NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 36 - Battle of Hastings...Jazz vs Cheese

Boozecluez wrote:Haha based on that reaction to my suggestion there aren't any fans

Lets be honest the only reason people are trading in hastings, talakai or Tevaga is because of Mat

I think trading in Talakai this week is rather silly. If you got him already then well done, but missed the boat I reckon.

Hastings and Tevaga are worthy considerations this week, probably my trade ins. Nothing to do with Matt, I usually mock his selections. But all the money being made this year has not been from base price cows, it's been midrange cows, and I think I need a punt to get cash flow going whilst hopefully getting playable scores.

Mulvy wrote:

Yeah, I could use Burton to fund a WFB and play Koula at centre but then I have a weak centre with no back up, instead of a weak WFB3. And as others have pointed out, they are looking at Burton as a buy soon. Might as well keep him in my circumstance. Just need to figure who to play out of Taaffe, Coates, Koula.

I can see Burton having 1 blinder of a game for a 90, just to trap people, can't see him scoring consistently well, week in, week out.
Honestly expect him to be more likely to get dropped, than to score well every week for an extended period as a CTR keeper.
Could even end up with a CTR pairing of Brown and Talakai at some point. Burton certainly isn't demonstrating that kind of scoring.

Boozecluez wrote:Haha based on that reaction to my suggestion there aren't any fans

Lets be honest the only reason people are trading in hastings, talakai or Tevaga is because of Mat

This is also true for those who aren’t trading in those players

Aardvark wrote:

Maybe, maybe not...For what it's worth I have had a good look at those two players and they seem to fit my particular set of circumstances pretty well. The fact that they are flavour of the week is one of the negative factors for me

Hastings....trading out Burton for better or worse and Hastings seems to be doing what Burton was meant to be doing for less (don't necessarily need Burton's CTR cover)

Jazz...tiring of Mann's 30-40 scores (plus now losing $$) and if you filter MIDs available for under $600k, Jazz sticks out

I like to have lots of cover in all positions and these two fit that bill while providing a bit of potential upside

Also voted for a different combination for the community team because these trades don't necessarily suit the setup

Yeah the premos Haas, Murray, Papalii and even Yeo are out of reach. So start looking at guys like JJackson, Crangus, Klemmer, Twal etc. in the 600k+ range. Kinda getting what you pay for, maybe some small upside, maybe hit a purple patch, but if we're ever gonna get those top guys, we need to get a few value picks in the meantime. Hard to go past the guys in the thread title there with Hastings, Jazz and BSmith.

Talakai at +5% ownership crikey. I'm possibly killing myself by not hopping on, but at the same time I think a trade in is only as good as the circumstances it happened in and a nearly 700k centre at this point is suicidal. I think I'll just enjoy watching his real life footy for now

Unrelated note, but anyone got news on Josh Curran? Casualty ward has him as TBA but has there been any speculation about grading?

Boozecluez wrote:This will be my team this week, 284k banked (Will be handy)
Pretty settled with this until the bye, a lot of fun players to watch which is the modus operandi this year
Will see how this translates to fantasy

Starling
Taumalolo Cotter MKing
Wilton Fermor
Cleary (c) Schneider
Talakai Tago
Papenhuyzen Hynes May

Grant
Mahoney
Hastings
Tevaga

Penisini
Koula
Ilias
Lee

The Bludger#2 wrote:
Bloody hell, Booze,
your team is filled with guns and none of the cruds having toi be played in your 17.
I look at my Bludgers and think "we're going OK", until I see your set-up, and with nearly $300k+ ITB!!
No wonder your are killing it.

Booze's team is better than mine, and he certainly has the cash generation going right so I don't really feel like I should criticise.
But he has none of the top 6 forward pack* for the year so I suspect there is better potential out there

Cook
Haas Murray Yeo
iPapalii Curran/Fifita

*Talakai actually outranks Curran/Fifita, but I'm putting him at CTR for these purposes
Curran has a higher average than Fifita, but given his injury, Fifita probably deserves the spot.

Mulvy wrote:

Yeah, I could use Burton to fund a WFB and play Koula at centre but then I have a weak centre with no back up, instead of a weak WFB3. And as others have pointed out, they are looking at Burton as a buy soon. Might as well keep him in my circumstance. Just need to figure who to play out of Taaffe, Coates, Koula.

Coates- tries galore in offing vs Newcastle
Taafe - can’t be as bad as last week + goal kicking
Koula - unknown quantity

mattnz wrote:

Good to see you coming out swinging so I can finally call you on it, rather than the continual not so subtle jabs for weeks on end, both this season and last.

i.e. How did that Lolo to Madden trade work out for you Matt? Just asking "out of interest".

Some decisions will work out, some won't. I am happy to voice an opinion here. Anyone else can assess if they think my thoughts are on the mark or not. I am not making the trades  for anyone, just presenting ideas.

Some will work, some won't, great to have Captain Hindsight on the case in case any of them happen to not go as well as hoped!
In between the duds there may just be the odd gem that others find useful and wouldn't have otherwise been on their radar.

I’ve been wanting to use this gif for so long!

An appropriate use Matt.

