Rd 4 discussion

867 last week. Hurt by playing Bullemor over Thompson, but generally not too bad.

$194k in the bank


To get Cleary would need to be something like Lolo + Teddy out

Think we might be better off setting up some cash and going next week.

Bullemor probably the most urgent trade out, but not sure who best target is. Bullemor to cheapie alone might not give us good Cleary funds

You could burn Bully for Brodie Jones who should get 40s for 5-6 weeks.

Cleary can wait 1 week and then decide which titans to lose (or Burton) after watching 1 more round.

I would keep Teddy.

I am not sold on Lolo, Clark or Sexton

3 guys that stick out to me are Clark, Lolo & Bullemor

Realistic possible decent cows are TMay, Jones, Patolo (possible EDG with JHetherington out)

Clark 455k
Bullemor 354k
Bank 194k
Lolo 602k (may drop a bit)
Total 1605k

Cleary 1050k (likely to drop a bit by next week)
Jones 325k
Patolo 284k
Total 1659k

Carrying AFifi and Ilias as effectively dead cash at the moment means the squad needs cash gen for the medium term. Taylan May's last score means he's likelier to get fast cash than Brodie Jones, so if making one trade would go Bullemor to him.

Trading out Lolo to a non-FRF would mean having to start two bench props every week, so that's a no-no. Wouldn't be averse to trading Clark to BJones.

About 350k bank after that? Enough to single trade Difi to Cleary next week, or work out a double trade with a couple of the others.

Bully to Jones bank the 2nd

Want to get rid of Lolo and Bullemor but that leaves us with very weak MIDs (Mann, MKing, Thompson, AFifi)and we'd likely use the cash for Cleary so I think we need a plan around what MIDs we are targeting and when if we want to get rid of Lolo (which I think we do). Ideally it would be a good cashie as Cleary + MID gun is a lot of cash we don't have.

Jones is the only obvious trade in.

Don't hate Clark, D.Fifita or Tedesco as other tradeout choices to free up funds if we go tearing our team apart (mainly the last 2).

Cap'n Ranta wrote:Want to get rid of Lolo and Bullemor but that leaves us with very weak MIDs (Mann, MKing, Thompson, AFifi)and we'd likely use the cash for Cleary so I think we need a plan around what MIDs we are targeting and when if we want to get rid of Lolo (which I think we do). Ideally it would be a good cashie as Cleary + MID gun is a lot of cash we don't have.

Jones is the only obvious trade in.

Don't hate Clark, D.Fifita or Tedesco as other tradeout choices to free up funds if we go tearing our team apart (mainly the last 2).

I think trading out Lolo with the team composition as it is is an absolutely terrible idea. We'd have two positions taken up by 30-minute players and be one injury/covid hit away from having to play a 20-minute player as well. There'd be an argument for trading him if we were stronger in the MIDs but we're not.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I think trading out Lolo with the team composition as it is is an absolutely terrible idea. We'd have two positions taken up by 30-minute players and be one injury/covid hit away from having to play a 20-minute player as well. There'd be an argument for trading him if we were stronger in the MIDs but we're not.

Yeah - wrote this way too quickly and probably could have worded it better.

What I meant was on an individual name value Lolo and Bully is who I'd want to get rid of but definitely agree it just leaves us with some real MID headaches and that's why I wanted to prompt discussion around other MIDs worth looking at.

I just think for 600k scoring low 40s isn't a productive use of the money and I'd rather start planning how we can move him on rather than ignoring him just because the team feels better with him. In 3 weeks at a 40/45 average he'll be 539/561k. Not a crisis but hardly ideal. This week if we played Thompson we'd actually have gained 1 point (but this was a low for Lolo and a high for Thompson so admittedly is probably a best case).

So while I agree it feels bad that we'd be playing two 30 minute bench forwards I think this needs to be considered as the cash freed up will be better elsewhere. 100% we need a plan for a MID soon after though. That's not sustainable.

*Also I meant get rid of Clark before DFifita or Tedesco but I was okay losing them to help fund Cleary or maybe a shiny new MID.


Bullemor to Jones seems sensible.


Potential MID options now/soon with my favourites

Curran (749k - 1st bye round keeper)
Papali'i (806k - keeper)
Murray (812k - keeper)
Haas (851k - keeper)
Mann (529k - probably not 100k left in him unless we get another big game or a 52+ avg - not unrealistic but risky)
Musgrove (333k - with 40 minutes could see 10 point upside with Uto out)
Arrow (622k - almost fairly priced though unless we think he can go 55+ avg.)
B. Smith (57 BE and will be 594k with a 50 this week)
A. Crichton (3 weeks from bottoming with a 50 avg @ 610k)
McInnes (2 weeks from bottoming with a 55 avg @ 628k)
JTB (in reserves this week - could be back soon and was looking okay as a cash cow @379k)
Ryan James (412k - starting Broncos prop has value if 45+ mins)
Cotter/Gilbert (528/536k - big minutes for younger lolo teammates could have 100k value)

There's 223k left after Bully to BroJo so almost anyone (Haas) on this list is a straight swap for Lolo. Know everyone wants some Cleary action though so maybe that's something we need to check. We can't get a keeper if we want Cleary next week (or likely the week after)

Some potential options include:

Bully to BroJo
Lolo to Curran
(76k ITB)
No path to Cleary next week

or

Bully to BroJo
Lolo to Musgrove
(492k ITB)
Leave lots of option for getting Cleary next week

or

Bully to BroJo
Lolo to Mann/Cotter/Gilbert
(~289k ITB)
DFifi or another double trade is needed to get Cleary.

Anyone see any other MID options I missed?

I'd rather Papali'i or NMurray than Curran, who ay not be a keeper when Tohu returns.

Bullemor to Jones is OK for points and cash gen, but doesn't help with a Cleary bank

I think Tedesco out is probably our best path to Cleary - although it may mean losing Burton or Sexton too

Agree that Lolo to Cleary kills team structure and shouldn't be a factor

I'd add Lodge to the MIDs to keep an eye on. Not for this week, but could be a decent 50+ scorer up to Rnd 13 of he shows form, and underpriced due to his illness game.

Angus could become very juicy when he regains his starting spot.

Just Bully to Jones for me.  Trade makes sense - no need to force a second one this week.

Bully to Jones for me too. Wait a week for any further moves unless late notice changes force us.

schnieder into halves, burton centre, scrit wfb and bring in tuilagi for ted

bully to anyone cheap. I'm not sold on jones but maybe may