbers exactly but I reckon he loses an average of around 8 points a game just due to the TB nerf. Do I think he scores more tries this year though? Yes. I had him in my OG team when I was hellbent on not going Cleary and having CM13 as captain instead. First year ever I haven't started with him.

I wasn't going to play at all this year but IRL mates were pushing for a comp again this year. So tempted to just put together a semi-decent team that prioritises marquee players that are fun to watch.

ytsb wrote:

Thanks mate. Relies on way too much going right on TLT though.

If Stone or Rein are on the bench come TLT I'll be going without hooker cover,

FYI Mahoney averaged 78 minutes with Ray Stone in the team last year. 70 when Stone wasn't there.

Primary reason for this was because the game where he got injured and only played 34 minutes was a game when Stone didn't play.

Rabbits21 wrote:
So you’d use a trade on him or you’ll just pick him round 1 regardless?

If Cleary plays round 1 I may still get Grant.

Another thing is, is anyone keeping an eye on how many origin players is too many? Or just who cares to start with and trade a couple of them out over origin?

Also I may still get back on Uto. Surely he plays 55-60mins Madge cant be that stupid to not play him big mins with his job on the line......

I use a trade on him after round 1, I don't mind double trading in the early rounds to get the team sorted.

I'm not worried about origin and the byes yet, I currently have 8 who play the first bye, I'll fix that up closer to date.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Also I may still get back on Uto. Surely he plays 55-60mins Madge cant be that stupid to not play him big mins with his job on the line......

Assuming that NRL coaches will give big minutes to your fantasy players is something fraught with danger.

Does Taupau minute-watch become Uto-watch this year?

Milchcow wrote:

Will any of them make enough money to be useful?
Also Penisini has to average 9 points a game more than Vailea to make the same amount of cash. How sure are you that is going to happen (lets assume for the sake of argument that Vailea actually plays)

I hope so, but wouldn't be sure of it.

Also pick 4 players who are $350 instead of $240 and that is $440k you are looking at. Means the 5th player can be someone actually good

I think I'll have at least 2 and up to 4 $240k players.
Schneider, Fifita and whichever 2 look best out of the ones remaining.  Play Schneider and the rest in 18-21.

I do still have two 240k players. I'll probably end up rolling with 3. But I've seen teams posted around with 5 or 6 to shoehorn in that extra gun and long-term it doesn't seem worth it given the inventory we have.

Current 18-21 is SCrichton, Ilias, Schneider, King. A lot will be playing two or three of those in 17 every week (realistically SCritta would be playing a lot for me too as sole WFB/CTR cover). Not confident of Schneider or Ilias's scoring, but am confident they'll make coin.

Milchcow wrote:

Assuming that NRL coaches will give big minutes to your fantasy players is something fraught with danger.

Does Taupau minute-watch become Uto-watch this year?

Uto has a very good motor on him though and he did play big minutes in the last 8 games or so last year. So I don’t see why that wouldn’t continue.

They do look better when he’s on field too.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I do still have two 240k players. I'll probably end up rolling with 3. But I've seen teams posted around with 5 or 6 to shoehorn in that extra gun and long-term it doesn't seem worth it given the inventory we have.

Current 18-21 is SCrichton, Ilias, Schneider, King. A lot will be playing two or three of those in 17 every week (realistically SCritta would be playing a lot for me too as sole WFB/CTR cover). Not confident of Schneider or Ilias's scoring, but am confident they'll make coin.

No Andrew Fifita?

Rabbits21 wrote:
I mean yeah you could go without hooker cover for round 1 and hope someone pops up around round 3 that’d be a very bold gutsy move though.

I thought you’d be keen on Teddy to start with your thoughts on him mate? Your draw is very good the first 10 rounds,

Been looking at ways to get in Ted and Angus and Momi (if kicking) because the Roosters could be full of points the first few months. However, those attacking points could be shared around (Keary, Walker, Manu) with no one player going Turbo-ballistic just fairly high scores across the board.

*If* Momi kicks there's 8-10 points of simple, predictable value there though.

Milchcow wrote:

FYI Mahoney averaged 78 minutes with Ray Stone in the team last year. 70 when Stone wasn't there.

Primary reason for this was because the game where he got injured and only played 34 minutes was a game when Stone didn't play.

Reckon I'll be running Mahoney or Cook but veering towards Cook. A lot depends on TLT - if Mamazoulas is on the bench that's a line through Cook, if Rein or WSmith on bench that strikes Mahoney. (Not bothered about Stone or Havilii). If Eels and Souths both have hookers on bench I rip up my team...

Rabbits21 wrote:
Uto has a very good motor on him though and he did play big minutes in the last 8 games or so last year. So I don’t see why that wouldn’t continue.

They do look better when he’s on field too.

This is exactly how Taupau minutes watch started.

He finished 2019 with a run of bigger minute games (46 minutes first half of the year, 53 minutes 2nd half).

So in 2020 the obvious result was going to be increased minutes. And indeed, by the start of round 17, 2020 Taupau had played over 50 minutes once that year

Also remember that just 2 weeks ago you had gone completely off Utoikamanu because he didn't do much in the first trial.
and if Alex Twal was cheaper in fantasy, I daresay the more prevailing wisdom on this forum would be that he should be the one playing big minutes (as was the case 12 months ago)

rhinoceroo wrote:

Been looking at ways to get in Ted and Angus and Momi (if kicking) because the Roosters could be full of points the first few months. However, those attacking points could be shared around (Keary, Walker, Manu) with no one player going Turbo-ballistic just fairly high scores across the board.

*If* Momi kicks there's 8-10 points of simple, predictable value there though.

If Keighran isn't around, looks like Momo will be the kicker (apparently he and Keighran were the 2 practicing kicks before the trial last week)

rhinoceroo wrote:

Reckon I'll be running Mahoney or Cook but veering towards Cook. A lot depends on TLT - if Mamazoulas is on the bench that's a line through Cook, if Rein or WSmith on bench that strikes Mahoney. (Not bothered about Stone or Havilii). If Eels and Souths both have hookers on bench I rip up my team...

Sounds like we are pretty well on the same page. Have you considered sacrificing Cleary for DCE? I’ll be doing this if it’s justified when I finally settle on a team with him in.

Rabbits21 wrote:
No Andrew Fifita?

Yeah, he's a maybe if there's nobody else. When McInnis back there's not much there for him (Rudolf/Finucane/McInnis/Tolman/BHU/Fifita/Hunt/Williams), plus his injury record isn't exactly great.