Fortitude wrote:

This is also true for those who aren’t trading in those players

I was the upvote, not the downvote lol

filthridden wrote:

Barely been on the forum since last week and wasn't aware everyone else is bringing in the same two I am but no surprise. Thought Jazz might fly under the radar but Curran's injury probably brought more attention to him.

I'm trading out Nanai (seems a popular choice to trade out) and Mann (is anyone else doing the same? Seems like he's peaked with a high BE)

Yepp Mann to Jazz is my trade also. Checking through his scores, he had the one big game where he had the huge break but otherwise he's so risky. Any injury, he's moved about and is their Mr Fixit. I think he's peaked and Jazz has cash to make, just hoping is 150k in time for Rd 14 where he can become Cheese.

mattnz wrote:
I was the upvote, not the downvote lol

Mine was the downvote because it is bollocks

Jack Torrance wrote:

I'll hold my hands up here - maybe I dont know how to 'fantasy' any more. I don't understand the multiple posts of trading him out. EDG is a rough position this year. He plays 13. Perfectly playable imo.

Now he'll score 19 and I'll look silly. I've planted my flag anyway

Edit- re Nanai

It seems this week there are a few guys about the same price who need to be traded in this week for maximum cash gain.

In games where he doesn't score a hattrick his scoring is nothing to write home about, so I don't see the value in holding him just for R13. Get the trade in right and whoever it is will make up more than Nanai's R13 score in the next month.

Have so many options but might opt for Mann + Burton > Teddy + Jazz see how it flies.

Milchcow wrote:

It seems this week there are a few guys about the same price who  need to be traded in this week for maximum cash gain.

In games where he doesn't score a hattrick his scoring is nothing to write home about, so I don't see the value in holding him just for R13. Get the trade in right and whoever it is will make up more than Nanai's R13 score in the next month.

I hear you Milchy

Thats the crux of it. My risk appetite is just maybe lower. I guess I dont want to shuffle mid pricers and hope for 150 at this point of the season. We have a long way to go

I'll have some beers later and might change my mind

Edit, noting that I missed Talalakakakai due to my stubbornness

Do Starling owners see him as a keeper? Still tempted.

Jack Torrance wrote:

Mine was the downvote because it is bollocks

I mean it’s true for me. I’m not buying talakai in particular because I find Matt’s over selling of him kinda annoying. Plus all the extra carry on. Despite the fact he is/was a great pick up, I just don’t want to buy him. Because I’d be happier to see him fail after seeing someone so hot on him.

Probably because I’m a prick. Nothing personal against Matt. It’s a me problem. I try not to overtly chip him for it, just my personal preference.

Milchcow wrote:


Booze's team is better than mine, and he certainly has the cash generation going right so I don't really feel like I should criticise.
But he has none of the top 6 forward pack* for the year so I suspect there is better potential out there

Cook
Haas Murray Yeo
iPapalii Curran/Fifita

*Talakai actually outranks Curran/Fifita, but I'm putting him at CTR for these purposes
Curran has a higher average than Fifita, but given his injury, Fifita probably deserves the spot.

Thankyou, finally some criticism
I happy to receive this, no need for cotton wool
It helps me improve as we all can't all be perfect

Yes I have chosen to go subgun pod my entire team and was waiting to upgrade the front 5 after the first bye
It was a calculated gamble along with my centres after a crap start and if I was going to trade out a couple underperforming guns it would get me 4 playable tier down cash generators with upside with the idea to bring in later

I just looked at the 400-600 priced forwards who would probably play the first bye and were on the up
Then using cows they would be come guns after the this

Not all worked out perfect like Cotter, and I have traded heavy to get this but Mahoney/Fifita/Taumalolo was a rough start
Mahoney became May before he lost cash, and bought Mahoney back at a 100k discount while riding Mays score/$$ up

The point is you can chase and trade in the biggest scorers from the previous round and justify it all you want
But predicting and getting their points/$$$ before that is the game
Otherwise you are forever trading sideways until you fade away in the second half of the season

I chose not to go for a top dollar gun and questionable bottom priced dollar cow each double trade
If I did that I would have 4 guns and 4 red dots with no way out of it until another questionable cow turned up
Its the nature this year unfortunately

Mulvy wrote:

Yeah, I could use Burton to fund a WFB and play Koula at centre but then I have a weak centre with no back up, instead of a weak WFB3. And as others have pointed out, they are looking at Burton as a buy soon. Might as well keep him in my circumstance. Just need to figure who to play out of Taaffe, Coates, Koula.

Any way to have a look (even then you have to choose who to have a look at)? If not i'd probably take a wild punt on Coates

wolfking wrote:Do Starling owners see him as a keeper?  Still tempted.

He's scoring well enough to stay in my team and I imagine if he keeps scoring that well for the year I'll have other more urgent trades.
Can see him being in my team for the final round.

He's still got a little value in him based on how he's going so it's still not a bad call to bring him in as long as you still have the cover in other positions.

wolfking wrote:Do Starling owners see him as a keeper?  Still tempted.

He is a long term hold for me. May not be there for ever but I don’t see a world where I’d need to trade him out at a priority over someone else, pending injuries.

Now that I have him, he is a decent scorer I won’t have to use trades on for a long time