NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 9.1562 - Tago Tuesday

ytsb wrote:

I think you're reading too much into it. I think we're just sick to death of people coming on the forum with an "I told you so" attitude, despite owning the very same player they are "I told you soing" us about. Get a grip mate, whether you thought Ilias was a bad idea before last night or not, you still bought him. Same outcome.

Shut up.

Exact same attitude as my mates who "almost bought Ethereum at $100 a coin" but didn't.

Point demonstrated explicitly in your response. Mods if I have done anything wrong - then point it out.

All this over saying I wish I had not have picked Ilias. I am certainly not the one who needs to get a grip and there have been plenty who have left the forum for these very reasons. I never said anyone was inferior. That is entirely a construct of your own

Khany wrote:Unclear what mbye's role.

Clear role for many years now I thought. Bystander.

Lemmy KGB wrote:

I prefer yours now.

The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:I know it’s very tempting but i can sell Turbo for Paps and Haas. Damn it!

Any trade that gets you a 22nd player is worth it

Aardvark wrote:

So droll…do better. If you didn’t want him in your team why is he there? He is there because you made a decision. Like a lot of other people, myself included, you used him as a facilitator…..I didn’t particularly want him either but choose him over other less appealing options because he appears to have security in a position that traditionally scores better than WFB/CTR. That was my decision….not anyone else’s.

Edit - I didn’t imply you were apologising, I implied you were being disingenuous (or self delusional, take your pick)

I also would have preferred to have DCE instead of Ilias

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

I think I am copping it because of GROUPTHINK SYMPTOM # 4 mate

Although I am sure that pointing it out won't make it stop - we can only live in hope

https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newLDR_82.htm

Stereotyping:
As the group becomes more uniform in their views, they begin to see outsiders as possessing a different and inferior set of morals and characteristics from themselves. These perceived negative characteristics are then used to discredit the opposition.
"Lawyers will find any excuse to argue, even when the facts are clearly against them."

Many things spring to mind here.

Quit whilst your ahead.

Better get a lawyer son, better get a real good one.

Quoting the above makes it even worse, this is not even happening here in this case. Cajoles, conviction, like a deed of title = ownership.

It's definitely a trait, a personality type, as it literally never enters my mind, to think I made this choice because of all this chatter or strong opinion in way or the other. When u select the player in the app with ur hands, and sit back with ur choices made, boom, like magic, that's on you !

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Point demonstrated explicitly in your response. Mods if I have done anything wrong - then point it out.

All this over saying I wish I had not have picked Ilias. I am certainly not the one who needs to get a grip and there have been plenty who have left the forum for these very reasons

It's just a pointless exercise. Don't take it personally. Ilias was a no brainer to start off the season, that's why he is the second most popular fantasy player. Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian with the benefit of hindsight is just silly. It would be different if you were basing your thoughts on Ilias on concrete evidence other than "I am quite sure that Ilias is in my team because I was not on top of my capacity to group think" and "Ilias was a bad call and it was taboo to question it"

If you said "ilias was a bad call because of X Y Z" it would be completely different. Your input to the forum is valued by me, but you can't blame the forum for having a dig at you when you are being a tosser.

Revraiser wrote:

Many things spring to mind here.

Quit whilst your ahead.

Better get a lawyer son, better get a real good one.

Quoting the above makes it even worse, this is not even happening here in this case. Cajoles, conviction, like a deed of title = ownership.

It's definitely a trait, a personality type, as it literally never enters my mind, to think I made this choice because of all this chatter or strong opinion in way or the other. When u select the player in the app with ur hands, and sit back with ur choices made, boom, like magic, that's on you !

And your point is??? - when did I blame anyone else??? That seems to be what people are upset about - did not happen!

If what you say is true, then the strong group think right here this morning that u are out of line, will overtake ur current thoughts and u will relent. Just giveup, don't be taboo, be as one Zen tank group think horde and enjoy the Saturday!!

Going cold on Fermor, only 1 outside back injury/hia and he becomes a ctr

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

And you point is - when did I blame anyone else??? That seems to be what people are upset about - did not happen!

Apology accepted, that's the spirit.

Now, will T Roberts be named in the 13 next week and is Metcalf the eventual 6 at the Sharks.

Leettttsssgggggooooo !

Waiting for rugby league matches so I can see how my all of my fantasy picks go is painfully slow. C'mon 3 o'clock.

When you start claiming groupthink as a reason/catalyst for your choices, you are blaming others no matter how insidiously passive you try to present it.

When you say presenting contrary thought is taboo, again it's just a diversion from your ownership of events.

There's very little fantasy opinion on here that is taboo. Mattnz is frequently contrarion and if anything is encouraged to present his ideas. Just because a collective of individuals disagree with your view on something, it doesn't make it suddenly some conspiratorial groupthink.

Anyway this getting real boring

Ilias enabled me to have Haas, Cook and David Fafita, Captained Cook instead of Haas(lesson learnt ) played Ilias hoping he might jag a try, get a try assist or two but Bunnies were bog average, I just hope one of the King boys shows something which will allow me to restructure my squad with confidence, its only 3 games into round 1 no panic required yet.

Revraiser wrote:If what you say is true, then the strong group think right here this morning that u are out of line, will overtake ur current thoughts and u will relent. Just giveup, don't be taboo, be as one Zen tank group think  horde  and enjoy the Saturday!!

easytiger wrote:When you start claiming groupthink as a reason/catalyst for your choices, you are blaming others no matter how insidiously passive you try to present it.

When you say presenting contrary thought is taboo, again it's just a diversion from your ownership of events.

There's very little fantasy opinion on here that is taboo. Mattnz is frequently contrarion and if anything is encouraged to present his ideas. Just because a collective of individuals disagree with your view on something, it doesn't make it suddenly some conspiratorial groupthink.

Anyway this getting real boring

Fucking hell you're smart

Khany wrote:Going cold on Fermor, only 1 outside back injury/hia and he becomes a ctr

Yeah, that was the thing that swayed me ultimately away from him - he's just too much a fixit for that backline.

Also suspect he's a slow gain to an awkward average - not a bad selection (has been in and out of my team all preseason), but would be amazed if he ends up being a great one.

easytiger wrote:When you start claiming groupthink as a reason/catalyst for your choices, you are blaming others no matter how insidiously passive you try to present it.

This.

Moderators don't need to moderate it either because anyone blaming group think for their own actions gets widely panned without our help. It may have been inadvertent so, benefit of the doubt and all that. Let's all move on hey?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Any trade that gets you a 22nd player is worth it

What?

easytiger wrote:When you start claiming groupthink as a reason/catalyst for your choices, you are blaming others no matter how insidiously passive you try to present it.

When you say presenting contrary thought is taboo, again it's just a diversion from your ownership of events.

There's very little fantasy opinion on here that is taboo. Mattnz is frequently contrarion and if anything is encouraged to present his ideas. Just because a collective of individuals disagree with your view on something, it doesn't make it suddenly some conspiratorial groupthink.

Anyway this getting real boring

I think this is a good safe place to present your logic on why you think a player is a good pick, and equally it is encouraged to provide counter-points for an opposing view.

Its good to be able to see both sides, presenting the pros and cons of players, then making an informed decision for your own team, based on your own perspective of what has been put forward.

In Ilias case, I and others put forward the reasons we didnt think he was a good selection choice, others presented reasons why they thought he was a low risk pick at $300k for a half with decent job security.

In my own team, when I ended up with $300k spare and 1 player to select, he was often the one that I selected, when compared with others available at that price point. I ended up taking the gamble on Walters instead. We'll see how that ends up.